this is not the time to play that card though and they know it.
It's exactly the time to play that card as it supports the effort against the new variant and bolsters the new measures. Without sufficient sick pay the new measures are pointless so why support them without also demanding the necessary support via sick pay for people to isolate? It's a no-brainer, but Starmer is so meek and deferential he can't bring himself to do it. Leadership my arse!
the Lib Dems have just announced they’ll be voting with the Tory Rebels
It's a bit more nuanced than that, they've said they will vote for the new measures, but against Vaccine passports, which they see as an ineffective measure (vaccines don't stop you spreading Covid) that will give more fuel to the anti-vaxers and conspiracy nuts.
See Daisy Cooper's statement in this article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59640792
Lib dems continue their descent into utter obscurity.
All eyes on North Shropshire on Thursday.
All eyes on North Shropshire on Thursday.
After the vox pop on the Today Programme this morning I wouldn’t hold out much hope. It made the vote for the blue rosette brigade round here look positively open minded. Apparently Boris is a nice honest boy who is making lots of good decisions and he is being slandered by the press, labour party, and the over educated elite (I’m guessing they were setting the boundary around mid grade GCSE level)
Polls are neck and neck.
I genuinely wouldn't want to call it either way, and that alone is a pretty crazy thing to say in part of the world that's basically been solidly Tory for 200 years.
Guess we'll find out soon enough.
over educated elite (I’m guessing they were setting the boundary around mid grade GCSE level)
It shifts, but fundamentally it can be defined as people telling them true stuff they don't like to hear. Stuff that runs against notions like "everyone respects the Britain of 2021 because Britain won the war" and "we are special" and "yah boo sucks to you Johnny Foreigner is a wise and acceptable way to make the rest of the world realise they need us somehow".
In short, people who aren't tossers.
Johnson will sleaze his way to a victory in North Shropshire
a seat that Tory will take a lot to shift when 1/3rds nationally still say theyll vote Tory
Johnson will sleaze his way to a victory in North Shropshire
Now that he's successfully stoked the omicron panic I think you're right. All the rancour from last week will evaporate as he gets the opportunity to play statesman on the evening news. It's so bloody transparent and everyone falls for it, including it would seem the official 'opposition'.
Johnson will sleaze his way to a victory in North Shropshire
North Shropshire has voted Tory before the Tory party was even a thing. They've never returned anything but a Tory MP I think the only real question is how marginal (or not) it'll turn out to be.
I personally think the public will tolerate Johnson longer than this forum would.
Well the public have tolerated a tory party for most of the last 50 years
It'll be interesting to see the extent to which 'their' increasing realisation of his fundamental unsuitedness for rule, trumps 'their' knee jerk action to vote tory. Suspect the tories will win, albeit by a vastly reduced majority.
In the meantime, David Squires in the Grauniad has it absolutely nailed..
Partygate not going away
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1470825725305442306?t=6g_1htqBrIjVaRAW5moEvA&s=19
Also
https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1470814974905925632?t=5_wpz0aasaKXvKRmV6xhOw&s=19
First indications of 101 Tory rebels on COVID passport vote
Edit may be 103
98 Tory rebels in the end
Well the public have tolerated a tory party for most of the last 50 years
I believe the technical term is tory gathering or group since no balloons were involved.
I think the mirror have loads of these lined up...
Release them progressively for maximum damage
"Natural Party of Government."
Utter s****.
Yep, hypocritical arsehats.
Release them progressively for maximum damage
That or as people are thrown under the 350m bus they decided might as well try and get someone else to cushion the blow.
Johnsons switch from:
"No one broke the law"
to
"I didnt break the law"
Was very noticeable.
I suspect the pics of some prominent MP's are being held back for the mo.
It's horrific and fascinating in equal measure.
I honestly can't wait for politics to be insanely boring again.
Never thought I'd live in such a dysfunctional time in British history.
I suspect the pics of some prominent MP’s are being held back for the mo.
My guess is there wouldnt be many at least at the downing street parties. There is a possibility at that rumoured tory hq party but I think downing street would be mostly staffers.
I'm not sure these latest revelations will have much traction. Staff stayed on after they'd been there for work anyway, Westminster HQ party isn't government staff directly or held at No. 10. He'll distance himself from that easy enough, it's no smoking gun IMHO, (sadly).
Staff stayed on after they’d been there for work anyway
still illegal at the time, the fact that they'd got the caterers in doesnt make it look spontaneous either (theres also similar new revelations about Johnsons quiz)
Twitter is busy tracking down the people in that pic,
At least 1 of those present worked for Johnson leadership campaign, 1 is a major Tory donor, 1 is a tory councillor in sidcup (whos just deleted all his social media)
https://twitter.com/Gathersources/status/1470893110079238153
Shaun Bailey would be resigning as mayor tonight, had he beaten Kahn
The Tory councillor found in that pic has gone totally off grid.lol
Shaun Bailey would be resigning as mayor tonight, had he beaten Kahn
I doubt he would, he'd be getting his team to spin it like mad. Easy for someone to be noble and quit the small stuff, give them actually power and they'll hang on for dear life.
So, to recap. criminalising Roma, and Travelers, revoking the citizenship of folks they don't like, and removing folks rights of protest...All fine. Producing documentation saying you've had a jab...Draconian step into the abyss
Tory Party 2021
Rest of the media haven't picked up the mirror's latest in the same way it did before. Can't help wonder if they'd have been better to wait a day till the 'tory revolt' news has died down.
Or they are just using this one as a primer for a bigger drop tomorrow. I hope so.
So, to recap. criminalising Roma, and Travelers, revoking the citizenship of folks they don’t like, and removing folks rights of protest…All fine. Producing documentation saying you’ve had a jab…Draconian step into the abyss
Ah well,welcome to the dictatorship..
The silence is deafening on the police bill and there’s some well good crackers in that, Serious Disruption Orders - putting your name down on a list banning you from protesting or even discussing protest on ta interweb or anywhere else without being guilty of anything.
Funny all the great brexiteer/covid personalities that bang on about freedom are a tad quiet.
Don’t forget having to produce iD before being able to vote as well, they seem to have forgot that one.
I'd love to see the Mirror approaching the release of photos like an advent calendar, with Christmas eve being a group photo of a pissed Bojo and mates at one of the 'gatherings' holding up a newspaer with the date on it to remove all doubt about when it was, and flicking the Vs to everyone
Or they are just using this one as a primer for a bigger drop tomorrow. I hope so.
I wonder if it is to put pressure on Simon Case and the Met to investigate the parties properly. How can they conclude nothing to see when the papers are showing that there was.
Hopefully they gave something big for tomorrow for the by election
Putting the dic into dictator. This little video seems to sum up the current situation quite well.
This is the constituency next door to north shrops so hopefully will sew a bit more discontent doesn't seem to be a huge story in the scheme of things otherwise
What an absolute ******, to use the current situation as an excuse for a national televised sales pitch / personal political broadcast in support of tomorrows byelection no doubt.
Made frustrating by it being the right thing to do, so no-one can call him our or criticise him for it.
markwsf
Free Member
Made frustrating by it being the right thing to do, so no-one can call him our or criticise him for it.
I agree.
It was a trully epic thing for him to say
anyway
completely uninformed N Shrop byelection predictions?
Con 38
LD 37
Lab 13
REFUK 8
Grn 3
MRL 1
turnout- 35%
