Fantombiker - the longer he is in post the better for labour and the SNP i am quite sure. I did enjoy the double bluff from Nandy ( I think it was) who said something like "its better for labour to have in place as a discredited leader but its better for the country if he goes" Thats aimed squarely at the tory back benches because it puts doubt in their minds about saving him
FFS up to a year to investigate - they can't seriously be intending to keep the full report from being published until then? Or have they accepted the full report can be published in advance?
Looking at the longer game. Perhaps having BJ keep on as PM serves to keep these parties in the forefront of peoples mind come next election….also plenty of time for him to be caught lying again between then and now…
Mine and a lot of others thoughts, exactly. However you have to assume the wider tory party is astutely aware of this, and acting accordingly when it comes to the timing of ousting thier own leader.
It has to be long enough after this latest scandal, but short enough to allow the new blood to change the swing voters.
And that's allowing any future law breaking/corruption from boris.
He has now committed to publishing the report in full
FFS up to a year to investigate
Fixed penalty fines, I suppose the investigation is to see who gets the big one for organising the party:-)
I don’t think we’ll get to see who got fined or the final report for a looong time (if ever under a Tory leadership), more likely to see the pictures released as they become worth more and more to the papers.
He has now committed to publishing the report in full
Doubt he has. He’d have thrown something to his MPs… he’ll say anything to them. But we won’t see the full report published while Johnson is PM.
He still doesn’t get it, ‘I can fix this’,
it’s like getting caught shoplifting and offering to pay.
It’s more like getting caught shoplifting and saying , “I get it, I’ll go straight back to my office and do what’s expected of me there, honest… and I’m sorry if you have lost something from your store… perhaps you should act on that and rearrange some of your security team.”
Yep, my bad,I forgot he never offers to pay for anything.
How can even dyed in the wool Tories back this corrupt, lying idiot. Its a shame more MPs didnt follow Blackfords lead. Shows how bad things have become if im praising the SNP. Lindsay Hoyle was pathetic, Bercow wouldn't have rolled over like that.
I was going to say prior to this that Blackford would be expelled for calling Johnson a liar.
Captain Hindsight 😀
But he has said sorry …( I’m sorry I keep getting caught) did he have his fingers crossed behind his back like we used to do at primary school? Met looking like weeks away from any outcomes if only they had investigated sooner! Coincidence maybe ..one day they’ll have him out🤞
Nadine Dorres, who I presume is the only Tory MP prepared to go on camera to defend Johnson, had just given an absolute car crash of an interview to channel 4 news. Truly cringeworthy and pathetic
https://twitter.com/ambers196524/status/1488229948095700992?s=21
In stark contrast a visavly angry and upset Ruth Davidson was on immediately afterwards to absolutely slate Johnson
He’s not the victim here.
It’s a shame he didn’t die.
He’s not the victim here
It’s pretty clear they that’s exactly how Johnson sees himself
IANAL but an actual lawyer found it odd that anything had to be kept back as the offences would be subjected to fixed penalty fines and not be going to a jury trial so makes no difference if the names are out there.
The rule breaking in itself wouldn't be subject to anything other than a fixed penalty. But you can exacerbate a minor crime by committing more serious ones to cover them up. You can turn a fixed penalty for speeding into jail time for perjury for instance
At least there is reference to booze at work meetings needing review.
When people said Johnson and others in No 10 should have considered the optics... it seems the best place to put them would be next to the wine fridge.
It’s a shame he didn’t die.
I don't disagree with that.
Ffs, look what the Tories have made me become….. One of those people whose Twitter rants make the local news
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/the-people-stourbridge-care-residents-22936963
Don't know about Mr Hindsight it should be Admiral Inadvertent. After all MPs aren't allowed to say a truthful sentence about him without including the word.
The Speaker should be ashamed shooting the messengers rather than the guilty party.
They need to start making MTB clothing out of whatever it is Boris is coated in. You'd come home from every ride as clean as a whistle.
I don't think Dom is done with him yet though.
Did anyone else catch the Andrew Neil 'Dispatches' on Channel 4 last night?
It was just weird, He's the Chairman of the Spectator and was discussing the Down it Street parties with the Spectator's political editor, who just happens to be Alleges Stratton's husband. Yet he didn't think to ask wether as the political editor of the Spectator he had information about those parties that he was either hiding from the readership, or wether he had been knowingly misleading the readership with misinformation, (as Dominic Cummmings whife had with her article for the same journal around the time of the Barnard Castle escapade).
The programme was an utter joke, and I hear C4 are looking to employ him to front a new politics programme! Someone who for the most part has tried to cover up or excuse the goverments misdemeanors in the last couple of years by being the poster boy for Johnson's culture war.
I'd rather someone commission a politics programme fronted by Danny Dyer.
I see Liz Truss has tested positive for covid after spending all afternoon in the HoC without a mask on
Good old Liz
She’s clearly given a lot of thought to how today could become even more of an utter farce
She doesn’t have to be humiliated by Johnson if he goes to Putin now.
That’s bloody convenient for her . Wasn’t she meant to be going out to visit Vlad soon ?
I wonder if he had offered to give her a guided tour of the local Cathedrals ? 🤔
There must be a reason why she took a test, I.e. she had a suspicion that she might be positive in which case it was reckless to be in that packed chamber and later meeting without a mask on. Especially given the state of politics and need to respond to the Ukraine issue - infecting and effectively therefore immobilising those responsible for dealing with it is a big deal.
Or - it’s a rather convenient excuse to dodge being seen to fail at discussions with Putin and gives the ability to get her leadership campaign planning underway out of the limelight.
So - reckless selfishness or lying, which one do you reckon ?
Dimwitted. So dense she has her own gravity field
Be funny if the entire government suddenly catches it
https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1488244088075923458?s=19
You’d come home from every ride as clean as a whistle.
Whilst the mud would slide off the outside the problem is the shite and slime on the inside.
Send Nadine she'd put Yeltsin under the table.
I'm increasingly frustrated by the Speaker of the House and the mechanics of parliament. It seems no one is able or willing to do something and force the PM and cabinet to address the issues.
We've had a fortnight now of protecting Boris - every distraction, manipulation, mis-direction and ignoring of facts that can be dragged out, is being dragged out.
The Gray report is buried for a year.
The House is innefective.
Democracy is being eroded here, at a dramatic rate.
Yes. Boris is a proven liar but you can't say it ffs
Worth watching again…
https://twitter.com/karlturnermp/status/1488242449394896904?s=21
How did we end up with a government minister like this?! I know the answer, Johnson surrounding himself with the inept as long they’ll debase themselves and politics in general to support him. He needs to go. He needs to take his legion of lying and inept ministers with him.
Also wtf is a 'work event' if not a social gathering?
Work is work, a meeting is a meeting...
"I thought it was a work event" to me is an admission of guilt.
Dorries was born to demand to speak to the manager wasn't she?
Is it just me , or does she look like she’s just come out of the bar ?
I wish the next time he starts babbling about vaccines Starmer interrupts and says that Johnson should be consistent and wait for the covid inquiry to complete first. The one we are still waiting to get started.
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It’s a shame he didn’t die.
They'd have made him into a martyr or a saint if that had happened. Brave, brave Boris, laying down his life to save the grateful people of Britain from the nasty EU and that horrible Covid.
