“I believed implicitly that this was a work event.”
What is it to “believe implicitly”..?
David Allen Green has been on this too. The word 'implicitly' has cropped up repeatedly - it's obviously something he's been told to say by a lawyer. But no-one knows what it's supposed to mean. Clearly some terribly cunning get out of jail clause
What is it with his early morning runs in St.James's park, surely they're just a photo op and nothing esle.
He goes out running earing a British Rail hat, a woolly jumper, polka dot shorts, and the worst pair of running shoes in the world.
You still get vox pops about him being "a normal down-to-earth bloke"... the attire works well for that. As for the jogging itself... good on him... why shouldn't he?
"believe implicitly" - I think this can mean -" believe without being told"
It can also mean -"be very sure"
He goes out running wearing a British Rail hat, a woolly jumper, polka dot shorts, and the worst pair of running shoes in the world.
He looks like he forgot his PE kit at school
Many possible meanings TJ/doris5000, or none, who knows?
Can you still "believe implicitly" that an event wasn't a party, even if you have been told that it was, and that it shouldn't go ahead because it was? What if you asked your main man to arrange a social get together to celebrate something... can you still "believe implicitly" that it was a work event? And is that even ruling out that you knew that it was an unnecessary social gathering anyway? Word play. Parlour games. Who ate the last slice of Christmas cake..? "I implicitly believed that there was still something left after I took my slice".
What is it with his early morning runs in St.James’s park, surely they’re just a photo op and nothing esle.
He goes out running earing a British Rail hat, a woolly jumper, polka dot shorts, and the worst pair of running shoes in the world.
Its a funny one as most famous people could actually jog by you and you'd never notice.
You’d think they’d have learnt their lesson by now, wouldn’t you?
Arguably, showing loyalty to 'the boss' is a desirable trait in these career politicians who are unlikely to ever get the top job. It doesn't matter who the boss is, the next one will understand that they can be loyal puppets. It's only the few with leadership ambitions that will feel the need to detach themselves from Boris.
I'm not expert, but I suspect these people are making calculations about how to appear supportive, not necessarily who to appear supportive to.
Its gotta be some obscure photo op, I do think they attempt to flood the news with crap Boris stories to wash out the important ones.
Sorta a steady stream of crap to dumb the senses/public interest as people just get bored of it and soon its all just noise.
Arguably, showing loyalty to ‘the boss’ is a desirable trait in these career politicians who are unlikely to ever get the top job. It doesn’t matter who the boss is, the next one will understand that they can be loyal puppets. It’s only the few with leadership ambitions that will feel the need to detach themselves from Boris.
I know of a Sicilian firm who operate in a simmilar manner 😉
Kelvin - the phrase does have the feel of lawyer speak / deniability I agree
As P-Jay says, I do wonder if there is more ‘scandal’ being held back ready to drop when Johnson is out of his self-imposed isolation.
FIngers crossed!
It's intriguing, to me anyway. The idea that this is a carefully organised plan by someone outside of Government / Tory Party to oust Johnson is both really interesting and, also a bit scary.
It's fun, to me again at least, to think about Dominic Cummings sat in a darkened room in front of a bank of flickering screens, laughing manically as he traps his old Mate in lie after lie as revenge for his sacking, because as a Centrist / Labour Voter it suits me.
But I wonder, if the other side were in No10 at the moment, would this would feel a lot more like Political espionage? What if we find our in years to come that it's not Dominic Cummings. or a bunch of unrelated scandals coming to light, but the work of China, or Russia, or even the EU? I know that's a real dog whistle for us Remainers, but the idea that allies don't spy and attempt to influence each others home affairs is probably false.
Of course, the simple answer to avoiding all this is to not do stupid, illegal and immoral shit in the first place.
But I wonder, if the other side were in No10 at the moment, would this would feel a lot more like Political espionage? What if we find our in years to come that it’s not Dominic Cummings. or a bunch of unrelated scandals coming to light, but the work of China, or Russia, or even the EU? I know that’s a real dog whistle for us Remainers, but the idea that allies don’t spy and attempt to influence each others home affairs is probably false.
This stems from the fact that Johnsom had outsourced much of his thinking to Cummings, this has left him uniquely vulnerable to this kind of attack
If the security services vetted MPs for suitability to be PM I suspect Johnson would be top of the list (it could well be a long list) for being too venal, lazy, self-serving & compromised to get the job.
It’s fun, to me again at least, to think about Dominic Cummings sat in a darkened room in front of a bank of flickering screens, laughing manically as he traps his old Mate in lie after lie as revenge for his sacking
All Cummings is interested in is watching the world burn.
If he was still in No.10, he'd be doing it from in there with some other scheme where he could believe that he was some kind of 4D chess grandmaster. He reminds me a bit of the Rumplestiltskin character in Shrek Forever After.
Now he's just a bitter ex-No.10-er with an axe to grind. He's very probably got some kind of murky far-right funded dark money behind him somewhere but while he was in No.10 he was also in all the goings-on right up to his neck anyway and much as he might like to claim he told BJ that parties were a bad idea, it's still him sitting there in that photo from above the garden. He's far from innocent in all this, he's just enjoying the chaos. It's what he does - dismantle "the hierarchy". While inside No.10 he was just doing it on behalf of Boris, now he's doing it for whoever else is paying him. No shits given.
Cummings is earning more now on the outside. His blog subscriptions bring in @£250k/yr.
Is there something a tad unpleasant about this Big Dog's Red Meat?
I'd like to subscribe to it but I just cant do it.
Of course, the simple answer to avoiding all this is to not do stupid, illegal and immoral shit in the first place.
Kompromat innit - self inflicted.
wonder how much his subscriptions would bring in when Boris goes? does he want to kill the golden goose?
From Popbitch:
https://what3words.com/input.caring.brain
Seems about right. Do W3W staff get to 'adjust' the words it delivers for comedy value?
The boxes left and right of that one are good too.
He looks like he forgot his PE kit at school
AFAIK he does it on purpose, see endless shots of him running in work shirts and so on. I mean he could easily buy running shorts or whatever, but it suits his image not to. It's the same as the 'combing his hair with a Balloon' thing that he does, carefully and artfully constructed so as to look artfully un-constructed as possible.
Because the important thing is to make it look like you don't care, or that looking like you've made an effort is trying to hard. It's a public school thing.
The boxes left and right of that one are good too.
Someone has definitely been at them.
https://what3words.com/vote.resort.wrong
I'm with whatisname, the longer Johnson is in power and in denial the greater the harm to the tory vote and the greater thew chance we get to lose them come election time.
This has been bolstered it would appear by the group of MP's who came out in support of him, each with their own constituency, each with their own voting group possibly now disenchanted with their MP and wondering if a change of party is what they need.
I'm hearing Mordaunt being touted as the outsider leader candidate
That'd be far too sensible (relative to other options) for the membership
Anyway
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1483122940602425346?t=HUW23YXsk-YlTwCjGak_yg&s=19
HAHA! agree W3W might have been tampered. Me and my son just spent 5 minutes laughing, there's more than a few, if you squint.
Our favourite limp.just.chief is in the No.10 garden.
Implicit.... is being used to defend the PM.
By saying his Implicit understanding of the Parties was that they were work events means his Implicit view was understood though not put clearly into words.
This allows Boris a get out I.e. his Implicit understanding was betrayed by staff. Or in short a C**** trick.
Implicitly understood > explicitly told?
Says it all.
https://what3words.com/clown.obey.heat
https://what3words.com/sheep.engage.ready
There are a few for the Chancellor in no.11, too.
https://what3words.com/spend.agenda.prone
https://what3words.com/slice.fire.weep
If true, these claims are explosive, as would mean PM had lied to House of Commons.
Like most of the days he's been in the House of Commons then.
He lied to the Queen, he lied about Brexit, he lied about his flat refurbishments...
He lies pretty much every time he opens his mouth and so far he's had to suffer almost zero consequences from any of it.
kelvin
Full MemberYou still get vox pops about him being “a normal down-to-earth bloke”… the attire works well for that
He doesn't look like a normal down to earth bloke, he looks like he's escaped from his carer.
Because the important thing is to make it look like you don’t care, or that looking like you’ve made an effort is trying to hard. It’s a public school thing.
This thread is very telling IMO
https://twitter.com/MartinRowson/status/714014055095205888
Not having “special kit” … running in old stuff you’ve repurposed. This act works. Hopefully people will eventually judge him on what he says and does, rather than his brilliant clown act. And it is brilliant. That it doesn’t work on you and me, and that steadily fewer and fewer people are taken in by it, doesn’t mean it hasn’t served him very well up to now.
Cummings is earning more now on the outside. His blog subscriptions bring in @£250k/yr.
And that isnt overly important anyway when you look at the family he married into. Only reason they arent counted as part of the London elite is they own half of the north as well as their London homes.
Re his running kit, mufti I think they call it. But yeah, with BJ, it's definitely done for a purpose.
Dominic Cummings says he will "swear under oath" ...
The trouble is, he's an odious liar, too.*
(*IMHO)
He may be a liar… but the whole “this is just remoaners who never really backed Johnson anyway” narrative falls apart whenever he and many key Eurosceptic Tory MPs join in with the stabbing Johnson in the front thing.
Doesn’t Alexander Boris dePfeffel live in the No.11 flat as it’s bigger? If so https://w3w.co/slurs.this.shark seems appropriate.
Re his running kit, mufti I think they call it.
Mufti is non- uniform, used by Army, from the days where officers would be in slippers and dressing gown, when off duty and in Mess and thus, look like an Arab, or Mufti (Islamic Scholar).
The thing is, that it's important to know when to dress properly and when not, which is why you often see these sorts in tweeds for shooting or hunting - where one is expected to dress properly and when one is doing sports that "non-U" would be seen doing, and thus you must dress incorrectly and shabbily and either 1. still win, or 2. have a handy excuse and a subtle dig..."well of course you beat me, you have all the gear"
Read Mitford, she explains it better, but not a lot has changed for these folks. It's why JRM (like Charles) insists on wearing a double breasted for instance
Apparently, according to the Guardian, Cummings final words to Johnson on leaving Downing Street were “I’ve never briefed against you, but when I do you’ll ****ing know about it!”
I think he’s probably got more to come yet. He’s hinted today that he has photos of the Downing Street ‘work gatherings’
Boris must know what he’s got on him. No wonder he’s conveniently gone into hiding
Scary thought:
What if all of these schemes and distractions work?
I think we’re well past that point now
I hope Boris stays in situ and limps on, looking more desperate and discredited by the day. The scales appear to have belatedly fallen from a lot of people’s eyes
By saying his Implicit understanding of the Parties was that they were work events means his Implicit view was understood though not put clearly into words.
"I implicitly thought" can be viewed two ways. The above - "I did not express that thought but others would have understood that was what I thought from all the circumstances" and the reverse "I was not explicitly told what it was, but I formed the view from all the circumstances that it was..."
I had imagined he meant the latter way round, but I can see now that the former might be intended.
Anyhow, Dangerous Dom has now made it clear that it was discussed explicitly. So implicit it wasn't.
