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Anither onw to fond of colum ias finest meaning polcy set according to his intake. Guaranteed boom and bust
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow
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That went straight over my head
Her exact words....
At Last
I would like to withdraw my previous statement. I won't believe that Boris the liar has gone until some other Tory is in number ten. The UK will continue along the same old lines
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow
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That went straight over my head
Her exact words….
Boom Boom! 😀
so something will have to happen
Queen to ask SKS to form an interim govt? That would be hilarious, though I've little doubt the PLP would go into meltdown too.
I suspect he’ll earn more in his first year after being PM than any of us will in our lifetimes.
Agreed, and this will be the sour after the sweetness of him going. Sucks ass but this is the world we live in where self serving thunder****$ do better than hardworking good folk
Amazing that his admission yesterday that, as Foreign Secretary, he met a former senior KGB officer without any of his officials present, is just a barely-noticed ripple on the tide of shit.
Beeb reporting the 1922 deputy wasn't Boris gone and rabb in place immediately.
Here's where the chickens come home folks
Genuinely terrifying realisation.
I've heard nothing at all of Big Nige in the last few days. Please someone tell me that's because he's died or something.
Anither onw to fond of colum ias finest meaning polcy set according to his intake.
anyone else reading that in the voice of Officer Crabtree?
Amazing that his admission yesterday
Yeah, I spotted that as well, and it's been all but ignored in the ongoing festival that is the "Boris Shit show" In any other lifetime, that admission alone should've seen him booted out. We're nowt better than a banana republic, I can imagine Carrie steaming off the £800.00 a roll wallpaper as we speak.
Beeb reporting the 1922 deputy wasn’t Boris gone and rabb in place immediately.
Here’s where the chickens come home folks
Mother of god, is this Dominic 'I didn't realise that Dover was important for movement of goods' Rabb? that one?
Just catching up as I've been working all morning. Bloody hell! He's going to do the right thing!
Which begs the question: who has what on him to make this the only option?
Pretty bonkers thou Johnson’s government collapsing after one blokes boozy night out and not even Johnson.
Didn’t see that one coming.
I had a feeling an outside infuence might be the final straw at some point, poor behaviour by Johnson isn't unusual and has become the norm. Thought it would take more than a randy drunk minister though as there's far too many of them!
that admission alone should’ve seen him booted out
It was already well known (including within the FCO and wider CC)... and the ministers that claimed it didn't happen, when, let's be clear, they knew it did... they need to go as well. Yes, that includes Raab. They'll claim they were just repeating "reassurances" by Johnson... but they knew the truth when they did so. Complicit in covering up Johnson's behaviour as regards Russian connections. If Raab chooses to try and be PM, and makes the mistake of claiming that he didn't know about Johnson's solo dealings with an exKGB agent, he as it risk of a CC or ex-CC coming forward and making the truth plain.
Thought it would take more than a randy drunk minister though as there’s far too many of them!
If the randy drunk was quitelty demoted we wouldn't be here, it more that boris new about it, promoted him, and then lied about it repeatedly.
This is the rabb who, could for once have put his skills to use to do something useful and judo-thrown Boris out of the window of number 10 but couldn't even manage that.
It’s a relief to know that now Boris is gone, a few thousand racist pensioners in Eastbourne will get to decide who our next PM is
Being reported he is about to announce his new cabinet team?????????????????
I for one, cannot ****ing wait to see who he's dredged up for it. How many headbangers has he dug up out of the Lords to prop it up?
This is bonkers - announcing a new Cabinet team - is he trolling us?
I get a vote in the leadership - I joined the party six months ago for this very reason seeing that somebody else on here had done that. I also joined the labour party too for balance (very sure we can rely on them not sharing membership lists....)
How many headbangers has he dug up out of the Lords to prop it up?
The one named so far is Greg Clark which is interesting since he is one of those who had the whip withdrawn for a while for not being sufficiently nutty about brexit.
I can imagine Carrie steaming off the £800.00 a roll wallpaper as we speak.
Nah...Zac will have plenty for her to choose from
I am also enjoying all the Ministers "I am not resigning as I am key to my department delivering" I think many many thousands of civil servants may disagree. I spoke to a friend in NI Civil Service who said they get loads more done without Ministers pet projects.
LOL just listneing the BBC interview with an MP (i think) - and Benny Hill theme tune starts blasting out.. 🙂
New cabinet?
That's [potentially] a brilliant tactical move - Rabb out and JRM or worse into position as deputy PM. Then dare the 1922 to kick him out of post and install his deputy.
I imagine Dorries will find it all very hard to swallow. What a shower.
It's all feeling a bit too much like pre-revolutionary France for me.
There is no actual "deputy PM" that automatically becomes PM if Johnson can be removed. Raab has been acting as a "de facto deputy"... stepping in and looking panicked when Johnson is hiding (or ill)... but he hasn't actually got a title or position that means anything beyond being a minister.
It’s all feeling a bit too much like pre-revolutionary France for me.
Is that a bad thing?
I imagine Dorries will find it all very hard to swallow.
Now, that I don't believe.
Apparently Therese Coffey wanted to speak to Boris yesterday but implies that she didn't resign (like Patel) because she feels her presence at the DWP is important so the "wheels keep on turning"
These folks are delusional.
Ultimately the Queen appoints the PM, even acting ones, and she would undoubtedly ask whether that person had the confidence of Parliament (ie the confidence of the majority of MPs - his/her party) and is able to form a government. She is advised by the Privy Council in how to exercise her Royal Prerogative when it comes to appointing PMs.
Ultimately the Queen appoints the PM, even acting ones
A good time to get rid of the monarchy too!
He's clearly trying to delay the actual resignation until autumn in some vague hope that he can reverse the situation between now and then.
He needs gone today. I suspect this is the current argument taking place behind the scenes
Just managed to see the news.
Are these the reasons as stated by BBC ? What a bunch of non/minor-issues.
Should call for a GE for more fun.
Crikey how silly these people are and I don't mean ordinary voters.
My view of UK main political parties ... Tories are full of clowns, Labour full of self-obsessed righteousness takers, Lib Dem full of Unicorn dreamers, and SNP long term EU bureaucrats' subordinate.
Let me get this right is the UK politics heading in the direction of N.Borneo (many "cowboys" over there) or has the politics of N. Borneo politics caught up with UK?
Now I want to see how the next PM handles Russia. Should be interesting coz the effects have started ... No Presidents or PMs will last long with rising cost and shortages.
He’s clearly trying to delay the actual resignation until autumn in some vague hope that he can reverse the situation between now and then.
No, he should fight until the end. Why make it easy?
Is that a bad thing?
That's what I'm wondering.
Ministers who leave their jobs get 25% severance pay, irrespective of time served. Guido Fawkes estimates this week's mass departure will cost £420K. If another load of appointees then shortly are replaced that could be another few £100K's!! It's set in legislation so 'non-negotiable'
(in fairness, Michelle Donelan has said the £16K she's entitled to for her 2 days service will go to charity)
A good time to get rid of the monarchy too!
TBH, right now is the only time which she might be some use in terms of checks and balances. The ****er has already bypassed these once by lying to her to get her to prorogue Parliament, so she won't be putting up with any bullshit this time.
It's a crappy system, needs changing, but in the absence of a written constitution, she's one of the only defences we have right now.
Seriously, what the effing chuff is Boris now doing?! He's now announcing a new Cabinet. Greg Clark, James Cleverley.
Just do one Bojo. You're a disgrace.
@Chewk by N Borneo do you mean Sabah?
James Cleverley appointed as education secretary.
Good news for Gavin Williamsons legacy
Not so good news for everyone else
airvent
Free Member
It’s all feeling a bit too much like pre-revolutionary France for me.Is that a bad thing?
The terror wasn't just rubbish for the aristocracy, and a lot like cesar in Rome long before, attempting to democratise the system didn't work out to plan.
It’s a crappy system, needs changing, but in the absence of a written constitution, she’s one of the only defences we have right now.
No she isn't, she's largely ceremonial.
I agree, it would be amazing if the Queen could say to a PM "you're totally shit, you're fired" in an Alan Sugar stylee but sadly that's not within the remit.
Farcical. Even if he can fill the cabinet table, there's no way he can fill all the other ministerial roles.
A good time to get rid of the monarchy too!
One thing at a time. Push come to shove I reckon the Forces may have more allegiance to Her Maj than the Downing St crew. This may prove to be useful. 😉
@Chewk by N Borneo do you mean Sabah?
Yes. South Borneo is not that different too.
martinhutch
Free Membershe’s one of the only defences we have right now.
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Some top piss taking by Emily Thornberry
https://twitter.com/jlfallowfield/status/1544978586486116354?s=20&t=Kn5YfiZy6sj6Rcc-JehcEg
But Sabah is Malaysian, I know there is corruption with politicians giving large tracts of rain forest to associates( nepotism) but I don’t see the connection to what is going on here
Ahh how disappointing. Just checked in. Was hoping he'd fight till the bitter end.
So he's going to go, but not today cos he's on a massive coke comedown?
Just got to the top of the Ventoux and thought I'd check the latest.....
Yes, Muppet in chief is gone.
Will wait until I get back to base before seeing what else has happened!!!
I agree, it would be amazing if the Queen could say to a PM “you’re totally shit, you’re fired” in an Alan Sugar stylee but sadly that’s not within the remit.
I think the most she could do is ask the question (do you have the confidence, can you actually form a government etc), and ask the would-be PM to reconsider. You're right, it's largely, but not entirely, ceremonial. Otherwise anyone, regardless of their lack of Parliamentary mandate, could ask to serve as PM.
How I’ll laugh, when Johnson comes outside to speak, to tell everyone he was lying when he said he would resign and runs back inside no.10 😀
Slight distraction folks.
But Sabah is Malaysian, I know there is corruption with politicians giving large tracts of rain forest to associates( nepotism) but I don’t see the connection to what is going on here
They have it all ... clowns, cowboys, takers, dreamers, bureaucrats ... the last thing they have in mind is the welfare of the people.
I am just comparing developing/3rd world politicians with those of UK. Same rubbish but different place. Politicians are politicians.
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I still think a GE should be called.
Cheers!! 🥂
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How I’ll laugh, when Johnson comes outside to speak, to tell everyone he was lying when he said he would resign and runs back inside no.10
But only gets back as far as the door and they don't let him in. 🙂
Statement at 12:30
Cheers!! 🥂
Don't celebrate too soon coz the world is not out of the current weirdness nor return to normality yet.
Just put away your hang bag or pint for now until normality returns.
p/s: I have not watched news on telly for nearly 3 months now ... coz they clash with my si-fi channels ...
I think the most she could do is ask the question (do you have the confidence, can you actually form a government etc),
It's a long while since I did any BPLS but if I recall the formalities it's a request by the would be PM to form a government (generally after they've assembled one) followed by royal ascent to do so. She could theoretically withdraw that consent and there's nothing to stop anyone trying to form one at any time.
As has been pointed out above, we elect members not a government. The members form a govt and then the Queen gives ascent for that government's prime minister to conduct government on her behalf.
The PM is selected by the house, not specifically, the party in majority.
He could, theoretically be removed by the House without the need for a GE, though quite how is an odd conundrum, not in the least because it would practically mean the PLP proposing a Conservative govt at this juncture.
How I’ll laugh, when Johnson comes outside to speak, to tell everyone he was lying when he said he would resign and runs back inside no.10
But only gets back as far as the door and they don’t let him in. 🙂
Then he climbs over the railings and tries go in through the window 😂
I dont get why everyone is so gleeful about this.
have you seen the shower of shites lining up to replace him.
Im gonna reserve any positivity i have for when there is a propsect of literally anything changing.
It all just pigs bustling at the trough. Nothing more.
the PLP
What's the PLP?
Olly, there's always going to be someone in charge.
All we can hope for are wonderful days like this when we can watch the ****ers squirm.
So the shit sticks till the Autumn. There will be paralysis and cynicism
Cheers!! 🥂
Our is chilling for 5pm. Might go outside and clap at 12:30 though.
@airvent
Parliamentary Labour Party
- the problem for the cons. at the moment it's they have no mechanism for proposing another PM whilst Boris is in post, once he's not, there is no leader, and no mechanism for forming a govt until they have one. They won't roll over on an interim leader (with no royal ascent either) because they're about to fight like rats in a barrel over who gets the job and any interim candidate has a huge head start.
The opposition couldn't try forming a government without it being a cons one because they won't get the support of the house, they do however have a lot of leway to actually propose one, and if it was a cons one (or plucked from the Lords) it might actually get enough support to take over. If course asking the Labour Party to install a cons. government in the interest of the country is no more likely than us all doing a Bobby ewing and realising its still Monday and Boris is still in a job.
It all just pigs bustling at the trough.
That doesn't mean we should let them get on with it unquestioned and unchallenged. Johnson was never suitable for high office... and yes there is every chance that his party will choose someone else just as unsuitable... but they are doing so in front of all the voters. They public will get a say again... they need to remember all this when the time comes.
What’s the PLP?
Parliamentary Labour Party
Cheers!! 🥂
...champagne socialist!! 🤣🤣🤣
Oh great chewy is back. At least he adds some 'balance' to the echo chamber.
🍻 Cheers all! Might treat myself to a beer later.
What’s the PLP?
Parliamentary Labour Party
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Better than those Tennant’s Tories 😂
…champagne socialist!! 🤣🤣🤣
Mines a sparkling Chardonnay. A gift from my other half's Conservative voting father. He's a lovely bloke actually. Unlike Johnson, who's a ____ ....
Statement at 12:30
Balls - running a course that starts right then. Please god, don't let anyone turn up... 🙂
edit - nevermind, should have refreshed the page before answering!
Everyone ready for an orgy of self-pity?
None of that.... lots of self importance and proving that he's still full of "vim" and ready to do get more (damage) done.
Bonarrrrr