I think In theory the PM could come from the lords
Yes there is nothing legally blocking it but last time was 1902 and the Lords have steadily lost powers since then.
It doesnt really seem a viable option especially for the tories and their leave Europe to get away from unelected bureaucrats to then turn round and go for an unelected Lord.
Stand as an MP in an English seat
Any UK seat surely?
good point. although the tories have said on many occasions post devolution that the PM should come from England but no legal requirement of course
Any UK seat surely?
There is no seat in Scotland secure enough for any of the major parties that a party leader could be sure of getting re-elected. See Jo Swinson.
Can't see a Tory MP standing in NI, somehow.
I guess he should have said English or Welsh seats.
Sure, I appreciate it wouldn’t likely happen, but legally any UK MP could be PM.
TGA is correct of course
I can see a total wipeout in Scotland for the tories at the next election - unless we get another labour / tory pact
Sorry for the Torygraph link but even they are now quoting the damning evidence that BJ is going to have to face up to very shortly.
TWITTER.COM 😀 a good end to the weekend reading that
That Covid Sainthood/Martyr Boris dodged a while back is probably looking like a missed opportunity to a lot of Tory MPs right now.
A nice stiff Brompton Cocktail served by Rees Mogg, the political equivalent of his Service Revolver....
greyspoke
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Why is that duckers?
She has an explosive temper and an eternal hatred of anybody she feels has slighted her that goes WAY beyond usual political bickering.
The tory party purges he initiated mean there's only sychophants and fruitloops left. He's done a really number on them; Unfortunately, the consensus-free factions are supposed to govern a diverse country.
Now Johnson has belatedly ordered an inquiry into the allegations made by Nusrat Ghani. I wonder if this will include speaking to their muslim MPsand staff? The last inquiry into islamophobia didn't
I do not understand why folk like her and Warsi can be in the tory party given the overt racism
Even worse, it’s been there for ever, in plain sight, right through the whole “Labour Anti Semetism “ clusterf@@k.
Bojo:- you need to make a formal complaint
MP:- ok because I’m a Muslim I’m being discriminated against
Bojo:- if you make this formal it’ll destroy your career
MP:- ok i wont
Bojo press statement:- MP was told to make a formal complaint but didn't.
A depressing but true article in this mornings Guardian about the damage Boris Johnson has done to our entire political system
Distrust, disengagement and discord will be the disgraceful legacy of Boris Johnson
Ordering an inquiry is just a way of punting an issue away so Johnson can look like he's taking action and say 'we need to wait for the results of the inquiry' whenever he is pressed on it.
I do not understand why folk like her and Warsi can be in the tory party given the overt racism
Do you think that as an anti-immigration right-wing brexiteer Nusrat Ghani would be happier in the Labour Party?
I do not understand why folk like her and Warsi can be in the tory party given the overt racism
Better opportunities for grift in Nusrat Ghani's case it would appear.
THEGUARDIAN.COM Although she's an amateur compared to many in the Tory party.
Even worse, it’s been there for ever, in plain sight, right through the whole “Labour Anti Semetism “ clusterf@@k.
Yup and our media across the spectrum have been utterly complicit in allowing them to totally get away with it while vilifying Labour incessantly. Our system is screwed.
Do you think that as an anti-immigration right-wing brexiteer Nusrat Ghani would be happier in the Labour Party?
Good point - but I just cannot see why someone who is muslim can contort their position to be in an overtly racist / islamophobic party. Just seems weird to me to be a part of an organisation that discriminates on the basis of your religion. Its not like the islamophobia in the tory party is hidden or not widely known
People are weird i guess
Ordering an inquiry is just a way of punting an issue away so Johnson can look like he’s taking action and say ‘we need to wait for the results of the inquiry’ whenever he is pressed on it.
Doesn't he realise that he can only kick the can so far down the road though? It seems as though Sue Gray's report is going to go pretty badly for him, I don't really see what he can do following it's publication.
Or perhaps I am naïve and he won't release the majority of the report, then order an inquiry into why the report wasn't released?
She has an explosive temper and an eternal hatred of anybody she feels has slighted her that goes WAY beyond usual political bickering.
Ah OK, I hadn't picked that up, not that I follow Scottish politics that closely.
Klunk
Free Memberthe trap was set for Johnson alone, the beauty of it is the tory party have so far collectively decided to be ensnared by it too.
When we look back on this, that's the thing that'll seem weirdest of all. For all my life, the Tories have been the masters of ditching their lame dog PMs and having their replacement pretty much lined up, and making sure that whatever happened to the person on the top the party would prosper. But now it's completely the opposite, they seem intent on keeping the leader in no matter how much it harms the party.
And as you say the trap was for Johnson alone- I thought they were making an arse of it because Johnson could have just stepped down and instantly it'd be new broom and the anointed new leader would start with a clean sheet and it'd all have to be done again. But miraculously the Tories have taken Labour's soggy carrot and done everything they can to turn it into a stake to the heart.
But miraculously the Tories have taken Labour’s soggy carrot and done everything they can to turn it into a stake to the heart.
Loving that metaphor!
A depressing but true article in this mornings Guardian about the damage Boris Johnson has done to our entire political system
I'm just waiting for them to ignore the findings of any inquiry, declare Boris as Leader Forever, divide the nation up into Tribunes and have done with it. Gove could then reward the winners with that year's Levelling-Up fund.
But miraculously the Tories have taken Labour’s soggy carrot and done everything they can to turn it into a stake to the heart.
Loving that metaphor!
Yeah, that one deserves a round of applause. 👏🏼
An anti-fraud Lord (& friend of Gove & Truss) has just resigned thanks to (Sunak's) failure to go after covid loan fraud, citing
Arrogance, indolence, ignorance", "schoolboy errors", and "nothing less than woeful".
Which is pretty much Johnsons personal motto
BBC.CO.UK The problem with going after those Covid loan frauds is that the staff doing it didn't appear out of thin air. They were taken away from their usual (HMRC) roles.
If you've got £4bn in Covid fraud back but lost £5bn that you would have got otherwise, how do you get that past the NAO or Parliamentary Treasury Committee?
(Playing Devil's Advocate slightly, but welcome to post austerity public services)
An anti-fraud Lord (& friend of Gove & Truss) has just resigned thanks to (Sunak’s) failure to go after covid loan fraud, citing
Would that be Lord Agnew who (checks notes) referred friends to the VIP procurement channel? That Lord Agnew the hypocritical ****!
Have we done Bozza's (alleged) surprise birthday party as organised by Carrie yet?
No, but we should…
A bit thin that more cash considering the government spend huge sums on chasing benefit "fraud" which gains less than a 10 % return ie its ten times what they spend on it to the amount reclaimed compared to spending much less on tax fraud where they gain more than they spend
It's my party and I'll lie if I want to, lie if I want to, lie if I want to.,
You would lie too if it happened to you.
A bit thin that more cash considering the government spend huge sums on chasing benefit “fraud” which gains less than a 10 % return ie its ten times what they spend on it to the amount reclaimed compared to spending much less on tax fraud where they gain more than they spend
I did say that it was slightly Devils Advocate, and Covid fraud I would have thought should be "lower hanging fruit" than some of the tax evasion we try and chase down.
A solution for Sue Gray… or she’ll never finish her report…
If that is Johnson's own handwriting it's terrible. Can't start each line in the same place, not even remotely straight on the page and it just gets worse as it gets towards the end. How many attempts did he have at writing that without crossings out, spelling mistakes and it actually being legible? Mind you, he probably wrote it after a party and was pissed.
It certainly now looks like it’d be quicker to investigate any days during 2020 when there wasn’t a party going on at number 10
It certainly now looks like it’d be quicker to investigate any days during 2020 when there wasn’t a party going on at number 10
Bunga Bunga
I am beginning to think he might just resign. The pressure on him must be immense and surely even a man as arrogant as him cannot believe he has done no wrong or can bluff it out. the way its all coming out day by day its utterly hilarious. How long before the men in grey suits pay him a visit and tell him to resign for the good of the party party!
This appears to really hammer the nail in on any excuses the corrupt shower have
He'll just blame Carrie for the birthday party as it was a surpirse so he couldnt have been expected to know what was going on... question is will he ask her to resign!?!
He’ll just blame Carrie for the birthday party as it was a surpirse so he couldnt have been expected to know what was going on… question is will he ask her to resign!?!
Well, they've bread now so she's on borrowed time anyway - I suspect she entered into this marr... business with her eyes open and will be well compensated by the tax payer.
