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MP salary is £84k. An OECD report in 2021 looked at 36 countries and found state secondary headteachers in UK were paid £102k, with only heads in Luxembourg and Mexico earning more.

I expect OECD report looked at total renumeration, likely including pension, which (and lets not get into the good/bad of a teacher pension) is probably worth an additional ~25+% of base salary. If the pay range is ~50-120k I can see how an average might be 80 (which with the bump gets to 102)


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:08 pm
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We’ll now obviously have to endure the oversexed honey monster making a blustering triumphalist statement where he praises this ringing endorsement of his leadership as if he was Blair in 97

Despite 148 of his own MPs thinking about as much of him as the majority of the country

Let’s look forward to those upcoming by-elections eh?

That’s going to be interesting


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:08 pm
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That's better than I thought he'd get after dorries intervention!

But still a big blow to his authority

By-election carnage incoming!


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:09 pm
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And now the Tories are confirmed as the party of Boris. They are shackled to him either for the next year, till they change the rules, or, even worse, until he calls a snap election. They could have to go out on the doorsteps for this lying chump.

No mid-season change of manager bounce for them.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:09 pm
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Best result possible. Had he lost the tories would have time to regroup. Boris' ego won't have him resigned like May so he drag them down all the way to the polls.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:09 pm
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MP salary is £84k. An OECD report in 2021 looked at 36 countries and found state secondary headteachers in UK were paid £102k, with only heads in Luxembourg and Mexico earning more.

@skooby39 have you got a link to the report? Would be interesting to see how it's worked out. The UK, Mexico and Luxembourg seem like odd bedfellows for a top 3 of anything!


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:09 pm
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Meanwhile the important business of running a country is ignored.

Given that we'll have a tory in the hot seat whatever, surely nothing getting done is a hell of a lot better that a free wheeling tory boy out to make a name for themselves before the next GA.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:10 pm
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to be fair, I don't think anyone really loved May, wheras a bunch of the current lot think Boris is the next coming. I think he'll be a lot harder to shift


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:11 pm
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Tax cuts next (especially as the recession kicks in.)

It's the only stupid Tory thing they've got to offer.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:11 pm
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5lab - in which case MPs get far more than £84 000 if you add in the pensions, golden handsharkes etc etc


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:11 pm
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Now watch the Tories further implode and turn on each other as they race to line up as the next leader in waiting

Yup. None of the ambitious, amoral sacks of effluent will come out of this well.

Meanwhile the important business of running a country is ignored.

No change to anything since 2019 then.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:12 pm
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By voting to keep him in post they will be spattered by every sh storm he creates and take a share of each and every boo. Happy days.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:13 pm
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Boris is the next coming

Clearly what Nads is hoping for.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:13 pm
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is it enough for any of the cabinet to jump ship ?


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:14 pm
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https://twitter.com/scotwilliams/status/1533905067845337088?s=21

Not that long ago, in place not very far away…

https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/status/1072990467598385152?s=21


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:14 pm
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@skooby39 have you got a link to the report? Would be interesting to see how it’s worked out. The UK, Mexico and Luxembourg seem like odd bedfellows for a top 3 of anything!

Not the article but below from Guardian. Looks like many on a lot more than £102k.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/20/english-secondary-school-headteachers-among-best-paid-in-the-world


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:15 pm
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Best result possible. Had he lost the tories would have time to regroup. Boris’ ego won’t have him resigned like May so he drag them down all the way to the polls.

I'd like to think this too. Sentiment won't change overnight despite his "now let's focus on doing what's best for the country" horse shit.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:15 pm
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That's a great result; allows johnson to hang on but authority massively reduced. Position much weakened.
Two by-elections in two weeks time which tories are likeky to lose.
Scrutiny committee hearing to
co-incide with tory party conference.
Labour - you've been handed a golden ticket; don't fail to capitalise.
Durham police - there's no case to answer so announce your decision soon.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:16 pm
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the teacher salary thing appears to be here

https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=EAG_TS_STA

no mention of averages, just says the top of scale is $147k, the low is $60k, (both of which match the published data) - if you plain average those 2 figures you get close to $102k - maybe someone forgot to convert $ to £?

that dataset includes mexico being really high in one category, presumably a typo


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:17 pm
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211 imho leaves him right in that Oh **** where the hell do I go from here territory
Yes, it’s a win, but no where near resounding
I suspect knives will be out from here on in


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:17 pm
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Best possible result. Death by a thousand cuts for the bloated oaf.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:17 pm
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I think it's probably the best result. He stays to alienate the voting public even more, whilst also knowing a large amount of his colleagues want him gone.

Paves the way for a lab/coalition government next ge. If Labour can get off thier high horse and actualy collaborate.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:20 pm
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So very depressing and yet entirely predictable


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:24 pm
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By-election carnage incoming!

Not helped by them sending out by-election mail shots unfranked so the lucky recipients have had to pay for the postage.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:25 pm
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Headteachers (as the sign says on their door) have stopped being a meaningful measure now that so many are Academy CEOs (as they are on the paperwork).


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:26 pm
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Durham police – there’s no case to answer so announce your decision soon

Now that is highly debatable. I'd like to support Kier, but it looks like exactly the same scenario. Kier went into an election on a holier than thou basis, but afterwards we find out it went on later than we thought, 12 people, was pre-arranged and the MET bodyguards are describing those present as 'tipsy but not pi.. d'. Oh and of course Kier's office have already formally apologised for an error in saying Angela Rayner wasn't there... Could she not have corrected that herself..

Interesting period coming for UK politics.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:26 pm
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Wonder if carrie antoinette has gone out for a consolatory shag with zac.
Another love child on it's way - coming to a tory front page in 9 months.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:27 pm
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It’s going to be interesting to see what happens now with what passes for policy

A lot of those 148 are fundamentally opposed to the present policy proposals.

An 80 seat majority ain’t worth shit if 148 of them will either abstain or vote against whatever you propose

This could be just a completely paralysed zombie government now, unable to do even the very little that it’s set out to do

Fingers crossed. That’s probably the best result for all of us


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:30 pm
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It’s going to be interesting to see what happens now with what passes for policy

Expect lots and lots of giveaways aimed at hardcore tories rather than the common plebs.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:37 pm
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Not the article but below from Guardian. Looks like many on a lot more than £102k

To be fair, most of the big earners they reference are leading trusts, rather than being heads of schools - I was curious and Googled the one head they mentioned, he's gone now after claims of impropriety and financial mismanagement!


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:37 pm
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He seems to have a cold with all this sniffing


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:42 pm
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This sums up his core problem now:

https://twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1533904725782953984


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:42 pm
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It'll be stated that he's now got the opportunity to regain the confidence of those he lost.
And that will be it. A great success, with the future set out to impress those who opposed him.

All wrapped up in getting on with things...like, the stuff, and the things...


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:54 pm
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I give it a week before the next crisis/scandal

At least 2 more before the by-elections


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 10:59 pm
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He really is our Tr*mp


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:03 pm
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Plenty more well deserved boo-ing coming his way.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:13 pm
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Thatcher was forced out on the back of a less than 41% anti-vote. Johnson scored 48% against the men in suits will have their say.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:18 pm
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given it was called quickly so not give the "rebels" time to organize it's a disaster for Johnson.

even the scum are calling a "huge" tory rebellion.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:18 pm
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I do enjoy a bit of schadenfreude. this is a disaster for the tories. lame duck PM taking them down and down and an open season for infighting. Best for the Uk as well as they will be paralyzed and unable to do much and its a huge boost for labour.

Its the result I wanted


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:20 pm
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I do enjoy a bit of schadenfreude. this is a disaster for the tories. lame duck PM taking them down and down and an open season for infighting. Best for the Uk as well as they will be paralyzed and unable to do much and its a huge boost for labour.

I'm with you on this but my God, the union should have something better to hope for than this.

What a mess of a man and a government.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:23 pm
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Yes, I agree with both the above.

What a scat show.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:28 pm
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What’s the price for the common person though, leaving this in charge? It’ll be fraught 2 years of damage the the UK that we’ll suffer to hope for an opposition leader to emerge who is capable of turning this around.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:29 pm
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What’s the price for the common person though, leaving this in charge?

A tory would be in charge anyway and probably a complete loony since thats all most of the mps would now accept.
The best hope is they get stuck infighting and dont do to much damage to the country.


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:32 pm
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Some golden heckling going on outside no.10 where the BBC are trying to present!
Let him stay and drag this shower of shite down with him


 
Posted : 06/06/2022 11:35 pm
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Might* we see protest** on the streets after this? A hot summer, discontent on so many fronts, and a leader & cabinet incapable of seeing beyond thier own snouts. It's a heady recipe..
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*of course not, we will all grumble on random internet forums and Twitter, a protest for the modern age.
** Only if Pritti thinks she can look strong as a leadership candidate by somehow not enforcing her new laws.


 
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