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Could potentially be a photo from a drone, but I imagine security is good enough to spot that - to me, from the angle, it looks like the picture was taken from an overlooking window/terrace.

Micheal Goves office? hahah!


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 7:16 pm
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Pretty sure it was taken from a rear window in no 11..... Must have been deliberate, not the sort of picture taken for the view that just happened to have Boris in it.


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 7:26 pm
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The vantage-point of the photo can be pinpointed no doubt. It may have been taken with benign intentions. But if taken with ill intent, the photographer would obviously have snuck into a rival's office to take it, so they can be fitted up later if required.


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 7:32 pm
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So Sunak, or someone trying to incriminate Sunak?


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 9:07 pm
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Potentially!

AFAIK the PM lives in the flat above no 11, and the chancellor above number 10.

But Ed Balls doesn't specify whether he's talking about the flat or the office...


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 9:16 pm
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I think the funniest thing here, is not that the picture was taken, it's that it was taken by someone with top access to government shinannigans - this is an inside job for sure.

BoJo is a bit like Gadaffi at the moment, planning his exit and wondering how many of his co-conspiritors have the knives out for him.

It has all the hallmarks of a tinpot dictatorship.


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 9:24 pm
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Yup the paranoia must be intense

A nest of vipers


 
Posted : 20/12/2021 9:44 pm
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Yup the paranoia must be intense

Yep must be great watching the morning papers for another damaging article as another torpedo hits your ship 🙂

Theresa must must be laughing her socks off.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:53 am
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It’s a funny one thou ripping off the people with ppe contracts to friends and family and the fake Brexit done wasn’t the thing that really sank him, even the farce of wallpapergate.

The perceived failure to stick to his own covid rules did him in, but the pics of him in beast party mode haven’t really surfaced.

I suppose arguing and defending ‘no rules have been broken’ in plain sight they have was the straw to far.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 10:12 am
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The difference in expectations of behaviour is staggering. Let’s give them the benefit of doubt and suppose it is a “work meeting” but then consider that in comparison to what is demanded of normal people. Where is it acceptable to drink “at work” these days? Not many places I suggest. A train driver friend of mine talks of the random tests for drugs and drink because he has the safety of several hundred people in his hands. Instant dismissal for not taking that responsibility seriously. If those in the photo are responsible for our safety, should they be drinking? I mean they are looking after 3.9 million each!!!


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 10:48 am
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Let’s give them the benefit of doubt and suppose it is a “work meeting” but then consider that in comparison to what is demanded of normal people. Where is it acceptable to drink “at work” these days? Not many places I suggest.

Agreed. And another thing that no one seems to be picking up on is the sharing of food. One of the many additional tasks I have to do now is manage the risk assessments for our buildings, one of the first control measures our Public Health team insisted on when we were bringing staff into the office was that under no circumstances could food be shared. The extended to not being allowed to make each other drinks etc.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 10:56 am
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I dunno. Spring 2020 wasn't everyone hanging out after work for a few glasses of wine with colleagues, chewing over the events of the day?

(Seems to be the Raaaaab defence)


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 1:13 pm
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He's lost the darts fraternity

https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1473067440623996932?t=QdqTxgQJ--2BtQNFelb8AA&s=19


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 1:25 pm
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I dunno. Spring 2020 wasn’t everyone hanging out after work for a few glasses of wine with colleagues, chewing over the events of the day?

I know, right?


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 1:32 pm
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Yep casette boys dropped one and there is a Christmas song about Boris Johnson.

He seems to have really stirred up a hornets nest.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 4:30 pm
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That Leeds crowd....so simple yet so accurate (in several ways!)


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 4:44 pm
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Leadership bid and right wing tummy tickling ahoy!
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1473287015345098756?s=21


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 5:07 pm
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I'm inclined to think the EU are more concerned with the Good Friday Agreement than this government is.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 5:48 pm
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I’m inclined to think the EU are more concerned with the Good Friday Agreement than this government is.

100%

I mean, I'm sure Liz Truss is very interested in the GFA right now. But only as a means to her own ends. The whole Tory party are really playing the whole 'power hungry sociopath' role beautifully.

Hopefully the BJ fiasco is a lesson in populism. Maybe some good will come of all this.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 6:00 pm
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If the GFA collapsed under the weight of Brexit unicorns tomorrow, I don’t think any of this lot would care less


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 6:04 pm
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Hopefully the BJ fiasco is a lesson in populism. Maybe some good will come of all this.

Hah, yeah. You've met, you know, the public, right?


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 6:05 pm
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interesting that Domonic Cummings has been silent on the no10 garden pic. It's unlike him not to stick it to the johnsons at the first opportunity.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 8:58 pm
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I assumed it was Cummings opposite Alexander in the picture.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:03 pm
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I made the same joke as NRC *checks Fb feed* on 10th May 2020.

Where do I claim my royalties?


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:10 pm
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He’s lost the darts fraternity

Fun unrelated to thread fact....

Pro darts players drink during their game because it steadies their hands.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:18 pm
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I assumed it was Cummings opposite Alexander in the picture.

It is Cummings, but only the organiser is at any risk from plod (not that there's any chance of that)


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:18 pm
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It may well be that the Biden administration also pays attention to the GFA. She's drawn the shit stick.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:20 pm
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He’s lost the darts fraternity

Yeah... But I imagine only because he might threaten their freedom to gather in massive crowds, indoors, to drink and shout and generally infect one another as thoroughly as possible? One of the rare occasions I might actually find myself on BJ's side!


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:27 pm
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If the GFA collapsed under the weight of Brexit unicorns tomorrow, I don’t think any of this lot would care less

We (the country/kingdom) will really be in the shit. The EU and both sides of the USA political mainstream will shun us. All bets would be off as unrest here may well kick off as food and essentials get tight and it's dark and cold in our houses at night.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:30 pm
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If the GFA collapsed under the weight of Brexit unicorns tomorrow, I don’t think any of this lot would care less

Given the fact that Brexit was basically incompatible with GFA right from the start and yet it was so enthusiastically championed, I'm willing to bet that most of them don't even know the details of it, never mind care about it.

The levels of total utter ignorance and stupidity in charge of this country at the moment...?!
That Rees-Mogg cretin has been on again about listening to the will of the people rather than the scientists (Covid rather than Brexit admittedly).

We got where we are by the "will of the people", the last thing we need now is more of that.


 
Posted : 21/12/2021 9:38 pm
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So why is Sunak doing this? He gave the game away earlier this month, with a careful leak to the Times that he intends to cut income tax before the next election (due in 2024). He will only have room to do this if public spending – however valuable – has been tightly reined in. You don’t need to be a political genius to see that Sunak is positioning himself for the next Conservative party leadership election, as the tax-cutting, small-state heir to Margaret Thatcher so fervently longed for by the party’s MPs and members.

The Guardian: In an act of brazen treachery, Rishi Sunak is sabotaging Boris Johnson’s policies.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/22/brazen-treachery-rishi-sunak-sabotaging-boris-johnson-policies

Sunak is effectively undermining every single one of Johnson’s policy priorities. It is surely as brazen an act of political treachery as modern times have seen.


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 12:22 pm
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The Tories truly have turned themselves inside out. They instinctively want to be the party of low tax, low state intervention, even when the country clearly needs more government investment which has to be funded by higher taxes. Covid has exploded this on a big scale.

Tax cuts are always the aim before an election, but if the spending at that point hasn't delivered any benefit in services, opportunities, "levelling up" etc, they are going to leave the opposition some big targets to hit.


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 12:46 pm
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leave the opposition some big targets to hit.

Methinks in this scenario Labour will give away an own goal.


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 12:49 pm
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But I imagine only because he might threaten their freedom to gather in massive crowds, indoors, to drink and shout and generally infect one another as thoroughly as possible?

It's OK they were all on the train I took to Macclesfield the other evening.


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 12:57 pm
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Posted : 22/12/2021 1:56 pm
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His popularity among Conservative activists, according to an influential ConservativeHome survey, has slumped. It puts Johnson on minus 17 per cent, compared with foreign secretary Liz Truss’s plus 82.

"If Boris Johnson is ousted, who might replace him as UK prime minister? | Financial Times" https://www.ft.com/content/f6d9bafe-f5a9-4d63-a672-79949c7f2881

But imo the most serious contender is still Sunak


The 41-year-old has been quietly building up support among Tory MPs from the 2019 intake and listening to their concerns. “I’ve had four one-to-one meetings with him,” said one MP.

Sunak, through anonymous briefings, has “let it be known” to potential supporters that he opposed some of Johnson’s Covid restrictions and that he is frustrated with the lack of professionalism at Number 10.

This is a reasonable assessment imo of Truss though :

https://www.politico.eu/article/liz-truss-brexit-foreign-secretary-brexit-negotiator/


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 3:09 pm
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Sunak's not just on manoevres, he's conducting a full on campaign to oust Johnson, and is using Johnson's keynesian instincts against him..

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/22/brazen-treachery-rishi-sunak-sabotaging-boris-johnson-policies


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 3:32 pm
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and is using Johnson’s keynesian instincts against him..

Yep - there's a good summary, again in the Guardian, of how BJ's once popular traits are now his own downfall:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/22/tories-cake-stuffed-boris-johnson-covid-restrictions-freedom


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 3:35 pm
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Given the fact that Brexit was basically incompatible with GFA right from the start and

Not all Brexits, or indeed any Brexits if appropriate arrangements were made.


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 4:42 pm
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Indeed. It’s been documented now that Johnson (somewhat unsurprisingly) didn’t really understand what he was signing (as that probably would have involved actually reading it)

He clearly didn’t understand the full implications of leaving the single market and customs Union and the need for a hard border.

He believed his own ridiculous cakist nonsense right up until the end. He still doesn’t get it

There will be no significant changes to the agreement no matter how much Liz Truss stamps her feet.

The incompatibility of Brexit promises with reality will mean it will continue to consume its own. Frost is gone, Johnson will be next, then Truss

It’s the rest of us left with their mess


 
Posted : 22/12/2021 5:07 pm
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It has been getting a bit quiet on the johnsonshambles front

Its been 24 hrs since a revelation of his unsuitability for office


 
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