Indeed, the SOA, the offence of rape;
(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis....
Mmmmmmmmmmmm, 54yo MP and ex-minister, with an oddly continental sounding name. Marks out of ten?
Marks out of ten?
I hope it is him, he’s the most odious of them all after BJ.
Do we need to be careful not to get the forum into trouble here?
Not for the MP, but for the victim. It wouldn't be big and it wouldn't be clever.
You're quite right but it is all over the internet.
I don't care which sleazy Tory it is.
Today I would rather that Bojo and his mates were asked to give more detail about .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/02/secrecy-has-harmed-uk-governments-response-to-covid-19-crisis-says-top-scientist
Is it wrong that I’m disappointed that the allegation could mean the end for one of the best Twitter parody accounts?
Is it wrong that I’m disappointed that the allegation could mean the end for one of the best Twitter parody accounts
I hear you, hope not.
Quite happy to be corrected or informed but why was Alex Salmonds name released in the case against him if it is not in the public interest to release the identity of the little tin pot tory racist "alleged" rapist?.
Because there is a difference between leaked and released - although in the Dominic Cummings regime that line is becoming increasingly blurred.
Was Francois ever a minister tho ?
He was a minister for a surprisingly long time, it appears the rise of populism allowed his true colours to come out in recent years however....
Is this just wishful thinking, or do folk on here have more knowledge?
https://twitter.com/markfrancois12/status/1289980586484932608?s=21
https://twitter.com/dzforbes/status/1289993883057782785?s=21
He was a minister for a surprisingly long time
Department for being a ****?
This time we’re the one everyone else is laughing at. It is by pure luck that the US has looked at our efforts to self-destruct and yelled ‘Hold my beer…’ by voting in Trump!
Except they get to reverse their massive racist/xenophobic tantrum after four years. Sure, it will take a bit longer to heal the wounds caused but then.....
If they do turn against Trump in November, it leaves us looking like....tossers.
Is it wrong that I’m disappointed that the allegation could mean the end for one of the best Twitter parody accounts?
No - now when people search for him they get the parody account instead...
Chief Whips have previous...
A senior whip in the government of the former Tory Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath boasted that he helped Westminster politicians at the time avoid being exposed for “scandals involving small boys”.
Tim Fortescue, a whip under Heath between 1970 and 1973, spoke to the BBC for a documentary entitled “Westminster’s Secret Service”, in which he said the Prime Minister’s Chief Whip kept a little black “dirt book” of MPs’ secrets to maintain political control.
^^^^^
You may well think that.....but I couldn't possibly comment.....
Can someone put up a photo of Ian Richardson playing Francis Urquhart and looking 'arch'?
When I read "He was minister for a surprisingly long time" I thought that could well be an actual job. The most illustrious incumbent being Chris Grayling.
The death of John Hume threw an interesting thought experiment into my head. Back in 1998, what would have happened if Tony Blair had crowed "Got Northern Ireland Done" after the GFA? The vast, vast majority of people would have pilloried him.
Now we have an oaf like Joris in number ten crowing about getting Brexit done when it hasn't really happened yet (and is obviously to the detriment of the vast majority of the people he 'represents'). And he won an election by hiding in fridges.
You have to marvel at how far we, as a country, have fallen. It's pathetic.
Imagine how much respect Tony Blair would get if he'd persuaded Bush not to go into Iraq 🤔
pistonbroke
MemberWhen I read “He was minister for a surprisingly long time” I thought that could well be an actual job. The most illustrious incumbent being Chris Grayling.
Along with his colleague Rees-Mogg, minister for a surprisingly long time ago
Just imagine if an aggressive intellectual featherweight like Priti Patel going into the Maze to negotiate with Republicans and Loyalists!
The place would have been on fire within an hour and both sides would probably have joined forces to launch a combined bombing campaign on the mainland...
Yep and this dumbing down of society has happened on our watch...
Yep and this dumbing down of society has happened on our watch…
Meanwhile Joseph, Nikita, Leonid and the rest spin in their graves because Putin has achieved more destabilisation using a few facebook bots and hookers than they managed in 70+ years and billions of roubles.
He just had to wait for the means for the 'great' British public to demonstrate their stupidity came along. To be fair to the Vlad, he has played a blinder.
Thats one way of letting us off the hook dannyh but its still happened on our watch, and doesn't make me feel any better about it.
Along with his colleague Rees-Mogg, minister for a surprisingly long time ago
Splendid, splendid work !
letting us off the hook
Not really.
'We' still had to be thick enough to **** it up.
Edukator is right – naming the guy (I assume it’s a guy) won’t help bring justice.
1. Stuart Hall.
2. The precautionary principle.
Edukator is right – naming the guy (I assume it’s a guy) won’t help bring justice.
Its not about justice its about keeping people safe from those in power
Yep. If I was arrested and accused of rape, I'd be suspended from my work like a shot, not because crime is bad but because I work in a trusted role and it protects the people I work with. MPs come into contact with all sorts of people in all sorts of situations including some pretty vulnerable folks
But at least he didn't do anything really bad, like get a job that Boris wanted to give to Chris Grayling.
Yep. If I was arrested and accused of rape, I’d be suspended from my work like a shot
Must not be 'the right sort of chap' and/or wrong handshake.
At last some good news about Boris, but have to wait till autumn 😭
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53662230
Sorry to change topic, but those that voted Tory im really intrigued how you feel about his "oven ready brexit deal" its starting to look like he hasn't even been to Waitrose to get the ingredients. I struggle to let my hate for him cloud my judgment but the mans a moron offering nothing but slogans woefully out of his depth just like his mate over the pond
^^^
I can't see Spitting Image being its former self.
Although the humour wasn't high-brow, I seriously doubt the 'great' british public have the capacity for it now.
It is also being hidden away and hardly anyone watches stuff like this in real time any more.
Plus, I bet Joris and Cumstains will be giving it the 'I am a good sport' act in public whilst dropping threats behind the scenes.
My abiding hope is that the creators decide they need to come in with a bang to get the interest up, so give the likes of Joris, Randy Andy et al the full treatment - sort of risking it all on the first roll of the dice.
I can’t see Spitting Image being its former self.Although the humour wasn’t high-brow, I seriously doubt the ‘great’ british public have the capacity for it now.
I think satirical comedy has had its day, you genuinely can't tell what is satire and what is just awful truth now. It used to be amusing to paint politicians as mildly bumbling, ineffectual and a bit dim but now they're all catastrophically stupid on a daily basis.
Whereas before at least they had the good sense to just shag someone else's wife or a rentboy and then resign in temporary disgrace now they're sending the entire country to hell. Can't really satirise that.
“oven ready brexit deal” its starting to look like he hasn’t even been to Waitrose to get the ingredients
I think most on this forum are painfully aware he doesn't even know where Waitrose is, let alone which ingredients are required, or how to prepare them, let alone what an actual oven is or where one would locate such a thing or indeed own a pair of gloves to enable easy pain free use of one.
I expect Cummings, on the other hand, does, but doesn't care.
I expect Cummings, on the other hand, does, but doesn’t care.
All that ****er cares about is his payout from his masters when he facilitates their disaster capitalism by forcing a race to the bottom.
Nah... he's not just after money... there's lots that he wants to see burn... some he wants to rebuild based on his own delusional ideas about how things should be... some he just wants rid of... I'm glad I'm not a civil servant during these times... but none of us are likely to be unaffected by the changes destruction he's willing and able to set about making happen... he is literally untouchable right now.
Yep. Satirical comedy has definitely had its day. It was satirical comedy that got us here in the first place, HIGNFY built the careers of BJ and NF and having not relised its brand of comedy was having the opposite effect to what they intended procced to promote JRM as some quirky national trasure.
Every time Hislop had a dig, Farage would self depreciatingly throw his head back with laughter, all the while counting the wheelbarrow loads of votes that accompanied each barb hurled in his direction.
This has become the defacto mode of response for any budding political villan or would be demagogue. All you have to do to defeat satire is to be beyond satire.
New planning rules - do whatever the hell you want. His developer buddies must be rubbing their hands with glee.
I can see spitting image working.
Picture borris as a the cowardly lion, making a patriotic speech someone in the audience says something and he runs away and hides. Pan out to cummings/volamort holding broken puppet strings screaming at him to get back and do what he's told.
Repeat weekly with a current twist to the plot. It wasn't the specifics of satire from spitting image that made an impact, it was the constant character portrayals, diddy Steele in Owens pocket, the cabinet as slimey yes men, grey Major etc
It would be more powerful in revealing who these people are than the job the media have done, and getting that message through.
I have seen it said on here that Sunak is the only one who is coming out of the current fiasco with any credibility. He is in the job because his predecessor wouldn't do as Cummings told, and he does, just another sycophant for the puppet master. Spitting image can get that message through where others are failing.
