James Cleverley appointed as education secretary.
Good news for Gavin Williamsons legacy
Not so good news for everyone else
airvent
Free Member
It’s all feeling a bit too much like pre-revolutionary France for me.Is that a bad thing?
The terror wasn't just rubbish for the aristocracy, and a lot like cesar in Rome long before, attempting to democratise the system didn't work out to plan.
It’s a crappy system, needs changing, but in the absence of a written constitution, she’s one of the only defences we have right now.
No she isn't, she's largely ceremonial.
I agree, it would be amazing if the Queen could say to a PM "you're totally shit, you're fired" in an Alan Sugar stylee but sadly that's not within the remit.
Farcical. Even if he can fill the cabinet table, there's no way he can fill all the other ministerial roles.
A good time to get rid of the monarchy too!
One thing at a time. Push come to shove I reckon the Forces may have more allegiance to Her Maj than the Downing St crew. This may prove to be useful. 😉
@Chewk by N Borneo do you mean Sabah?
Yes. South Borneo is not that different too.
martinhutch
Free Membershe’s one of the only defences we have right now.
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Some top piss taking by Emily Thornberry
https://twitter.com/jlfallowfield/status/1544978586486116354?s=20&t=Kn5YfiZy6sj6Rcc-JehcEg
But Sabah is Malaysian, I know there is corruption with politicians giving large tracts of rain forest to associates( nepotism) but I don’t see the connection to what is going on here
Ahh how disappointing. Just checked in. Was hoping he'd fight till the bitter end.
So he's going to go, but not today cos he's on a massive coke comedown?
Just got to the top of the Ventoux and thought I'd check the latest.....
Yes, Muppet in chief is gone.
Will wait until I get back to base before seeing what else has happened!!!
I agree, it would be amazing if the Queen could say to a PM “you’re totally shit, you’re fired” in an Alan Sugar stylee but sadly that’s not within the remit.
I think the most she could do is ask the question (do you have the confidence, can you actually form a government etc), and ask the would-be PM to reconsider. You're right, it's largely, but not entirely, ceremonial. Otherwise anyone, regardless of their lack of Parliamentary mandate, could ask to serve as PM.
How I’ll laugh, when Johnson comes outside to speak, to tell everyone he was lying when he said he would resign and runs back inside no.10 😀
Slight distraction folks.
But Sabah is Malaysian, I know there is corruption with politicians giving large tracts of rain forest to associates( nepotism) but I don’t see the connection to what is going on here
They have it all ... clowns, cowboys, takers, dreamers, bureaucrats ... the last thing they have in mind is the welfare of the people.
I am just comparing developing/3rd world politicians with those of UK. Same rubbish but different place. Politicians are politicians.
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I still think a GE should be called.
Cheers!! 🥂
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How I’ll laugh, when Johnson comes outside to speak, to tell everyone he was lying when he said he would resign and runs back inside no.10
But only gets back as far as the door and they don't let him in. 🙂
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Cheers!! 🥂
Don't celebrate too soon coz the world is not out of the current weirdness nor return to normality yet.
Just put away your hang bag or pint for now until normality returns.
p/s: I have not watched news on telly for nearly 3 months now ... coz they clash with my si-fi channels ...
I think the most she could do is ask the question (do you have the confidence, can you actually form a government etc),
It's a long while since I did any BPLS but if I recall the formalities it's a request by the would be PM to form a government (generally after they've assembled one) followed by royal ascent to do so. She could theoretically withdraw that consent and there's nothing to stop anyone trying to form one at any time.
As has been pointed out above, we elect members not a government. The members form a govt and then the Queen gives ascent for that government's prime minister to conduct government on her behalf.
The PM is selected by the house, not specifically, the party in majority.
He could, theoretically be removed by the House without the need for a GE, though quite how is an odd conundrum, not in the least because it would practically mean the PLP proposing a Conservative govt at this juncture.
How I’ll laugh, when Johnson comes outside to speak, to tell everyone he was lying when he said he would resign and runs back inside no.10
But only gets back as far as the door and they don’t let him in. 🙂
Then he climbs over the railings and tries go in through the window 😂
I dont get why everyone is so gleeful about this.
have you seen the shower of shites lining up to replace him.
Im gonna reserve any positivity i have for when there is a propsect of literally anything changing.
It all just pigs bustling at the trough. Nothing more.
the PLP
What's the PLP?
Olly, there's always going to be someone in charge.
All we can hope for are wonderful days like this when we can watch the ****ers squirm.
So the shit sticks till the Autumn. There will be paralysis and cynicism
Cheers!! 🥂
Our is chilling for 5pm. Might go outside and clap at 12:30 though.
@airvent
Parliamentary Labour Party
- the problem for the cons. at the moment it's they have no mechanism for proposing another PM whilst Boris is in post, once he's not, there is no leader, and no mechanism for forming a govt until they have one. They won't roll over on an interim leader (with no royal ascent either) because they're about to fight like rats in a barrel over who gets the job and any interim candidate has a huge head start.
The opposition couldn't try forming a government without it being a cons one because they won't get the support of the house, they do however have a lot of leway to actually propose one, and if it was a cons one (or plucked from the Lords) it might actually get enough support to take over. If course asking the Labour Party to install a cons. government in the interest of the country is no more likely than us all doing a Bobby ewing and realising its still Monday and Boris is still in a job.
It all just pigs bustling at the trough.
That doesn't mean we should let them get on with it unquestioned and unchallenged. Johnson was never suitable for high office... and yes there is every chance that his party will choose someone else just as unsuitable... but they are doing so in front of all the voters. They public will get a say again... they need to remember all this when the time comes.
What’s the PLP?
Parliamentary Labour Party
Cheers!! 🥂
...champagne socialist!! 🤣🤣🤣
Oh great chewy is back. At least he adds some 'balance' to the echo chamber.
🍻 Cheers all! Might treat myself to a beer later.
What’s the PLP?
Parliamentary Labour Party
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Better than those Tennant’s Tories 😂
…champagne socialist!! 🤣🤣🤣
Mines a sparkling Chardonnay. A gift from my other half's Conservative voting father. He's a lovely bloke actually. Unlike Johnson, who's a ____ ....
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Balls - running a course that starts right then. Please god, don't let anyone turn up... 🙂
edit - nevermind, should have refreshed the page before answering!
Everyone ready for an orgy of self-pity?
None of that.... lots of self importance and proving that he's still full of "vim" and ready to do get more (damage) done.
Bonarrrrr
have you seen the shower of shites lining up to replace him.
Or the other party (s) ... you are in for a rough ride.
He could, theoretically be removed by the House without the need for a GE, though quite how is an odd conundrum, not in the least because it would practically mean the PLP proposing a Conservative govt at this juncture.
The process for that is fairly simple - a vote of no confidence lost means that the incumbent PM is then given a brief period to 'regain the confidence of the House'. If he fails to do that, then in theory another MP, in this case Conservative, given the majority, could approach the Queen and ask to form a government. If this MP says he/she could command the confidence of the majority, then the Queen would offer Royal Assent.
A general election would follow only if no other politician was in a position to win a confidence vote. It's associated with VONC mainly because they tend to happen to governments with very slim majorities or minority governments, where there is no immediate prospect of anyone winning another one.
(Mine is some ‘Vino Spumante Prosecco’, with a pint of HPA chaser)
Bets on him being late. Maybe he missed the meeting.
Bonarrrrr
Phnarrr.
Poor Gordon Brown. Wish I'd voted Labour in that election now.
