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It all seems to be based on his use of the words pickaninny and watermelon smiles (none of which is particularly racist)
Try using that language in a pub in, for example, Moss side. I suspect that, at a minimum, there will be a liquid diet required for several weeks if one survives the experience.
Presumably theres been a run on commons headed notepaper so theyre having to do them 5 at a time
https://twitter.com/DominicPenna/status/1544673877393129473
“why did we leave in the first place?”
So that Boris Johnson could claim the title of Prime Minister. It was debate he felt he could win, and use to get himself the big title. Past the point of winning, he had absolutely nothing to offer the country once in the post beyond making sure we left. Absolutely nothing. He had no plan at all. He never did.
So who do we think then?
Truss
Javid with sunak back at number 11
Dorries entirely by accident?
Gove
Patel I can see trying for it but being too much even for the Conservative party.
And another:
Breaking Another minister resigns
Mims Davies is the latest minister to quit. She was employment minister at the Department for Work and Pensions.
She says the Conservative party "needs a fresh start and I can see no other way forward than this".
That takes the total ministers and aides who have quit to 27.
Gove a back stabbing, two-faced traitor? No! What a surprise...
Quote on Times Radio this morning “Boris’s favourite mode of transport is the seat of his pants”
I think this could happen fast now.
So erm will he be turning up to this liason committee thing?
I really really want him to cling on to the absolute bitter end
Well at last I can say I watched Johnson's last PMQ's live. Was worth it too.
Who's going to twist the knife? Gove looks like he's doing his best. Raab? Needs a Secretary of State to finish the job.
Dorries entirely by accident?
Joke candidates have won leadership elections in the past.
Javid with Sunak back at number 11
That's where my money would be.
Though Hunt has been playing the long game for a while so I'm not sure I'd bet against him either.
He’s already lost 2 SOS’s Sunak and Javid.
I really really want him to cling on to the absolute bitter end
I think Johnson wants to as well.
And Gove only wrote to me the other day saying.....
"You will now know that the Prime Minster has secured the support of the Party and I know that he now feels an even greater weight of responsibility to deliver on the priorities of the British people: to ease the hardship caused by the rising cost of living, to protect our nation from the aftershocks of Covid, to stand firm against Putin’s aggression, and to unite and level up across our United Kingdom. He has my full support in this.
Thank you again for contacting me."
What a surprise. I never thought he was listening to me. Perhaps it was my reply to this load of crap that made the difference 🙂
So who do we think then?
Nobody who has been a senior member of this cabinet
I think the Tories will revert to type this time around and elect someone nobody expects like they did with Cameron and Major
Even disgraced former defence secretary dr liam fox is sticking the boot in now
Even 'Honest Bob' Jenrick has told him to go. Imagine him passing moraljudgement on you?
I really really want him to cling on to the absolute bitter end
I think we can take that as a given. Remember the Waco siege? We might be in for rerun
1922 committee will give him a choice,
Maybe it doesn't even have to come to that. In the last confidence vote the only people who supported him pretty much were people who had a government job - ministers, junior ministers, PPSs etc. of which there are loads. By nature of having that job they were pretty much prevented them from voting against him because that vote would be a defacto resignation. Now that dozens of those people have resigned anyway the PM only really has the choice of 'people who voted against him in a no confidence vote' in the pool of people to chose from to fill those vacancies. If there are enough vacancies he just wont be able to fill them.
oooh hes turned up to the liason committee!!
hes going to try & brass it out!!
Of course he has, There's reports that he'll even contest a 1922 challenge, as he thinks he still has the support of "the majority of MPs"
So that Boris Johnson could claim the title of Prime Minister. It was debate he felt he could win, and use to get himself the big title. Past the point of winning, he had absolutely nothing to offer the country once in the post beyond making sure we left. Absolutely nothing. He had no plan at all. He never did.
Yep he got to play PM and wear lots of Hi viz jackets with Prime Minster on, you got the bill.
Would have been cheaper to have paid him £1BN and forgot about it.
I think the Tories will revert to type this time around and elect someone nobody expects like they did with Cameron and Major
Good call, Iain Stewart has a bit of government experience but not in a senior enough role to really be tainted by all this. It would also do a good job of pissing off sturgeon and taking some of the wind for IS out by putting a Scottish MP in the top job, both of which will sell well to a chunk of the party.
We're going to end up with 100 yr old Lords and Baronesses as Senior ministers, while junior slots are filled by staff from the canteen as well as cardboard cutouts of Dominic Raab.
Performance of the gov. could actually increase.
cardboard cutouts of Dominic Raab
They'd be an improvement over the real one
I think the Tories will revert to type this time around and elect someone nobody expects like they did with Cameron and Major
Knowing our luck it will be Fabricant or Francois
Do you think someone will supply the handgun as well
He would shoot the messenger, drink the whisky and then blame the messenger for it.
I'd have an outside bet on my local - Alex Chalk. Mostly anonymous but well considered within the party if any of the response last night was genuine, not close enough to be truly tarnished and young, clever and thrusting enough to be acceptable to the true blue brigade.
Wafer thin majority though . . . . .
He’s already lost 2 SOS’s Sunak and Javid.
When you're fighting the Hydra, two is never enough. Meant ANOTHER SoS 😀
By nature of having that job they were pretty much prevented them from voting against him because that vote would be a defacto resignation.
Not in a party confidence vote, that was a secret ballot so they could vote however they wanted.
If he's subject to a parliamentary vote then in principal yes they have to resign first.
If there is another VOC and he looses, what happens?
Is it certain that he will automatically resign or do they have to call in the RAF who machine gun him from Sopwith Camels whilst he swings from the top of Big Ben with Carrie in his hand?
Seriously. Is he fired or can he "zombie it out"?
I wonder if he'll last the week?
I wonder if he’ll last the
weeknight?
Has Carrie resigned yet?
I wonder if he’ll last the
weeknight?
At this rate.... hour?
When he finally goes, I'm wondering what other skeletons will be brought out the closet while the press is in a feeding frenzy to 'get it done'...from BloJo and from other.
Has Carrie resigned yet?
Zac apparently may know.
Wafer thin majority though . . . . .
Plenty of seats where that's not the case to shuffle a sitting pm off to
Seriously. Is he fired or can he “zombie it out”?
The tories dont seem to have anything beyond "new leadership contest and current PM isnt allowed to stand" so by default I think he stays.
Which is what happened with both Cameron and May (latter being especially relevant).
Well he now has a legacy to look back on, maybe thats enough? Even if it is for the most resignations in a 24hr period. . .
another pps resignation
Plenty of seats where that’s not the case to shuffle a sitting pm off to
If they were a popular pm then yes. In Johnsons case I think they would say no or accidently mix things up and have him standing in Liverpool, Walton.
Not in a party confidence vote, that was a secret ballot so they could vote however they wanted.
Waited till he and his close entourage were out the country before gathering to plan the coup de grâce
At this rate…. hour?
Well he's being grilled by Chairs of the Select Committees for two hours. Would be a dramatic irony for him to resign on air in front of them.
Plenty of seats where that’s not the case to shuffle a sitting pm off to
If they were a popular pm then yes. In Johnsons case I think they would say no or accidently mix things up and have him standing in Liverpool, Walton.
Sorry that was in reference to
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I’d have an outside bet on my local – Alex Chalk. Mostly anonymous but well considered within the party if any of the response last night was genuine, not close enough to be truly tarnished and young, clever and thrusting enough to be acceptable to the true blue brigade.Wafer thin majority though . . . . .
As for Boris I can't see him holding his seat if we get a GE any time in the foreseeable
Today I wouldn't be surprised, thing are just moving that quickly.
1922 committee is at 5PM, that is, in fairness, the most likely time for them to put him out of his misery.
I've never enjoyed politics more. 🙂
I’ve never enjoyed politics more.
Got GCN+ in one window and various politics feeds in others. Not a good day for work rate 🙂
Somehow this is better than I ever imagined!
Tory party "Getting Boris Done"
I suppose it proves that people will put up with a lying useless piece of shit PM for around 2 years these days. Pretty long time when it would have taken me two minutes.
I think it proves what we all knew that most (all?) Tory MP's are self serving scumbags.
Huge numbers back Johnson right up to the point that it looks like it going to look irretrievably bad for them to back him and then they all jump.
I do however echo what many are saying. He won't resign, so it's time to see if there is a mechanism for deposing him against his will.
He won’t resign, so it’s time to see if there is a mechanism for deposing him against his will.
Should be one about 17:30 after the 1922 Committee have finished changing their Leadership rules. In that time one can assume that every resignation has cc'd the committee their letter of no confidence. A further VoNC tonight or tomorrow and done.
so it’s time to see if there is a mechanism for deposing him against his will.
Some sort of malfunctioning parachute and a ride in a Lancaster, perhaps?
First test candidate after recommissioning The Human Trebuchet?
Publicity trip to the North Pole by skidoo with leaky fuel tank?
I have a letter from Suella Braverman that was sent to me earlier this year when I asked her to justify a number of her, and the Tory party's activities on various matters, she is my local MP. In it she states that Boris has 100% of her support, and she knows he is the right person for the job under these current trying circumstances.
I am now just waiting to bring it out for her to see.
finished changing their Leadership rules.
I predict something along the lines of :
The rules exist to prevent a small minority in the party continually harrying a leader with spurious votes. Never before have we been in the position where a majority of members have submitted letters. At this stage the rules relating to a VoNC do not apply as no further vote is required - it is clear the leader has lost the confidence of the party and he is removed from post effectively immediately, a leadership contest has been triggered and the deputy leader will take on the duties of leader until the outcome of that contest.
Sky is reporting that the 1922 will offer him the chance to resign before they change the rules.
So it’s discharge with or without “honours”, his choice.
So it’s discharge with or without “honours”, his choice.
Honours, there's an interesting choice of word. Can we see him being elevated after all this?
He won't resign until it's absolutely, undeniably impossible for him to continue.
But it looks like he's going to reach that point within the next few hours.
What fun.
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Honours, there’s an interesting choice of word. Can we see him being elevated after all this?
Of course we can, he "got Brexit done". You just have to ignore that Brexit is still a complete shit show
It will be such a shame that he wasn't even pm as long as May and way short of Cameron.
Cabinet Ministers off to tell Johnson to go.
In an seemingly off the cuff moment in todays select committee chairs' meeting Johnson admitted that while he was Foreign Sec he met an ex-KGB (if there can be such a thing) agent in Italy without accompaniment of FCO officials and coming straight from a NATO summit about Russia and the Salisbury poisonings.
In any other world...
While we all get excited by this, can we remember that all of this is as a result of a lying, selfish, randy toff who is significantly responsible for the crappy place we find our nation in at the moment.
Wow Johnson just threatening his MPs with a GE ?
Meanwhile Zahawi reported to have turned on Johnson after accepting chancellor's job!
His performance at the Liaison Committee is wonderfully bad.
Wragg is really putting him through it
This committee hearing is an absolute car crash.
Any of yesterdays brief faux humility is long gone. It’s back to bluff, bluster, arrogance and pomposity, lying through his teeth at every turn.
Nobody is having any of it!
His comment about meeting lebedev in Italy was in response to persistent direct questions.
Yep. Still making jokes and blustering. He’s away with the fairies.
While we all get excited by this, can we remember that all of this is as a result of a lying, selfish, randy toff who is significantly responsible for the crappy place we find our nation in at the moment.
Quite a charming lying, selfish, randy toff though. I'm not sure you can blame everything on him. Even if he is a tory.
GE PLEASE!
This isn't an act, he is just coked of his tits constantly
He’s getting torn a new one
It's cracking entertainment. I hope he holds on as long as possible.
3 cabinet ministers including Zahawi. can't buy loyalty now
Men in grey suits, including chief whip, apparently congregating at No.10. Defenestration is imminent!
Where are you all watching this?
Meanwhile,
The Telegraph @Telegraph
54 minutes ago
Boris Johnson hangs by a thread as resignations continue - live updates
Boris Johnson suffered a fresh ministerial resignation this morning as the Prime Minister struggles to stabilise his ailing premiership
I can only assume that brexit has made it difficult to import rope.
Meanwhile Zahawi reported to have turned on Johnson after accepting chancellor’s job!
I've been waiting for the fall of Boris for such a long time and so far it's been absolutely cracking. What a finale! Far more satisfying then Game of Thrones.
The Blue Wedding?