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The fact that the Big Dog’s only remaining defence is semantics tells you everything you need to know


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 8:34 pm
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I'm going to wait until he 'considers the matter closed'. That will be good enough for me, obviously. 🙂


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 8:52 pm
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Arguably, showing loyalty to ‘the boss’ is a desirable trait in these career politicians who are unlikely to ever get the top job. It doesn’t matter who the boss is, the next one will understand that they can be loyal puppets. It’s only the few with leadership ambitions that will feel the need to detach themselves from Boris.

Just like working at a corporate.

I'm no good at it, probably why I've been "let go" 6 times - but I am good at been "let go" 🙂


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 9:58 pm
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Posted : 17/01/2022 11:37 pm
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Newsnight interview with andrew bridgen now - noises off and placards behind him; hilarious.


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 11:44 pm
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Comedy Gold. But the guy behind seems to be ignoring the message from Bridgen that supports his demonstration. Inconvenient.


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 11:46 pm
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Well, yes but as you say...Comedy Gold.


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 11:47 pm
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nick ^^^ up there; what's the problem with DB suits?
I love them and couldn't be further removed from charles or the moggster.


 
Posted : 17/01/2022 11:58 pm
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It was Steve Bray wasn't it? Max respect

The Peter bone interview after was insane. Complete fiction and delivered in an uncharacteristically upbeat way. Like a cult member


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:00 am
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nick ^^^ up there; what’s the problem with DB suits?
I love them and couldn’t be further removed from charles or the moggster.

they're part of thier uniform, dictated by custom and protocol.

it's not a taste or fashion thing


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:10 am
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Yes, it was Steve Bray.
As for peter bone - weird interview with very weird individual.
Anyone watch mad nad in parliament today?
Nadine Dorries, culture secretary; contradiction in terms.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:13 am
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What’s the problem with DB suits?

Wearing double-breasted suits is very much like making love to a beautiful woman…


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:25 am
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Aah binners, it's what you've always wanted - DB tonik in silver grey; working cuffs, pleated trousers, brace buttons.
Own up.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:27 am
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Thought Johnson was meant to be isolating, not jogging?


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 6:50 am
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Those may be the rules for _normal_ people…


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 7:51 am
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He doesn't have to isolate under the rules, he chose to. He can to out whenever he wants.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 7:58 am
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Nadine Dorries, culture secretary; contradiction in terms.

Culture here refers to what happens on agar plates.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 8:13 am
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nick ^^^ up there; what’s the problem with DB suits?
I love them and couldn’t be further removed from charles or the moggster.

Ordinary folk had stopped wearing them by the early 90's, the more smartly dressed of us had moved on to 3 piece 🙂

Wearing a DB now is as others have said, a 'uniform', much like wearing badly fitting ones (on purpose). I use to work for an company where the Partners (Big Six) never wore belts, it was just a part of the 'uniform'. Shabby fold back cuffs on tailored shirts are another 'sign'.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 8:15 am
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Get some literature in ya heathens ; you have to learn how to wear your clothes.

George Orwell on Belonging to England's Lower Upper Middle Class in the 1920s
George Orwell:

George Orwell - The Road to Wigan Pier - Chapter 8:

I was born into what you might describe as the lower-upper-middle class. The upper-middle class... the layer of society lying between L2000 and L300 a year: my own family was not far from the bottom....

Before the war you were either a gentleman or not a gentleman, and if you were a gentleman you struggled to behave as such, whatever your income might be....

People in this class owned no land, but they felt that they were landowners in the sight of God and kept up a semi-aristocratic outlook by going into the professions and the fighting services rather than into trade. Small boys used to count the plum stones on their plates and foretell their destiny by chanting, 'Army, Navy, Church, Medicine, Law'....

To belong to this class when you were at the L400 a year level was a queer business, for it meant that your gentility was almost purely theoretical. You lived, so to speak, at two levels simultaneously. Theoretically you knew all about servants and how to tip them, although in practice you had one, at most, two resident servants. Theoretically you knew how to wear your clothes and how to order a dinner, although in practice you could never afford to go to a decent tailor or a decent restaurant. Theoretically you knew how to shoot and ride, although in practice you had no horses to ride and not an inch of ground to shoot over. It was this that explained the attraction of India (more recently Kenya, Nigeria, etc.) for the lower-upper-middle class. The people who went there as soldiers and officials did not go there to make money...

they went there because in India, with cheap horses, free shooting, and hordes of black servants, it was so easy to play at being a gentleman.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 8:55 am
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they went there because in India, with cheap horses, free shooting, and hordes of black servants, it was so easy to play at being a gentleman.

And now they drive around in SUV's on PCP...


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 9:01 am
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Aah binners, it’s what you’ve always wanted – DB tonik in silver grey; working cuffs, pleated trousers, brace buttons.
Own up.

Curses! Busters again! 😃

Raabs turn as human shield on this mornings media rounds. He’s being even more evasive than Zahawi yesterday.

Or he’s trying to, at least

The trouble is that he’s not very bright

https://twitter.com/peterstefanovi2/status/1483342171696734208?s=21

So it’s pretty obvious by now that Big Dog is planning to brazen it out, no matter what the report says

No surprises there then?


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 9:24 am
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To be honest this is great, it really shows the greater electorate what a bunch of lying cheating tossers that they are... I don't know why people are in such a rush to replace Boris, because the longer he stays in power the worse it is for the Conservatives come the next election.

JeZ


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 9:49 am
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My sentiments exactly.

The ideal scenario is for him to be challenged for the leadership, win the vote by a whisker after a viscous campaign where they fight like rats in a sack, then he’s ‘safe’ for a year

A fat, impotent lump, universally derided and mistrusted by all but a few, hunkered down in the number ten bunker with no authority to do anything, as the Tory’s vote share heads south and the internal civil war rumbles on

It'd be a year of total chaos, no doubt, but it would be anyway with this shower at the helm and at least we'll likely have a non-Tory government at the end of it


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 9:55 am
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I love them and couldn’t be further removed from charles or the moggster.

Sure, but presumably you're Non-U? So what you wear is irrelevant. That you may get it right, but don't understand why, leads one into jokes about talking dogs.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 10:04 am
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I heard 'errmm urrr ummmm errr' Raab on R4, it wasn't as bad as that Sky one earlier but he got cornered into admitting that if the PM has lied he'll have to resign.

I could feel his forehead vein bulging on the radio

I know the cabinet must be desperate not to do this interviews but was Raab the best they could do?

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1483352842480066562?t=AnqdTOLDszQtJMAbUn625Q&s=19


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 10:06 am
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I know the cabinet must be desperate not to do this interviews but was Raab the best they could do?

I think it is definitely a catch 22.
If you are good enough to be able to handle the interview then you are going to be good enough to be busy washing your hair/get the lft test and a red marker pen/deliberately infect yourself with ebola.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 10:14 am
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The only thing that will remove Johnson from his position for lying to parliament is his conservative MP colleagues. There is no legal or judicial process that can remove him. The body of eccentric tradition that passes for our Constitution is wide open to be ignored by a leader prepared to do it..so long as he has enough folk near him prepared to back him up.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 10:20 am
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The body of eccentric tradition that passes for our Constitution is wide open to be ignored by a leader prepared to do it..so long as he has enough folk near him prepared to back him up.

And that's the rub. Everyones getting excited about a leadership challenge, but that would merely require 54 letters to the 1922 committee, so only needs 54 disgruntled Tory MP's. Thats the easy bit. Theres a good number of backbenchers who appear to exist in a state of permanent apoplectic anger anyway, no matter whats going on.

But to then actually remove Johnson would require 182(?) Tory MP's to vote against him in that leadership election and transfer their votes to somebody else. That would require a 'unity' candidate to galvanise a vote for someone they think would do a better job. There is absolutely no sign of that.

So far, the Tory MPS who are, according to the press, already apparently mobilising for an upcoming leadership election are:

Liz Truss
Rishi Sunak
Penny Mordaunt
Dominic Raab
Tom Tugendhat
Jeremy Hunt
Sajid Javid
Priti Patel
Michael Gove
Nadhim Zahawi

Does any of that look like 'unity' to you?

Me neither. It'd certainly be entertaining, in a car crash sort of way, watching that horrific lot fight like rats in a sack, all while Boris digs in. I can't imagine its going to be very beneficial for the rest of us.

Once again we'll have to sit impotently at the mercy of a power struggle in the Tory party, then have a PM imposed on us by a few thousand racist pensioners from Surrey. And that PM could well be the one we've already got. Boris clearly knows that, hence the usual Johnsonite approach of brazening it out. I doubt thats going to change.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:08 am
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..and he'll add 'triumphed in a leadership challenge' to the Got Brexit Done, Got Covid Beat delusional entries on his CV


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:28 am
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it's funny, Cummings has set the perfect trap for Boris, watching him fall headlong into it the Tory party have dived in after him.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:40 am
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and he’ll add ‘triumphed in a leadership challenge’ to the Got Brexit Done, Got Covid Beat delusional entries on his CV

Much like Trump got off two impeachments and therefore regards himself as innocent / victim of a witch-hunt. If you're going to take someone down, best be sure that they're going to fall. Not just rock back and forth on the pedestal a bit before settling back upright.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 11:50 am
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So... they've being lying (covering up) about all the traveling between the Downing Street flat and Chequers during lockdowns... 🤷🏻 ...I mean, if they'd been transparent about it all before, people would no doubt be more understanding of their "one rule for us" attitude... it's the cover up that's going to feed into the steady decline of the liar in chief.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:13 pm
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Operation Red Meat is starting to look decidedly vegan 🤣

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1483392255809531908?s=20


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 12:44 pm
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Ahh not using the sonic weapons after all then 🙂


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:10 pm
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Cummings is relentless and, no doubt, a smarter operative than Johnson. There will only be one winner here and my money is on Cummings


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:13 pm
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Binners - you have not quite understood  the way tories elect leader or perhaps expressed it properly

If the 54 letters go in its a "vote of no confidence" and he needs to get more than the 182 mps to back him

If he loses then it goes to a contest whee the tory MPs vote on a successor which is a "devil take the hindmost" vote - so if 6 candidates the one with the lowest vote drops out then they vote again on the 5 and lowest drops out until its down to two - then those two go to a vote of the membership


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:17 pm
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https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=609672880122761
Led By Donkeys nailing it.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:22 pm
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I have had a bit of a re-think. I do feel sorry for him existing in the way he does because it can't be much fun. But I feel far more sorry for the millions of people whose lives he has affected and will effect for years to come.
I don't really care about Downing Street staff holding a party the night before DofE's funeral and I expect politicians to lie and be hypocrites but this is getting a bit much now. I had kind of forgotten about Brexit too! It's all we heard at one time and now it's all CV. Not that there's not lots of consequences to come as a result of it of course.
I just wish BJ had never come into existence. I mean, I wish people would think if they are likely to produce decent offspring before they breed. Don't suppose that will ever happen.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:39 pm
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Looking forward to all the Downfall memes.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:46 pm
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It now appear that the warning to Reynolds was done via email so there is a record - and it is inconceivable that Reynolds did not check with Johnson after the warning and I would very much doubt that Reynolds will lie to Gray especially as he is clearly being set up as the fall guy


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:50 pm
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and it is inconceivable that Reynolds did not check with Johnson after the warning and I would very much doubt that Reynolds will lie to Gray especially as he is clearly being set up as the fall guy

This brings to mind the phone hacking scandal. The idea that any editor of a national newspaper would publish a sensitive story without first checking where the journalist was getting their information from was always absolutely preposterous. It would simply never, ever happen.

This is exactly the same. Its absolutely laughable that they're even thinking of running with this as a defence


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 2:58 pm
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Boris Johnson has "categorically" denied he was warned a drinks party in the No 10 garden risked breaking lockdown rules.

"Nobody warned me that it was against the rules," the prime minister said, adding: "I would have remembered that."

This does feel a bit like the end of decent game of chess. Johnson has been steered right in to a trap. Someone just needs to produce an email and it would be checkmate. The question then is whether or not Johnson sees it like that and quits.


 
Posted : 18/01/2022 3:07 pm
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Johnson looked awful in that interview, cant decide if hes deliberately trying to look contrite or just in a complete shambles

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1483439540056567812


 
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