Forum menu
Any thoughts of what will be his new grift?
Straight back to the after-dinner speaking circuit, for 10x the money (drinks included).
Stay until the autumn - WTAF?
When pretty much every minister who has resigned (and presumably will need reinstating to make sure government is possible) has said they were doing so because you were a scumbag. And you want to work with them for a few more months. No normal person would want that.
Takes a look at the potential replacements
Shudders…
.....and he's off .....
Prince Andrew could step up to the plate 😉
I just have a sense of fear about what comes next.
Ramsay Bolton I think.
It'll be Hunt after this debacle.
Stay until the autumn – WTAF?
Who’ll notice? This lot don’t actually DO anything, anyway
So Brexit continues to eat it’s own.
I’m sure it’ll eat the next one too, who’s bound to be a Brexiteer and will be equally as unable to do anything about it’s ridiculous contradictions
Ramsay Bolton I think.
Que??? (Apologies if this should be blindingly obvious)
Ramsay Bolton I think.
*laughs
*cries
This is so Johnson though. Try it on, even though it is obviously untenable, then only when it becomes obvious even to him, change tack for something a bit more arsed, then change again to what everyone (except him) thought was the obvious thing to do. Part of the issue is his carelessness, he has only ever done the part of the job that didn't involve care. The idea of Johnson as caretaker is laughable.
Again... what greyspoke said... all that.
Honestly until the reports go from ‘resigning’ to ‘resigned’ I’m celebrating nothing.
Even then I will remain suspicious until he is out of Downing Street…
I just have a sense of fear about what comes next.
Stains like this chump?
Que???
Game of Thrones, he was a nasty nasty man.
fazzini
Full MemberRamsay Bolton I think.
Que??? (Apologies if this should be blindingly obvious)
Sorry, game of thrones reference.
Game of Thrones
Ah. I see. Never seen it. Released during my hermit phase. I've heard folk tell tales of it come to think 😂
Steve Baker being interviewed on BBC. A truly dangerous individual.
The idea of Johnson as caretaker is laughable.
I think it is a realistic assessment of the limits of his talents although possibly only in a small village school.
He's literally got to be dragged kicking and screaming, hasn't he. How delicious. 🙂
apparently we’re all Tories?!!
I suspect the 1922 will boot him out next week anyway, if he wants to stay on as caretaker.
Remember these are tories we're talking about and they don't like boris right now.
Honestly until the reports go from ‘resigning’ to ‘resigned’ I’m celebrating nothing.
Even then I will remain suspicious until he is out of Downing Street…
Yep, me too. I suspect the tw*t is currently supergluing himself to his desk.
I suspect the 1922 will boot him out next week anyway, if he wants to stay on as caretaker.
Remember these are tories we’re talking about and they don’t like boris right now.
1922 can't eject a PM, just start a run off to replace their party leader.
Conservative MPs need to find a way to make this quick though... it looks to me that Johnson is pushing them into a coronation for a new leader, with his intransigence. Perhaps they can choose a new temporary leader... and then start a second leadership selection process as soon as they are PM, and Johnson is out of the way.
The key thing is whether he can still form a government. Will they all come crawling back and accept the authority of a man they've been basically calling a liar for the last few days?
If he had taken the opportunity to take their advice and resign 36 hours ago, maybe, not so sure now. They may as well excise the tumour properly now he's caused this much trouble.
But in the two days (a bit less) that it took for him to do what he obviously ought to have done, he has managed to lose/get rid of most of the government, making the situation far more difficult to deal with than it would have been had he done it when he should have. Again typical Johnson. All he is capble of is destruction.
What will happen next is going to be truly terrifying. All against backdrop of a recession, rampant inflation and a cost of living crisis like we've never seen...
The leadership contest will be fought between the most hardline, thick-as-mince brexiteer headbangers, trying to out-Brexit and out-culture war each other, because that's what the Tory membership want
God only knows which loon they'll land us all with, but I doubt they'll last long anyway
This is going to be horrible
Didn't Cameron say he'd stay on for a few weeks / months to esnure a smooth transition then walked the next day?
Yes I’m glad he is going as the man is a shameful, odious excuse for a public servant. I just have a sense of fear about what comes next.
Agreed. Whilst, it’s highly amusing seeing all these loathsome MPs proposing themselves as new Prime Minister - (Steve Baker currently putting himself forward live on BBC News! 😱) - but I cannot begin to think how bad it might get.
Who is the worst potential candidate? Priti Patel? Raab? ??
Who do the ‘I’m considering voting for Starmer’ tories want?
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow.
Aatrrrrrggghhhhhhhhhaassrrrggggghhhhhh
1922 can’t eject a PM, just start a run off to replace their party leader.
Yes sorry I wasn't clear... That's what I meant, although it's tantamount to the same thing as there's no way he'll survive an internal tory confidence vote.
He can’t be allowed to stay on. He’s deranged.
He was deranged long before this and ended up as PM
I'm not asred if he's the Tory party leader. That's not important.
We need him to resigning as PM. If he stays clinging on as PM for another 3-4 months that's even more of a disaster for the country. Same BS, same lies, same deceit, same utter incompetence.
And we know we can't trust him or Rees-Smugg not to use the time to try pull another illegal move to stay in power.
Maybe he's hoping queenie will croak it to use as an excuse to delay even more. Then a further winter Covid return to delay again. It'll be 2023 before we know it.
Maybe its time we had a military coup. Or civil uprising.
Again typical Johnson. All he is capble of is destruction.
I’d love him to scorch the earth as he leaves. His statement would start “I’ve remarkably remembered all the things that have happened over the past few years. Firstly…”
Didn’t Cameron say he’d stay on for a few weeks / months to esnure a smooth transition then walked the next day?
Dum dee dumm dee dee
Listening to 5 live is an eye opener, isn't it.... The great British public. 🤔
Comments about Bozo to stay on as a ‘caretaker PM’?! The only caretaker job he is fit for is that of a caretaker in a Scooby Doo episode
until autumn?! Seriously?!
Imagine for a moment that you're Gove. on a day where what? 50 odd ministers and assorted hangers on hand in their resignations, (and get three months pay) You alone get sacked. A friend of a friend works in social housing, and to her astonishment, found Gove not only sympathetic to her cause, but listened and acted upon all her recommendations regarding rental housing noting that "for far too long landlords have had it easy" Gone in a moment of Hubris by a man with no dignity...
What a time to be alive
Didn’t Cameron say he’d stay on for a few weeks / months to esnure a smooth transition then walked the next day?
Yeah, even if the reason for departure is a defeat at the polls, then it's hard to stay on. If the reason you're off is that your entire party thinks you a are barefaced liar and dishonourable charlatan, I can't see how you can stick around in a caretaker role.
The other problem is that his hangers-on also stay for months enacting divisive populist policies that will continue to salt the earth for any government that follows.
Has anyone put a call into Big Sam yet?
He wants to stay on as a 'caretaker'. I wouldn't trust him with a bogbrush.
Ramsay Bolton I think.
This is far to believable for comfort ...
Maybe its time we had a military coup. Or civil uprising.
I'm back in the UK for two weeks at the start of August. Willing to lend a hand /chant slogans/throw bricks.
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow.
Very good there BillMC
A leaving present? There's not a lot of point trying to get a promotion at this stage.
Traditionally, the first Cambridge Union debate of the academic year is "This house has confidence in HM Government".
They were struggling for speakers as it was....
OMG. Think it's about time Her Royal Maj sent in the troops to take over until full electoral reform is imposed.
Listening to 5 live is an eye opener, isn’t it…. The great British public.
Ask yourself what type of person has both the time and the inclination to ring up a radio show at 9.30 in the morning?
A friend of a friend works in social housing, and to her astonishment, found Gove not only sympathetic to her cause
I said it earlier, like him or loath him, Gove is an effective minister who knows his brief and works hard. Civil Servants like that sort of thing. Of course he's a snake as well. But Politics. and being the only one of 50-odd to be sacked is at least some form of notoriety in this shambles.
A friend of a friend works in social housing, and to her astonishment, found Gove not only sympathetic to her cause, but listened and acted upon all her recommendations
While I'm not a fan of his at all, he does appear to be quite competent and to throw himself into his brief - and not to be afraid of original thinking.
There's certainly no need to feel sorry for him anyway, he'll be back.
Ask yourself what type of person has both the time and the inclination to ring up a radio show at 9.30 in the morning?
I don't know, but there are some even worse people who get out of bed in time to ring Jeremy Vine.
Here is my suggestion for a solution. Boris goes today and Queenie takes over until the Tories can find a reasonable one to run the show. Granted she might not last that long but it gets BJ out of the way now. And Nicola can have a word with her about the next referendum too.
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow
s****
You alone get sacked. A friend of a friend works in social housing, and to her astonishment, found Gove not only sympathetic to her cause, but listened and acted upon all her recommendations regarding rental housing noting that “for far too long landlords have had it easy”
Gove was one of the few competent ministers who knew what he was doing. TBH if he were the next PM labour would have a major problem. He won't be due to his penchant for sex and drugs, but he's one of the few in the cabinet who could actually do the job at an operational level.
Imagine for a moment that you’re Gove. on a day where what? 50 odd ministers and assorted hangers on hand in their resignations
It was reported that Gove gave Johnson until 9pm to resign with the assumption otherwise he would.
Johnson sacked him just before 9pm.
And Nicola can have a word with her about the next referendum too.
I'd like a second referendum and apparently I haven't got the law on my side to do that, can you help, you're the Queen after all?
Andrew wants to go to pizza express for his birthday and seems to think I can make that work too.
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow
s****
That went straight over my head, but the penny has dropped. Very good😂
Gove was one of the few competent ministers who knew what he was doing.
His success rate is so so. He doesnt seem great at considering anything other than his own personal experience as being right. So on the occasions those personal experiences were right he did well but other times it all fell to bits.
A friend of a friend works in social housing, and to her astonishment, found Gove not only sympathetic to her cause, but listened and acted upon all her recommendations
I've heard exactly the same from people in environmental charities about when he was environment minister
MP on BBC News just now “He got us through Brexit” no he didn’t, we’re still going through it and will continue to do so for decades to come until we rejoin
It's a sad day when it comes to this but
I bloody hope Gove gets it to be honest. Gove for PM!
TBH if he were the next PM labour would have a major problem.
Oh... make that happen... please. I've long considered a Labour majority government a pipe dream in the current day UK... but Gove could actually make it happen.
Finally: Clownfall.
https://twitter.com/sueperkins/status/1544804291281653766?s=20&t=jZs98W3PSzbEQ252SaC0tA
Zahawi's and Donelan's resignation letters are both total BS. "I'll take the post of Exchequer/SoS for Education, provding you resign"? Er. okay.... so why take them if there will be a new PM appointing a new cabinet imminently?
I wonder if they'll draw a salary for the ~18 hours in post?
My only hope is that Boris is intensely bitter about the way he's been ousted, takes it out on the Conservative party and takes it to his grave. On siding with the brexiteers fot his own personal gain he has right royally ****ed this country.
don't think they want him hanging around like a bad odour 😀
https://twitter.com/KwasiKwarteng/status/1544972798044553217
Zahawi’s and Donelan’s resignation letters are both total BS.
Zahawi didnt resign. He just basically said "thanks for the job. Now can you go so I can have yours?"
Who knows what went through Donelans mind though. I guess didnt see the way the wind was blowing and thought he would be hanging on.
Fair point. MD is normally quite a canny operator, it is a puzzle.
Here's a thought, Boris obviously going to try and play for a dignified step down while the Tory rebrand and English collective memory reset happens.... If they don't allow that, does that mean Dominic Raab will be PM for the next 3 months? 😄😄
@houns re Brexit - spot on. As a business owner that imports and exports, i can categorically tell you that Brexit has NOT worked and is strangling the economy. There have been precisely zero benefits that i am aware of. Boris and his clan have made a balls of this country (albeit started by Cameron) and now he should be held to account.
I wonder if that visit from Dorries was the final blow.
It’s nice that Johnson is now on the receiving end of something that’s hard for him to swallow.
That went straight over my head
He's under a lot of pressure.
It seems like pretty much nobody is happy about Boris loitering around until October as some kind of 'caretaker'. The title in itself is ludicrous
Can't see it happening
Boris and his clan have made a balls of this country (albeit started by Cameron) and now he should be held to account.
Boris Johnson Broke Britain.
But he'll never really be held to account. He'll live a comfortable well-off life, with a series of wifes. The attention and validation he wants will carry on, they'll always be Johnson fans as long as he lives. Him and them against the system (even when they are the system). I suspect he'll earn more in his first year after being PM than any of us will in our lifetimes.
It seems like pretty much nobody is happy about Boris loitering around until October as some kind of ‘caretaker’. The title in itself is ludicrous
Can’t see it happening
As I said ealrier, it wouldn't supprise me if teh 1922 go ahead with thier plan on Monday to change the rules to allow another internal tory VONC, and then hold another VONC.
He doesnt have a functional cabinate at the moment, so something will have to happen.