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have you seen the shower of shites lining up to replace him.
Or the other party (s) ... you are in for a rough ride.
He could, theoretically be removed by the House without the need for a GE, though quite how is an odd conundrum, not in the least because it would practically mean the PLP proposing a Conservative govt at this juncture.
The process for that is fairly simple - a vote of no confidence lost means that the incumbent PM is then given a brief period to 'regain the confidence of the House'. If he fails to do that, then in theory another MP, in this case Conservative, given the majority, could approach the Queen and ask to form a government. If this MP says he/she could command the confidence of the majority, then the Queen would offer Royal Assent.
A general election would follow only if no other politician was in a position to win a confidence vote. It's associated with VONC mainly because they tend to happen to governments with very slim majorities or minority governments, where there is no immediate prospect of anyone winning another one.
(Mine is some ‘Vino Spumante Prosecco’, with a pint of HPA chaser)
Bets on him being late. Maybe he missed the meeting.
Bonarrrrr
Phnarrr.
Poor Gordon Brown. Wish I'd voted Labour in that election now.
(Mine is some ‘Vino Spumante Prosecco’, with a pint of HPA chaser)
Hereford Pale Ale?
Where's JRM at the moment, plotting something.
At least my local my isn't a complete weapon 🤣
What's all this "that party", not "my party" stuff?
All excited about "his" mandate and "him" trying to deliver on it.
Brexit, vaccines, Ukraine... (all nonsense, but there's the claim for a legacy).
It’s associated with VONC mainly because they tend to happen to governments with very slim majorities or minority governments, where there is no immediate prospect of anyone winning another one.
Practically there isn't in the case of the cons. The Labour Party could, in a similar position, lose, have the deputy leader assume the reigns and form a new government tomorrow, or a coalition could be formed etc.
The difficulty is the structure of the cons. party means there is no alternative member waiting to take up the position.
So someone else would need to put them forward.
Yes Kelvin
Chuckling at Steve Bray playing bye bye Boris over his speech (that is full of BS)
What a weapons-grade ****.
Props to the heckler at the gates to Downing St.
It only took 60secs of the clown speaking for me to swear out loud at the monitor and switch off his yabbering.
Now I want to know what his close person security team have seen... "the one team that doesn't leak".
"Our future together is golden".... sunlit uplands... keep waiting... they'll come... thanks to me.
Awful speech. The only thing he cared about was how wonderful he was. Received to see the back of the bell-end.
What’s all this “that party”, not “my party” stuff?
All excited about “his” mandate and “him” trying to deliver on it.
Brexit, vaccines, Ukraine… (all nonsense, but there’s the claim for a legacy).
IMO the opposition parties are just going to screw things up as well.
p/s: in such short duration of 5 years, UK had 2 PMs ... I feel for the Business sector
Why does Boris think he was elected by the British people? He isn’t elected PM by anyone but the party
Awful speech. The only thing he cared about was how wonderful he was. Received to see the back of the bell-end.
+1 but did you expect anything else?
Well, that was awash with humility and apology. Not.
So, no apology for being a ****. No surprise really
Apology ... apology ... !?!?! 🤣
Practically there isn’t in the case of the cons.
The Queen has the Royal Prerogative to appoint anyone put forward by the party grandees as an interim leader.
It only took 60secs of the clown speaking for me to swear out loud at the monitor and switch off his yabbering.
Couldn't help myself and turned it back on. WTF is he going on about, full of self-serving shite. Just **** off now.
All excited about “his” mandate and “him” trying to deliver on it.
Brexit, vaccines, Ukraine… (all nonsense, but there’s the claim for a legacy).
Be happy about one of those drums, if he bangs the "got Brexit done" one long enough and hard enough there's a good chancea lot of the electorate will believe it, that means the next tory leader won't need to be a rabid brexiteer but rather someone who is capable of delivering (or seeming to) other policies which will appeal in the "red wall" seats especially if they're going to hold a majority next time round.
Daft as it sounds Brexit being done is possibly the best legacy Boris could have in terms of us ending up with a moderate government for the next few years.
I'm not celebrating as I can't see any improvements on the horizon. Snouts playing musical chairs.
Had to switch it off because it was making me nauseous, but then switched on again, just hoping he might say something useful. But no.
WTF is "them's the breaks"?
I liked the bit where he thanked his children. Good job he didn't have to list them all by name.
that means the next tory leader won’t need to be a rabid brexiteer
Place your bets. There's MPs, and the members... they get a say way before the general electorate. It'll be a "real" Brexiter, with no economic policy beyond "sensible tax cuts".
And now the summer of utter Boris madness begins, damaging the country even further until the day he actually leaves #10.
Sorry not sorry, resigning not resigning.
Or was that re-signing?
The Queen has the Royal Prerogative to appoint anyone put forward by the party grandees as an interim leader.
No, she has perogative to appoint a PM put forward by the house.
The grandees don't have the authority to put a leader in place and the party has no mechanism for doing so without a leadership election.
Without a leader they have no one who can claim enough support to be proposed. So no one the queen can assent to. They're currently being screwed over by their own democratic process.
If they did Brady would have taken rabb up for anointment yesterday immediately after meeting Boris.
The only real way is the opposition support a candidate with moderate tory support to form a government with something resembling a majority based on that opposition support.
We're in the farcical position where starmer needs to propose someone like May or Clarke form a government
I despair at the number of people who genuinely think that he and his government are doing a good job.
Should there be an STW Boris Johnson divorce sweepstake?
Dibs on 18months.
The man really has no shame at all.
He's staying on as PM only because it still gives him a sliver of a chance to win the party back over.
He is staying on, to look for an angle, any crack that he can prise open and use to let him stay on as PM. This fire is not out yet.
The tories are as stupid as they look if they allow him to continue even for an hour more, he will burn them all in his quest for personal power.
If nothing else the resignation speech was true to form
- sees himself as the victim
- blames others
- can't quite believe that we all think he's shit at his job
https://twitter.com/Markgatiss/status/1544959124521246720?t=GwVPQ5fn32Eo3ZlLwFd5Lg&s=19
He's not resigned as PM yet - just said he will in the future ...
On a side note...how on earth do you share a tweet with image rather than just a Web link????
He is staying on, to look for an angle, any crack that he can prise open and use to let him stay on as PM. This fire is not out yet.
Stay on as PM... or come back as PM. That speech didn't sound like he thinks it's really over. I agree that he's looking for a way...
I’m not celebrating as I can’t see any improvements on the horizon. Snouts playing musical chairs.
Immediate improvement is just for unicorn dreamers.
Nothing will improve while the fuel cost is rising, food shortages and sanctions on Russia.
I predict many short term governments in future due to the above ... I see that coming. Told you sanctions are for silly billy.
The tories are as stupid as they look if they allow him to continue even for an hour more, he will burn them all in his quest for personal power.
Isn't that a good thing for the opposition party(s)? Let them burn themselves?
Putin bots properly engaged today. Only right that we have our own approximation of one.
Should there be an STW Boris Johnson divorce sweepstake?
12 months i think, gives him time to get his earnings up then she can screw him for lots of money before running off to lord zac
Putin bots properly engaged today. Only right that we have our own approximation of one.
I suspect the next PM will not last for more than 3 years or a term regardless of the party they come from. LOL!
I liked the bit where he thanked his children. Good job he didn’t have to list them all by name.
Made me draw a wry smile too..
Who's the PLP?
Nope, I was thinking of the Peoples Front of Judea?
chewkw - out of interest, why are you such a Putin fan?
PS - the food shortages started, as I recall, when BoJo implemented his hard Brexit without checking we could import stuff from Europe, weak idiot that he is.
It's his sex appeal... and success at political destabilisation. A thorn in the side of the zombie maggots.
https://twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1544716533842206720?s=20&t=PC5C9Vj5pcvIHJOZlxPb0g
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1544993406497263617?s=20&t=PC5C9Vj5pcvIHJOZlxPb0g
All the ministers that lied for Johnson as regards this meeting (and others) should be kept out of the new cabinet. Yes, that includes Raab.
Johnson should be excluded from the privy council. Time to revisit those security checks on him. He shouldn't be PM for a moment longer.
Slight distraction ... I am only answering question.
chewkw – out of interest, why are you such a Putin fan?
Because the west has overstepped the boundary. West has no business in that part of the world especially with Ukraine.
Now we all suffer ...
PS – the food shortages started, as I recall, when BoJo implemented his hard Brexit without checking we could import stuff from Europe, weak idiot that he is.
That is just a minor problem. Fuel or world grain were not affected then but when the sanctions start that's where a minor problem snowball into a global problem.
Nope, I was thinking of the Peoples Front of Judea?
Splitters!
There's a part of me, the longer this goes on, thinks Boris is doing us all a favour. That he'll do so much damage to the party image that it'll not be worth enough to bind the disparate groups and we'll see a genuine split in the into two distinct parties, the right and left ceasing their increasingly uneasy truce and simply going their own way.
The tories are so divided anyway any pm will only last a few years at most before the internal divisions cause them to fall
What’s all this “that party”, not “my party” stuff?
All part of when he wants to launch his own party obvs, he'll be playing the Farage playbook to maximise his future income.
The Tory party has prevented him from doing the work of the people.
West has no business in that part of the world especially with Ukraine.
Europe should have no interest in a European country?
I beg to disagree.
As would the Ukrainian family staying across the street that I’ve just lent (possibly given really) a spare bike to
Or the Latvian I work with whose grandfather was killed because he was a policeman when the Russians decided to suppress Latvia. (Admittedly that wasn’t Putin)
And when Putin acts like Hitler’s understudy by rolling tanks across Europe and systematically targeting civilians, then yes we are all going to suffer sooner or later. Best suffer sooner and hopefully less.
I beg to disagree.
Let's agree to disagree.
Let's return to the topic of BoJo otherwise the excitable crowds will huff and puff, and I don't want to be blamed.
Quick... get your marketing material out... jump on the bandwagon...
I see the swivel-eyed ERGers are taking it well
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1545021454751830016
Just watching the news at 1. BBC going around interviewing the public to get their reaction to BJs resignation.
I'm scared that there are so many people out there who think he was doing a good job and are disappointed that he's leaving.
Granted due to the time of day and location (golf course and high street) a number of them were older middle class voters, so not a representative spread.
But still Jesus wept.
Vox pops are not news.
chewk is taking this very badly
chewk is taking this very badly
Don’t forget he called it yesterday. Boris was never going to resign.
chewk is taking this very badly
For once you lot a happy! LOL!
You lot have been miserable for a while as far as I know.
I am glad to be an entertainment to cheer you lot up.
No, no I am not taking it badly ... there are greater concerns for me such as £2.05/litre for Super Premium petrol at Esso and food price increase.
Don’t forget he called it yesterday. Boris was never going to resign.
Indeed I have. I even bet that for £5 Tesco new Swedish coffee (rather nice but a bit acidic). But I did not lose my bet because the other person said overnight but it is actually 12.30pm the next day. LOL! Otherwise, I need to buy £5 coffee ...
Yes, I rather like BoJo to stay and does not want to see him go because the alternative is simply unthinkable. They are all clowns (all politicians)! I rather have a funny clown than a clown that does not bring laughter.
Boris was never going to resign.
To be fair... he hasn't yet.
Super Premium petrol at Esso and food price increase
All your rants about green policies and European trade and worker freedoms hitting you in the pocket then? Yes, Putin's war is also key in those food prices... but you back him as well. You should be spending that extra money, pleased that so much has gone the way you want. Be proud of the price increases, they are the result of your world view.
I despair at the number of people who genuinely think that he and his government are doing a good job.
Or even a job.
Get used to high petrol prices. We need to start taxing CO2 out of the economy. Recycling that tax into low carbon alternatives would be sensible - we need more of that.
Should there be an STW Boris Johnson divorce sweepstake?
I'll take 15 months.
I'll take 4 years in the sweepstake. She'll stick with him 'till one of them has a child with someone else. Odds on that is him, of course.
Get used to high petrol prices. We need to start taxing CO2 out of the economy. Recycling that tax into low carbon alternatives would be sensible – we need more of that.
The next govt will not last with that view. LOL! I dare them.
All your rants about green policies and European trade and worker freedoms hitting you in the pocket then? Yes, Putin’s war is also key in those food prices… but you back him as well. You should be spending that extra money, pleased that so much has gone the way you want. Be proud of the price increases, they are the result of your world view.
My world view is against sanctions which affect fuel and world grain. As for minor competition with EU after Brexit that's normal business. Anyone or business will do the same to force competition in their own ways.
I’ll take 4 years in the sweepstake. She’ll stick with him ’till one of them has a child with someone else. Odds on that is him, of course.
Crikey, you target their personal lives now? Why get so personal? You won? BoJo is no longer PM.
in his faux resignation speech he said 'in politics, no one is indispensible'... those are the exact words used against him by the chair of the liason committee that was butchering him yesterday 🤣
that means the next tory leader won’t need to be a rabid brexiteer
Well, this might be worth reading…
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/suella-braverman-boris-johnson-resigns-b2117756.html
A female Trump-analogue running the country? 😱
Oh, and Chewkw, try reading some history about Ukraine, it’s people and Russia. Ukraine was settled by Scandinavia Vikings, who became its rulers, in particular look up Saint Olga. Also Russia gets its name from the Rus, a word that is derived from the term ‘those who build boats’, that is, Vikings.
Despite all of his attempts to rewrite European history, to promote himself as Tsar Peter the Great, it’s a fact that Ukraine was a state, with its capital city Kyiv, a thousand years ago, before Moscow even existed and was, and still is, part of Europe.
Now shut up and go and learn something useful.
Balls – running a course that starts right then. Please god, don’t let anyone turn up… 🙂
One person turned up. 🙁 Have I missed anything? 🙂
Crikey, you target their personal lives now? Why get so personal?
Because by all accounts Carrie Johnson was the puppeteer behind the scenes pulling the strings that Boris Johnson dangled from.
Why get so personal?
I didn't make it personal. Johnson has tried (and in many cased succeed) to funnel public money to his series of sexual partners (that he was also married at the time isn't my concern). His personal life and his political live were intertwined by him. He should have kept them apart. Don't go blaming others for his corruption bringing together his sex life and his work time as Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and Prime Minister.
I’ll take 4 years in the sweepstake. She’ll stick with him ’till one of them has a child with someone else. Odds on that is him, of course.
And you think that'll take 4 years? I can't imagine there's not already at least one in the oven somewhere.
in his faux resignation speech he said ‘in politics, no one is indispensible’… those are the exact words used against him by the chair of the liason committee that was butchering him yesterday 🤣
Does it not fill you with dread that he actually means the 1922 committee today, then broadly the whole of Parliament tomorrow?
Because by all accounts Carrie Johnson was the puppeteer behind the scenes pulling the strings that Boris Johnson dangled from.
I see ... but it's tricky because they are husband and wife with children. Sometimes official role and family life can be blurred when they are also a family. Let them go in peace. BoJo was only a PM for a short time not forever.
Now shut up and go and learn something useful.
So Vikings were the invader then? Do we have to go that far?
Ahh.. Boris Johnson, family man... so selfless.