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Ian Blackford good quality and to the point as usual.
And there you have it - 60 seconds of non apology.
Now linking himself to Zelensky; just moved onto energy strategy, safer streets, prosperity in the future.
What a vacuous windbag; pathetic excuse for a human being; grossly incompetent as a politician.
He really is completely shameless, isn’t he?
Yes. He's a shifty chancer with an expensive education and good* contacts.
He has been taught since an early age that he is one of the chosen ones and he is better than everyone else.
Put succinctly he is a fat, spoiled brat.
Even more succinctly, he is a ****.
*'Good' in the sense of self advancement
He seems tomhave forgotten to shave under his jawline also.
Mark Harper showing some spine. He couldn’t have been clearer. Johnson unfit to lead the country. Ukraine means that is even more important, rather than an excuse for him in staying in his post despite his unsuitableness to hold it.
We all knew Boris was a shithouse.
The Toadying Tories are even worse than I thought.
Ian Blackford good quality and to the point as usual.
And thus will be lost on Johnson’s core support - or dismissed as an elitist or somesuch.
This government and this 'Prime Minister' (prize arsehole) represent the will of the people.
It's no wonder folk from the mainland look down their noses at us with a mixture of pity and amusement. They must be laughing their tits off. Not even Orban is stupid enough to actually take his prime scapegoat out of the equation.
He seems tomhave forgotten to shave under his jawline also.
Probably too pissed to shave properly. He has got about eight chins to work through, though.
Vaccines and Putin. On repeat. And the “apologising for my mistake” non-apology.
Well, all those shithouse Tory MPs are going to have to vote to support the Prime Shithouse on Thursday.
It'll be interesting to see how many don't support him? How many actually grow a pair or develop some form of moral conscience. I'm going to go for 3, tops.
Bill Cash was rather spectacular in his strict reading of the law about fixed penalty fees in order to try and get Johnson of any responsibility. I wonder if he felt upset that even Johnson realised that was a moronic line to take.
'Mr Speaker', spineless as ever, acting as Johnsons human shield yet again
I forgot Theresa May was still in parliament, she must be readying up another crack at the smug response from Priti Patel, she doesn't have to stick to the party line, and has the ex PM badge as well, plus, more than likely a deep hatred of Boris after what they did to her.
It’ll be interesting to see how many don’t support him? How many actually grow a pair or develop some form of moral conscience.
A handful if that. Remember that most of them are useless bastards as well. There's nowhere for them to go if they need to find an actual job.
That huge majority and the fact that most of his MP's are relying on him being in charge to keep their jobs means that he'll survive.
That apology was the worst thing I have seen. I thought the last one was dire but this one is a new low. How much lower can he push it with the rest of them he'll have to give over the next few weeks and months?
How much lower can he push it with the rest of them he’ll have to give over the next few weeks and months?
Just trot out Priti Nasty each time to announce some kind of 'Asylum Final Solution' update and he'll be grand. They know their audience.
How much lower can he push it with the rest of them he’ll have to give over the next few weeks and months?
I don't think theres a floor on how low Johnson will sink. He's only going to get worse.
Whats incredible is how easily every Tory MP will debase themselves rather than criticise him. The whole rotten party is completely morally bankrupt.
Whats incredible is how easily every Tory MP will debase themselves rather than criticise him
The tory benches are a bit on the empty side. Luckily he still has the speaker who is determined to pretend he isnt a liar and so will slap down anyone who dares point out the truth.
Luckily he still has the speaker who is determined to pretend he isnt a liar and so will slap down anyone who dares point out the truth.
I think it is about time it is pointed out how low the standards have slumped under his watch, make him as responsible for failures in policing as those committing the crimes. I think he is just another public school educated establishment politician, willing to take a "gentlemans" word over the evidence, and has taken Sir Humphry an example to follow rather than a satirical caricature.
He has been taught since an early age that he is one of the chosen ones and he is better than everyone else.
TBH he is 🙂
Ian Blackford good quality and to the point as usual.
And thus will be lost on Johnson’s core support – or dismissed as an elitist or somesuch.
According to a Daily Mail reading, Conservative voting relative of mine
"Yes, but he's Scottish, they don't have any say in things [in Westminster]... You've got your own parliament."
A few us left the room at that point. But it shows what our fellow citizens think.
A crumb of comfort,
Met up with right wing Brexit uncle over the Easter weekend. He said he won't vote Tory again until Boris and the entire shit-show of a front bench has gone.
He said he'd vote for the actual Monster Raving Looney Party rather than the incumbent monster raving loonies.
The longer he stays in office the better for the country in the long run, I'm more worried that if he goes it will give the Tories more time to re-imvent themselves in time for the next election.
The Tories are imposing a three line whip for Thursdays vote. So they’re obviously concerned that many of their MPs might, even if they’re too spineless to vote against, ‘do a Boris’ and find somewhere else they pressingly need to be
Ah well it looks like even one of the Brexit cretins can see which way the wind is blowing. Maybe, just maybe there's hope . . .
That's an excellent letter. (Ignoring the "Got Brexit Done" aspect)
Anyone else think the time for rational debate has passed?
Personally, I'd be happy to see some more direct action.
I think Harper is ahead of things
He knows Johnson has to come up and apologies for another 4 fines.
Every time they have to come out and v defend this his MPs look ever more desperate.
Johnson knows all this, but he just wings it, one crisis at a time, his only hope that events can overtake the situation the way they have with Ukraine
Anyone think the Met might dump on him tomorrow?
Do•s a anyone remember “ a Porky Prime Cu•t scratched on the record?
Apparently a highly talented anal ogest
Arist sorry artist peace .
That was the good old days when professional s could actually string free words togather.
All of the newspapers are screaming at him to go on their front pages this morning. Well, apart from the obvious ones of the Mail and tha Sun who don't even have it as a side story!
So a whole demographic of readers will be blind to the outcry Johnson has caused. Talk about manipulating the media (or more precisely your donors manipulating it for you) for your own gains.
Swayne talking about capturing asylum seekers and deporting them as if they were 18th century criminals.
Hey, that's "my" MP. Will be amazed if he doesn't get another 60% plus vote in next election just like the last 25 years - nice people where I live...
I suppose if they can stretch it out longer, people will have gotten used to the new norm of the rules not applying to Tory MPs and the PM.
I’m sure that Rees Mogg will be around soon enough to tell you how silly you were to follow them to the letter as they do that history revision of what happened.
Hey, that’s “my” MP. Will be amazed if he doesn’t get another 60% plus vote in next election just like the last 25 years – nice people where I live…
Same as Fabricant. A prosperous rural / semi-rural constituency with 95% or more identifying as 'White British' and only marginally in the 'firing line' of immigration (no huge intensive agriculture from what I can see) and yet voted 58% Leave.
I'm alright Jack and **** everyone else. A safe Tory seat if ever there was one.
Just heard a bloke from a Railway magazine (yep they still exist - I thought they were just there so 14 year old boys could slip a jazz mag inside before going to the counter) on R4 sounding infinitely more ministerial than anyone from the 'Top Team'. A bloke from a railway magazine...
Mind you, because he spoke well and spoke sense he is probably an unpatriotic, elitist, gloomster. And because he also dared to mention that rail offers on the continent are far more generous, I reckon he's a fifth columnist traitor as well.
😆
Anyone see Rees Mogg on the news comparing Johnson getting fined to cricket umpiring?!
I was gutted the journo wasn't quick enough to say "Yes it is like cricket - when you don't think you're going to get caught out and then you get caught out"
Meanwhile in Robert Jenrick’s constituency, more Brexit benefits
It's what they voted for. Bet they're chuffed to bits.
In cricket, the done thing is to walk when you know you are out. (At least it used to be)
"Anyone else think the time for rational debate has passed?"
What is this rational debate you are talking about?
"Personally, I’d be happy to see some more direct action."
Soon come.
Anyone see Rees Mogg on the news comparing Johnson getting fined to cricket umpiring?!
Ah yes, cricket - all jolly sporting and fair play and gentlemanly and a pint of shandy on the village green.
So nothing at all like the current Cabinet then.
In cricket, the done thing is to walk when you know you are out
That too. Also was gutted the journo didn't kick his teeth in for being such a condescending prick. "Oh you don't understand.." grr
Anyone think the Met might dump on him tomorrow?
Would be funny
Even then the Tories too spineless to vote against Johnson on Thursday
Even funnier would be the fries of foul play from the Tories if the next fine drops just b4 the local elections 😁
Not on johnson's agenda for meeting with modi:
- india's equivocation re russian invasion of ukraine; some limited criticism but no outright condemnation
- modi's refusal to impose sanctions on russia and belarus
- infosys
Also was gutted the journo didn’t kick his teeth in for being such a condescending prick.
That's how you get your charter 'reviewed', funding cut, etc.
JRM is a copper-bottomed bastard, everyone knows it, I guess his attitudes align with enough of the electorate for it not to be an issue.
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Not on johnson’s agenda for meeting with modi:
He doesn't do agendas, that would require detail. Various parts of the press were reporting that the visit to Ukraine was little more than a photo opportunity for him; there was no formal agenda of who to meet, topics to discuss etc, he simply wanted to be seen walking around bombed out streets "showing support".
Still, I bet Mogg still has to pinch himself occasionally to remind himself of his luck.
"Every time I take this piss out of the electorate, they love me more. Cretins".
Various parts of the press were reporting that the visit to Ukraine was little more than a photo opportunity for him
Isn't that just his entire life? He's a man with all the depth of a puddle. Utterly devoid of substance, he believes in nothing other than himself.
Everything is just a photo op. Yet more narcissistic self-promotion. It's the only thing he can drum up any interest in. Hence the endless hi-viz and the hard hats and the military hardware. His terminal insecurity and yearning for some form of validation is tragic really. Or it would be if we weren't all suffering the results of it
Various parts of the press were reporting that the visit to Ukraine was little more than a photo opportunity for him; there was no formal agenda of who to meet, topics to discuss etc, he simply wanted to be seen walking around bombed out streets “showing support”.
Anyone see Rees Mogg on the news
Your regular reminder that Rees-Mogg acts that way because he knows that it winds you up. It's as well to let it wash over you, and remind yourself that his persona is entirely made up. How fragile must his ego be to have to hide behind an entirely invented persona because he's clearly very ashamed that his maternal grandfather was a lorry driver and his mum a typist.
^^^
Yes, but he acts that way (winding people up who accept that the world is a complex place and can't be 'solved' by waving a Union Jack and threatening to chin people), because it appeals to enough of the electorate.
The thinking man's idiot and the idiot's thinking man.
He doesn't care anyway. He made the decision to be a weasely little shit early on. The more he does it, the richer he gets. Why stop?
This Guardian article on the Oxford Union is worth a read. While it's true to say Johnson (I won't call him Boris) has little interest in detail, he is good at substance. The Union has no actual power so it's all about winning the argument, whatever it happens to be that day.
He doesn’t care anyway.
I think the image Rees-Mogg portrays to the world is very important to him. He's been like this since he went to Oxford as a scared skinny bookish friendless misfit. I think behind that image he's still terrified that he'll be found out.
Well well welly well, had response back from my MP in fancy paper from the house of commons no less. Basically, "yes Boris was naughty but only a little bit naughty and only the once for nine minutes (not another four times at least) and he definitely didn't lie to parliament (as such) because he's too thick to know when he's breaking his own rules, besides don't you know theres a war on?"
Was a copy and paste job as it was titled FPNs and I asked about the ministerial code. Who thinks I should get back on to him?
Rees Mogg, like Voldamort but without the charm and wit, I think I read this on here but certainly worth repeating.
Was a copy and paste job as it was titled FPNs and I asked about the ministerial code. Who thinks I should get back on to him?
No you need to get as many different people within your constituancy to email him (and threaten to vote next most likely to win party) as I do believe they gauge the ill feeling by numbers of emails not the content of an email.
Your regular reminder that Rees-Mogg acts that way because he knows that it winds you up. It’s as well to let it wash over you, and remind yourself that his persona is entirely made up
see also fabricant
they absolutely love the attention
Fabricant is so far up Boris’ arse he comes to parliament in a Boris costume every day.
Is everyone writing to their Tory MPs starting by stating they have always previously supported the party with their vote. No point writing without doing that, not one of them gives a shit for anyone's opinion if you weren't already one of theirs
Well, even the most cursory, insincere, faux contrition of yesterday is long gone.
Business as usual. Move along now... nothing to see here
Anyway... Ukraine....
Fabricant is so far up Boris’ arse he comes to parliament in a Boris costume every day.
TBH first time I heard/saw him I thought he was a comedian doing a parody.
Hmm I do think a lot of Allegra Stratton in regards to how she seems to have been the only person who got shafted over party gate and apparently Sir S brought her up.
I think Allegra Stratton's problem was that she was the only person anywhere near Downing Street in possession of a sense of shame
Not an inconvenience anyone else seems particularly burdened with
BJ: Nosh Job on Sir
I think Allegra Stratton’s problem was that she was the only person anywhere near Downing Street in possession of a sense of shame
That and the fact she is a pleb like us.
TBH it was a cracking video, should have really brought the house down.
The "Dr Who Timewarp" line at PMQs was as obvious as obvious can be... we're currently still "waiting for Sue Gray" and "waiting for the Met" while also being told that it's all in the past and should forget about everything.
we’re currently still “waiting for Sue Gray” and “waiting for the Met” while also being told that it’s all in the past and should forget about everything.
It's a holding pattern - blur it all over, dismiss it all airily. Very little will happen in the Tory party now until after the council elections on 5th May. None of them will want to rock the boat too much for fear that it'll spill over to the locals (more so than it already has...) so they're just in a bit of a gung-ho, "we're solving everything" mood, trying their best to smooth everything over until early May.
After that, especially if the Tories take a battering in local elections, the knives will be out, there'll be far fewer people willing to defend him or glaze over it all.
His performance in PMQs is beginning to wane a bit though. See how many backbenchers are cheering him on come May 6th / 7th...
As I've said before.
Fabricant has been MP for Lichfield for the 25 years since it was gerrymandered into existence.
Lichfield is a prosperous semi-rural constituency about as far from the sea as it possible to be and without masses of intensive agriculture (I.e. not able claim much 'threat' from seasonal labour or cross channel immigration). It is culturally exceptionally undiverse (96%+ identity as white British as opposed to 85% in the UK as a whole).
So, basically they are 'alright Jack' if you consider diversity and immigration to be 'problems'.
And yet they voted Leave 59/41.
Fabricant knows his audience is all. He is their elected representative and they are happy with that.
Unfathomable to me, but the first rule of showbiz is that you don't alienate your audience. If your audience are big fans of 'Love Thy Neighbour'....
"I think Allegra Stratton’s problem was that she was the only person anywhere near Downing Street in possession of a sense of shame"
Is that supposed to be a joke?
She is as self serving and vile as Johnson himself. Did you ever see the work she did (and was sacked for I think, or at least reprimanded) when she worked as a TV journalist, for interviewing a single mother on benefits implying she was a scrounger whilst neglecting to mention she was working for the local council but her wages were so low she had to use universal credit to pay her bills.
She was absolutely despised by her work colleagues.
Given that the UK is one of the world's foremost arms producers, I'm surprised Johnson didn't pass the Ukraine visit off as a 'business meeting'.
Stratton wasn't sacked by ITV for the interview she did with a single mother when she skewed the facts.
Not the first journo to do that and she won't be the last.
As for local elections in May, the tories have baked in c850 seat losses; anything upto 900 will, I'm sure, elicit nothing more than a shrug of the shoulders.
If they lose >1000 that will be more concerning - for them.
The 2023 local election results will be a much better barometer.
The 2023 local election results will be a much better barometer.
By which time, no doubt, Johnson will have been photographed getting a nosh from Jennifer Arcuri behind the Azaleas at Windsor Castle at her Maj's wake.
But the union jack y-fronts around his ankles will sway enough folk for a GE win.
I feel a bit sick
While it’s true to say Johnson (I won’t call him Boris) has little interest in detail, he is good at substance. The Union has no actual power so it’s all about winning the argument, whatever it happens to be that day.
I always thought that was what politics was about. Where the best 'heads of the university debating team' do battle. you know, one takes one side, the other takes a different view, regardless of personal opinion, and it's down to who does the most convincing debate who wins.
the other side of that however are the politicians who genuinely have an interest in the subject matter and go into it thinking that the debating masters do too. Only to become rapidly disillusioned by the political masturbation that gets in the way of progress.
I always thought that was what politics was about. Where the best ‘heads of the university debating team’ do battle. you know, one takes one side, the other takes a different view, regardless of personal opinion, and it’s down to who does the most convincing debate who wins.
Not necessarily. We did a bit of a debating society as life lesson thing at school. The 'sides' were often rigged so participants had to argue for something they disagreed with. The topics were often rigged too, so that one side was 'beyond the pale' but could still technically 'win' the argument.
These were very good lessons on a number of levels showing:
1. How 'good' arguments for 'bad' things could be constructed.
2. How waffling could bore people into voting for you to shut you up.
3. How having the last word is very important if the audience is tired, bored, apathetic etc.
4. How willing some people were to subvert their normal values to appear clever and win an argument.
5. How some people would play the man and not the ball if they were being bested.
6. How much the audience could be swayed by one well-timed and amusing cheap shot.
And many others.
A lot real-life politics should be done by seeking consensus on trivial matters, to leave time and energy for the big stuff, and the participants should always be acting in the interests of their electorate.
"1. How ‘good’ arguments for ‘bad’ things could be constructed.
2. How waffling could bore people into voting for you to shut you up.
3. How having the last word is very important if the audience is tired, bored, apathetic etc.
4. How willing some people were to subvert their normal values to appear clever and win an argument.
5. How some people would play the man and not the ball if they were being bested.
6. How much the audience could be swayed by one well-timed and amusing cheap shot."
This is the best description of this forum that I've yet seen.
This is the best description of this forum that I’ve yet seen.
no it's not!
Anyone see Rees Mogg on the news comparing Johnson getting fined to cricket umpiring?!
I liken him to that one prick at Paintball, who has been shot multiple times, is covered in paint but plays on , waving everyone away saying he hasn’t been hit at all 😉
I feel a bit sick
I initially read it as Jennifer Aniston and felt way worse.....