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But I do wish to point out that this event was reported in the Times newspaper, and elsewhere, the day after it took place.
Oh, well thats alright then.
Maybe we should all start taking the Times every day so we can keep our eye open for future Prime Ministerial lawbreaking being announced?
My own letter:
Dear Mr Daly
Like a lot of your constituents I have watched on in horror as we have seen the level of contempt for the rules demonstrated by our Prime Minister and those in his parliamentary office. Now that we are fully aware of wholesale law breaking in Number ten, by the Prime Minister, his wife, the chancellor and huge numbers of staff, will you now be calling on him to resign?
As a lawyer yourself you must be fully aware that having broken the law, then repeatedly lied to parliament about doing so, his position is now completely untenable.
Surely you are unable to serve under the leadership of a liar and a law breaker?
I would appreciate a reply detailing your position on the utter contempt our PM has shown for the sacrifices so many of us made.
I had to take my father for his cancer treatment and had to leave him at the hospital door and was unable to enter the hospital to support him. My wife could not visit her father in hospital for months where he very nearly died.
I cannot even begin to tell you how angry I am at people who made these rules, then flouted them at will themselves. As I'm sure are many, many of your other constituents.
I eagerly await your reply
Yours sincerely
Looking back at it now, Fatcha looks like some benevolent old auntie in comparison to this shower
** Just to be clear THIS IS NOT A DEFENCE OF THATCHER**
However...
I think the difference between Thatcher and this lot is that Thatcher had principles and a vision that she felt would, eventually, be to the benefit of all, and pursued them relentlessly. Indeed, I once went to a Q&A with Tony Benn (yes, that Tony Benn) and he was asked which modern politician he most admired and he said Thatcher, for exactly that reason.
This lot have no principles other than rampant self-interest. I'm normally fairly ambivalent politics wise, but I despise them.
Ohh, there's some good emails here, I'm doing some cut and paste right now! 🙂
I knew STW would not fail at this time.
I agree with you completely about Fatcha
** and also just to be clear THIS IS NOT A DEFENCE OF THATCHER**
I was watching the Thatcher and Reagan documentary last night(which is brilliant!) and the contrast with this shower couldn't be starker. I absolutely loathed the woman, For entirely predictable reasons (I grew up in the north west in the 80's), but I have to confess a grudging respect for her.
There was no ambiguity. There was no 'saying one thing, and then doing the other'. She clearly articulated what she planned to do and then she did it, whether you liked it or not. Not like these shysters where absolutely everything is self-serving lies and smoke and mirrors and deception.
The irony is that they all claim to admire her and idolise her but I genuinely believe that she would be utterly horrified at what the Tory party has become (UKIP) and she would absolutely despise Boris and his coterie of imbeciles on a personal level, with their preening, shameless air of 'born to rule' entitlement, paired with their shambolic incompetence
The irony is that they all claim to admire her and idolise her but I genuinely believe that she would be utterly horrified at what the Tory party has become (UKIP) and she would absolutely despise Boris and his coterie of imbeciles on a personal level
I think this is very true. She was, famously, a grocer's daughter who go to where she was through dogged determination and, basically, bloody hard work, and had a strong belief in the importance of duty and public service. This current band of entitled, privileged, vacuous, self-interested lightweights very probably have her spinning in her grave.
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Full MemberI think the difference between Thatcher and this lot is that Thatcher had principles and a vision that she felt would, eventually, be to the benefit of all, and pursued them relentlessly.
Yup. I mean, ultimately I think she was basically evil, but she certainly wasn't trying to be evil, and she'd no doubt have been horrified at the idea. And she was smart, driven, informed and interested in becoming more so, hard working... And a sort of honest.
Still an absolute ****ing nightmare as a PM... I can't help but wonder what good she could have done in another role.
Thatcher only really started with the vacuous populism stuff near the end, swapping flags on tables and getting shirty about 'my fish' and 'my oil'. I suspect there were two main reasons for this:
1. Her leadership was looking stale and vulnerable as 'the status quo' is always liable to be perceived as 'boring'.
2. She knew that the rampant consumer credit boom caused by deregulation (as well as the sell-off of nationalised industries) was unsustainable and likely to go 'pop' inside the next parliament.
Which bring us neatly back to rampant inflation - the highest since 1992. No one dares breathe it, but what do we reckon we could take off of the 7% rate if Brexit hadn't happened? I reckon 2-3%, but no one dare even float that one.
Up until 88/89, Thatcher's 'populism' had been a byproduct of deeply held beliefs and circumstance. Up until then she was a woman of principle - principles which condemned millions to poverty. But she wasn't doing it just to make it through the next 24 hour news cycle like the vacuous fraud that is Boris Johnson.
Mine:
Dear Jake Berry,
I am writing to you to register my absolute disgust at the behaviour of our Prime Minister and the Chancellor. They have both knowingly broken the law and lied about the fact. The Government is supposed to lead us and to lead by example. If you have any decency then you will add your name to those calling for them both to resign. If you attempt to defend the indefensible then so be it. The electorate will have their say when the time comes. In closing I would remind you of the words of Margaret Thatcher in 1975:
"The first duty of Government is to uphold the law. If it tries to bob and weave and duck around that duty when it is inconvenient, if government does that, then so will the governed, and then nothing is safe - not home, not liberty, not life itself."
Yours,
Sparkle
I’ve borrowed from others here so others feel free to borrow from me if they like
I am planning to use that Shapps quote in my email to the local mp. He should already be aware of it though given that he is Shapps/Green/whoever.
This was my letter to the local Tory line tower...
Hi Cherilyn,
I'm sure by now you will have seen the news regarding the Prime Minister, and the Chancellor receiving fines for breaking lockdown.
Can I now trust that you'll be sending in a letter to the 1922 committee calling for the resignation of Mr Johnson?
Given that not only has he now been found to have broken the rules that were imposed on us that we all followed, he has also lied to Parliament about this. He is laughing at you, me and every other person in this country for following the rules.
How can we now trust anything that comes out of his mouth?
I very much look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards
I cant believe we have a criminal running the country.
I've also written to my local MP (Tory), I've only ever written to her once before, quite recently, about Ukraine and haven't had a response yet. I'm cirtainly not expecting a response this time as she seems incapable of independent thought.
Mine
Dear Siobhan,
You recently wrote in the Stroud news and journal that you would wait for the Sue Gray report to cone out. Now we find out that both the Prime Minister and the Chancellor have been fined for breaking Covid laws at parties in Downing Street. I was not surprised because it has been obvious for a long time that laws had been broken – despite the PM’s repeated statements to the contrary.
This evidence of breaking the law is clearly a stronger statement than the Sue Gray report. As your constituent, I ask you to immediately call for Parliament to be recalled and to support a vote of no confidence in this Prime Minister in the Commons. And of course, please also submit your letter of no confidence in your leader to the Chair of the 1922 Committee.
I followed the rules throughout the pandemic. I moved out of my family home to protect my wife and continue to serve the community, running our village shop so that others didn't need to travel out of our small community in Miserden and risk catching covid. It makes me so angry that Mr Johnson tells the country not to mix, to stay home, not to socialise while he enjoyed parties. We – followed the rules, putting our lives on hold. All while those who made the laws broke them repeatedly.
Lawbreakers can’t be lawmakers. Johnson is the first sitting Prime Minister to have been found to have broken the law.
I urge you to consider my request, on behalf of all of us who followed the law and all those who lost their lives in the pandemic.
Monkeyboyjc 😂
We're getting to the point now that the Tory party, in refusing to condemn Johnson and defending this lawbreaking, is debasing itself in the same way as the Republicans are in their refusal to condemn Trump
But then Boris always was a Poundland Trump, so him being happy to discredit his entire party for his own self-interest is only fitting
I live in an extremely wealthy area, surrounded by life long Tory voters who are also my customers. Quite interesting talking to them in the morning when they pick up their morning telegraph's. There seems to be two camps, they either joke it off, or rant about Johnson in complete disgust.
I've one customer who couldn't sing BJ's praises enough a year ago - absolutely hates the man now, has said he will abstain any election whilst he is prime minister.
I've a few others that have lost a fair old wedge of cash due to brexit that say they'll never vote Tory again (generally land owners or farmers). But unfortunately many more who just laugh and say "silly man".
Our local Tory MP is absolutely awful and doesn't help matters for BJ, & our neighboring constancy has the one of the worst long standing MP's ever, also Tory.
our neighboring constancy has the one of the worst long standing MP’s ever, also Tory.
Ah, that'll be arch-Brexiteer Sir Geoff Clinton-Brown, my previous MP, Tory MP for the Cotswolds, the safest of safe seats, who conveniently forgot that his constituency solidly voted Remain.
We’re getting to the point now that the Tory party, in refusing to condemn Johnson
I think we reached that point long ago.
The Boris Johnson Character Product is here to stay for as long as votes keep coming.
I cant believe we have a criminal running the country.
Why not? It has been highly likely since 23rd June 2016. What kind of person would deliberately implement a policy that is damaging to the vast majority of the population? An idiot, a crook or an idiotic crook - that's literally 'it'.
I’ve one customer who couldn’t sing BJ’s praises enough a year ago – absolutely hates the man now, has said he will abstain any election whilst he is prime minister.
Note - will just not vote, still can't bring himself to vote for anyone else. He is part of the problem still, just not in as big a way as the bellends/fanbois.
We’re getting to the point now that the Tory party, in refusing to condemn Johnson and defending this lawbreaking, is debasing itself in the same way as the Republicans are in their refusal to condemn Trump
Yes, but both parties have already debased themselves by engaging in stupid populism that is to the detriment of their electorates..... and won. The Tories twice. The Republicans once with one pretty narrow defeat. Why are we always assuming that they are ashamed of their debasement of themselves? They get well paid for it and that is all they give a fig about. The Tories purged all their 'conscientious' one-nationers.
Acting like boorish thugs appeals to enough of the electorate in the UK and the US. Why would they change tack?
and yet if there were an election on thursday, i'd bet on the tories getting a majority.
Well I am outraged that I do not have a tory MP to email. This is grossly unfair.
Acting like boorish thugs appeals to enough of the electorate in the UK and the US. Why would they change tack?
Good point
What pisses me off more than anything is that this mob have factored it in and gambled that by debasing ALL politics, parties and public institutions - by actively promoting the notion that 'they're all as bad as each other' - They stand to lose slightly less than the others, thus they're the winners
All the Tory voters who will just abstain, mainly in safe constituencies where it will make **** all difference anyway, instead of voting for someone else just proves them right
Note – will just not vote, still can’t bring himself to vote for anyone else. He is part of the problem still, just not in as big a way as the bellends/fanbois.
True - but abstaining is a start. But bare in mind this is a life long Tory voter. A man in his late 80s born to wealth, who has never voted for an other party on any occasion. All of the other parties, Inc green, don't match his politics. Oh and has voted in every single election, by-election, local election and referendum since voting age. He is what would be considered a safe Tory vote in every sense.
He's also quite right wing even for a Tory, and pro brexit.
He's also not the only one that wouldn't be turning up.
Good news in the last month I've moved somewhere I DO have a Tory MP to email. So I have done, inspired greatly by some of the previous good work on this thread.
Dear person with godawful voting record,
Like a lot of your constituents I have watched on in horror as we have seen the level of contempt for the rules demonstrated by our Prime Minister and those in his parliamentary office. Now that we are fully aware of wholesale law breaking in Number 10, by the Prime Minister, his wife, the chancellor and huge numbers of staff, will you now be calling on him to resign?
Surely the fact that he has broken the law, then repeatedly lied to parliament about doing so, should make his position completely untenable.
How do you feel about serving under the leadership of a liar and a law breaker? Do you feel that your position as MP still commands and deserves respect? Your Prime Minister is currently showing you absolutely none.
I would appreciate a reply detailing your position on the utter contempt our PM has shown for the sacrifices so many of us made.
I had to take my 2 year old (at the time) daughter to hospital for a viral infection in December 2020, and was unable to spend time there with my wife. We couldn't even be in the same ward together to hand over the care between ourselves. This meant that we couldn't support each other in one of the most trying times we've experienced together.
Incidentally, if I was to act how the Prime Minister has acted and lied to my colleagues at work in this way, that would count as gross misconduct and I would be fired.
I cannot even begin to tell you how angry I am at people who made these rules, then flouted them at will themselves. As I’m sure are many, many of your other constituents. We all live in a world bound by the consequences of our actions. Why is it that your leadership get to avoid that?
I eagerly await your reply
Yours sincerely,
All excellent letters but I'm guessing you'll either get nothing back or a standard reply that doesn't answer any of your questions but is the standard response to show they have engaged with the voters...
Good news to hear some Tories won't be voting for Tories again (or next time at least) but ideally they should still vote so at least they have taken part and can rightfully complain about how crap this all is.
Ooooh, this is fun!
Dear Mr Mercer,
I'm sure you are aware of the recent news regarding the Met Police issuing fines to both the PM and Chancellor for breach of Covid Legislation. Considering this legislation was brought in by this Government, this is simply unacceptable.
Now that the truth us known, that not only did the PM break the Law but also broke The Ministerial Code by misleading the House (AKA lied) on more than one occasion, I'd like to know when I can look forward to you insisting Parliment is recalled, withdrawing your support for Mr Johnson and calling for his resignation (and submitting a letter of no confidence to the Chair of the 1922 Committee) as my elected representative. Adding the call for the resignation of any other Minister found to have broken the Law or the Code.
Obviously you do plan on this course of action as I'm sure you agree that having a Prime Minister who breaks the law and ministerial code, specifically through lying, would be an affront to the honourable reputation of the House. Especially considering that the PM himself backed a call for the boss of P&O to resign, due to his breaking of the Law.
Knowing your armed services background, I am sure that you understand the importance of following the rules as set out by our leaders and that these rules must be followed by all to be effective in whatever strategy they form a part of. Also, considering the current situation in Ukraine, how could other world leaders believe what the PM says in regards to, well anything.
I am also sure that I do not need to tell you about the depth of anger felt by myself and the rest of your constituents that the person currently "leading" this country and indeed other cabinet ministers, have shown such disdain and contempt for the people of this country in these actions.
I look forward to your response in this matter.
Yours Sincerely
"They're all as bad as each other" will be the line of choice for some from now on - then they'll vote Tory anyway.
My BiL has become a bit Brexity of late. He trots out "They're all as bad as each other a lot".
I consistently say that Keir Starmer was a QC who prosecuted terrorists in very sensitive and complex cases whilst Johnson was being fired from the Times for making shit up.
Then he typically gets a bit aggro and starts harrumphing a lot and the subject gets changed.
Life is too short sometimes.
My BiL has become a bit Brexity of late. He trots out “They’re all as bad as each other a lot”
You need to say how Dumbojo lied to Her Royal Regalness The Queen, took russian money and is a TRAITOR.Give him the full reverse gammon.
All of this has only confirmed the obvious, which is that Boris never deserved or was qualified to run this country. He has always been a self serving entitled dick.
What really annoys me is people - including himself - claiming he did a good job during Covid. No he didn’t. At the very best he just about managed to stand up and regurgitate advice given to him by people more informed than him, and do a barely believable impression that he cared.
Scary between us and the USA how out of nearly 300 million people what arseholes we have ended up with in the last few years.
Scary between us and the USA how out of nearly 300 million people what arseholes we have ended up with in the last few years.
We're spoiled rotten. The UK especially, but also the US has a standard of living that is way out of whack with what we actually produce, in terms of tangible goods.
But instead of being thankful for this and seeking ways to spread this standard of living more equitably and gradually our electorates said "no, **** everyone else, they can't have any of it". But what they had actually been conned into doing was opening ourselves up more to a race to the bottom with the developing world. The harder you try to grip sand, the more falls through your fingers and all that.
Selfish, entitled pricks with delusions of grandeur based on past 'glories'. Easy prey for the disaster capitalists.
Go us!
As expected
More fines for the sack o spuds PM
Surprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign. Must have been my numerous contributions to his inbox that tipped the scales....
Oh even more fines
Gonna be hilarious watching his MPs defend these
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1514347071968587790?t=xfQmSlwIichpng_jyBpQfA&s=19
Surprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign.
Wow.
Not that I’m the writing to MPs type but it would be pointless anyway because to my utter astonishment, our Tory MP has come out and called for Johnson’s resignation. He’s never once shown any inkling of rebellion so I’d say that’s a very good sign. If MPs like Craig Whittaker are breaking cover there’ll be plenty more.
Oh…
But Mr Whittaker said he won't be submitting a letter to the 1922 Committee calling for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister.
“All that does is, after the trigger point of a number of letters, there is a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister and my expectation is that he would win that process and with the amount of stuff currently going on, with Ukraine and the crisis around energy and the cost of living crisis for people, I think that's just taking away from what needs to be done on a day-to-day basis and that is to get on and manage the country."
[ Halifax Courier ]
I’ve been reading the various emails to local MP’s, and the comments that they might just get deleted. I’m going to put pen to paper, and express my opinion, as with a couple of people here my partner was taken ill just over a year ago, and I wasn’t allowed to accompany her, either to Bath, or then to Bristol. As it turned out, she was more than likely brain-stem damaged and had died before she got to Bath, but it would have meant so much to have been able to hold her hand and talk to her during the journeys, and I wasn’t allowed to. The fact that the lawmakers of this country deliberately flouted those same rules angers me almost beyond description.
I will be making my opinion very clear, and I will be posting the letter through her constituency office letterbox, as I walk past it.
Bollox to partygate. This is the real scandal, if you are looking for something to write to your MP about :
https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-to-be-sent-6-000-miles-to- rwanda-for-processing-under-government-plans-to-halt-channel-crossings-12589616
Cruel, inhumane, and a total waste of vast amounts of money, which will achieve nothing other satisfy a few right-wing columnists and Tory MPs who desperately attempt to appeal to bigotry and ignorance. Replacing the current Tory leader would make no difference.
"I accept that these people - whether 600 or 1,000 - are in search of a better life, the opportunities that the United Kingdom provides and the hope of a fresh start"
People "in search of a better life" is not the definition of an asylum seeker, as well he knows. He is deliberately attempting to create a false impression of what these people represent because he is no doubt uncomfortable at the callous treatment political and war refugees will be subjected to.
As the article points out :
The British Red Cross said it was "profoundly concerned" about the plans to "send traumatised people halfway round the world to Rwanda".
The pretence that he is primarily motivated by humanitarian concerns is absurd.
As is his cynical attempt to suggest that this is a benefit of brexit. The Tory MP David Davis who has a far longer commitment to brexit than Johnson is one of the most outspoken critic of this pointless and cruel scheme :
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/16/offshore-asylum-seekers-david-davis-scrap-plans
I was watching this earlier, and the reaction in the studio was interesting, nobody quite knew what to say, so I’m glad there’s a transcript…
Ah, Kimbers has just beaten me to it. Bummocks.
Bollox to partygate.
You don’t have to only pick one thing to write about. There’s an endless supply of contempt, inhumanity, corruption and destructive policy and implementation failure from this Brexit enabled government as they seek to keep the people who put them in power happy (be that donors looking for a return on their investments, or voters who irrationally hate people coming to this country whether that is to seek asylum or just to make a living).
CountZero
I’ve been reading the various emails to local MP’s, and the comments that they might just get deleted. I’m going to put pen to paper, and express my opinion, as with a couple of people here my partner was taken ill just over a year ago, and I wasn’t allowed to accompany her, either to Bath, or then to Bristol. As it turned out, she was more than likely brain-stem damaged and had died before she got to Bath, but it would have meant so much to have been able to hold her hand and talk to her during the journeys, and I wasn’t allowed to. The fact that the lawmakers of this country deliberately flouted those same rules angers me almost beyond description.
I will be making my opinion very clear, and I will be posting the letter through her constituency office letterbox, as I walk past it.
I can't imagine your grief & anger, I at least got to hold my wife's hand as she died 6 months before Covid struck.
That One Show clip is fantastic.
All the stories above about people's loss and inability to be there when it meant the most is exactly the reason why this must not be allowed to go away.
Can't we just send the tory scum to Rawanda and let the asylum seekers in.
Surprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign.
He was also pretty strident in his calls to get shot of Dom Cummings after all that nonsense as well. I don't think he's a fan of Johnson et al.
He was also pretty strident in his calls to get shot of Dom Cummings after all that nonsense as well. I don’t think he’s a fan of Johnson et al.
He was, I got a fairly reasonable reply to my email about that one, better than the usual cut and paste party nonsense. I've been emailing him since the peroguing of parliament, I always get some sort of response, usually from the PA. They know I'm never going to vote for him, but I always point out that he is my representative. I get the impression that MPs can be influenced in this way, might be delusional though! Its part of the democratic process.
I'll have to get writing about the ridiculous Rwandan idea dead cat now....
Bollox to partygate.
Yep I sort of feel this too.
Issues correlated to loss of life and poverty certainly get drowned out disproportionately by the blue-tick topic of the day.
And like all the forensic anger of wallpapergate (we were told this stuff counts each time) - nothing really gives whilst thousands of people suffer at the hands of a regime that would be deemed okay if it was just competent at its free-market delivery.
Competent Tories are still bad for the human race.
Cruel, inhumane, and a total waste of vast amounts of money, which will achieve nothing other satisfy a few right-wing columnists and Tory MPs and enough Leave voters to try to shore up his public support
FTFY.
Bollox to partygate.
No chance. That is exactly what Bozo wants.
The way to bring him down is to drive a wedge between him and his Brexity supporters. Keeping hammering on about him laughing at them obeying lockdown rules is the way to go. Many of them would rather save the money on the Rwanda nonsense and machine gun the dinghies in the Channel instead.
Partygate is what has the bastard worried so Partygate it is.
The best way to stop stuff like the Rwanda policy is to oust this nationalist-populist shitshow by any means possible.
Exactly what he wants.
“You can‘t trust me on [ insert any one of many failures, lies, cover ups or just abiding his own laws ] but you can trust me to keep people out and/or you can help me move the news agenda on by concentrating on this big steaming pile of turd of a policy I’m dumping out into the media while parliament is in recess.”
Bollox to partygate
No. it's precisely this that will drive the Tories out of office. because it's a story that folks can understand (different rules for them and us) Politics is often (for better or worse) about how a party presents itself to the public just as much as what it does. This particular brand of Tory has the putrid whiff of a administration that's been in power too long and has lost touch. Just this week we've had 2 MPs in sex scandals and another awaiting sentencing for assault , the first sitting PM to have broken the law and won't resign, Rishi Sunak's lack of transparency and non-resignation, Javid's lack of transparency, idiotic photo-shoots from the foreign sec now this Rwandan scheme...
There more things like this there are, the more the public will find it difficult to vote for them.
Oust the Tory (formerly known as UKIP) Party and you stop stuff like the Rwanda policy.
They got Al Capone on tax evasion. The 'how' is not important.
Partygate, partygate, partygate.
Big posters of Johnson and Sunak grinning and gurning with a caption underneath saying "THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU"
It's what Cummings would do and he's shown it works.
Oh even more fines
Gonna be hilarious watching his MPs defend these
I do wonder if Number 10 has had a hand in the order of the fines, or in fact the policy to dribble them out at all. The Met is a pretty big organisation and seemed to have little issue getting the fines administered to the little people in a timely way, So how come effectively sitting ducks are taking so long to shoot?
I say this as the British public are easily bored. By the time we get to round 6 of fines it'll barely get noticed before it's fish and chip wrapping (them were the days). Also, his first fine is the one that will get remembered most and (once I take off my Johnson hating hat for a moment) was a pretty soft offence in the grand scheme of things....if you believe the official line of what happened. I'm pretty convinced there will have been drinks events hosted by him and wife in the official residence and the like still to come. Stuff way beyond 'margin of error' territory. A savvy interviewer would be trying to get a minister to defend the pm for this current fine by saying it wasn't something more awful in the hope that next week's news is the more aweful version.
But to me the whole partygate shitstorm is less about what exactly Johnson attended personally but what occurred under the number 10 roof in totality. That either he was complicit in allowing poor behaviour to occur and either encouraged it or chose to ignore it or was entirely oblivious.He is the most senior person working in the building. The tone and ethic of every person to set foot in that building, regardless of if a civil servant or ministerial advisor should have been or was set by Johnson. That is the true crime here. A collection of people by dint of their very jobs should have been completely in touch with the suffering and sacrifice across the country who blatantly did not give a **** to moderate their own behaviour accordingly.
Do you remember Tom Cruise's rant that went viral about behaviour on set? That is what should have happened here. It comes to something when your PM is trumped by Tom Cruise for leadership competence.
By the time we get to round 6 of fines it’ll barely get noticed
I don't think it will. Everytime this happens and he's fined he'll be forced to come out and stand there like the pathetic child he his with his toddler haircut, and defend his own shitty behaviour, and more and more of his MPs will have to sell their souls to defend him, and the public will be reminded again and again about the folks that lord it over them.
Bollox to partygate
No. it’s precisely this that will drive the Tories out of office.
The Tories have an 80 seat majority, nothing will drive them out of office before the next general election.
Replacing Johnson with Truss, Javid, Patel, or any of the other contenders, is not going to move the Tories to the left. In fact it is highly likely to do the opposite.
I think the slow drip-drip of fines is more damaging.
If I was Bozo (well, Carrie really), my best case scenario was having them all imposed in one go now.
It is maximum time until the local elections in May and the country will be marginally happier with a few days off work for most. Parliament is in recess.
What looks like a slow drip-drip (with probably the tamest offense first) is damaging because it goes on longer, stands more chance of seeping into the brains of the electorate and will hopefully lead to a series of defences that are then demolished one by one as the more blatant offenses come to light.
This is all damaging for the Tories in general too. And that cannot be a bad thing.
One of our ladies in the shop voted Brexit and is a Tory. Surprisingly the Rwanda business has tipped her into not being able to vote for the pus filled prick.
I told her to spoil her card so that **** knows you don't like him.
Boris to
“set the record straight”obfuscate, obstruct, mislead, gaslight and tell blatant lies in an attempt to get off the hook
FTFY.
It's pathetic. It is like a child who has been sent to their room and now creeps downstairs every five minutes to try a different tack they have just dreamed up, knowing they'll fail but also hoping to wear the parents down until they give up sending them back up the stairs.
My local MP (Jenkinson) has helpfully pointed out that Boris hasn't been fined. Its just a fixed penalty notice so doesn't count.
And anyway - we're sending the dirty foreigners to Rwanda so stop talking about parties...
Boris to “set the record straight”
I can't wait to hear what 'the dog ate my homework, sir' bullshit he's going to come out with to try and justify this
It's just embarrassing now. He just doesn't know when to stop digging, does he?
Boris to “set the record straight”
Curious why he would need to set the record straight on something he swore he was telling the truth about... ???
Will he be seated in the rose garden while telling this story? Maybe it's something he got from the genius mind of Dominic Cummings who so accurately [s]told a bunch of barefaced lies[/s] "set the record straight" regarding Barnard Castle...
Curious why he would need to set the record straight on something he swore he was telling the truth about… ???
Well, we all know the answer to that one.
The annoying thing is enough people don't care, or actively approve of his lying so long as they think it suits them.
This really is not about whether Johnson is a bare-faced liar (he is), or whether he is fit to be PM (he isn't). This is about how happy 'we' as an electorate are about it. Do we like liars so long as they bully vulnerable foreigners? Do we like liars because they indulge our fantasies about 'empire' but 120 years too late?
Deep down this is about whether we are arseholes or not.
Unfortunately, after the last 6 years, I think we all know the answer to that
The last time a reliable poll was taken, we were 52% arsehole
"In a speech this morning the Prime Minister will invoked the spirit of Brexit as he unveils a £120million scheme to send men who cross from France in small boats to East Africa, saying: 'The British people voted several times to control our borders."
The spirit of Brexit indeed.
“In a speech this morning the Prime Minister will invoke the mean spirit of Brexit as he unveils a £120million scheme to send men who cross from France in small boats to East Africa, saying: ‘The British people voted several times to control our borders.”
The last time a reliable poll was taken, we were 52% arsehole
Very much so, it would seem.
There was a time, not so long ago, when things like this Rwanda bullshit would have rendered you unelectable.
Now it is seen as a safe play to shore up a parliamentary majority.
FFS people.
😥
Time to recognise that whether we like it or not, there are still a large group of people who would be happy to send a child up a hot chimney to sweep it.
gallowayboy
Full MemberSurprise surprise, my MP, the esteemed Craig Whittaker has called for him to resign. Must have been my numerous contributions to his inbox that tipped the scales….
And Mr Whittaker said: “I not only think that the Prime Minister should resign but I also think that Rishi Sunak should resign as well.”
wow, when a snake like whittaker calls for his resignation...
It would be an interesting strategic dilema, if it wasn't litterly the people running the country.
Everyone knows Johnson is a lying dupicitous shill, even his closest 'allies' will know damn well they cannot trust him, they must just be playing thier cards very carefully as they want to stay on the gravy train.
He's a bit like Vlad Putin in that respect...
But then there is also this...you can't really massage those stats 🙁
The last time a reliable poll was taken, we were 52% arsehole
There was a time, not so long ago, when things like this Rwanda bullshit would have rendered you unelectable.
Now it is seen as a safe play to shore up a parliamentary majority.
FFS people.
And that is why those of us fortunate enough to be north of the border are quite keen to cast off into the blue yonder - not to get rid of the tory overlords but to disassociate ourselves from the winnet voters that sink mainly to the bottom of the isle that vote them in based on these sort of policies.
Oh even more fines
Of course its doesnt end with fines. Boris will say he paid the fines out of his own pocket, but then it'll turn out the Cabinet Office paid them for him, then a Tory Peer will give some fiftyquids to the Conseravitive Party, but then its a loan or something then the electoral commission will kick off and fine the Conservative party , because he didn't declare all the fifty quids, because Boris lied to his own Standards Advisor about where the money came from, then the Standards Advisor will clear Boris of any wrong doing because Boris will have also told him he was unaware of what any arrangements were because he's not aware of things like 'underlying details' .... because it seems to be a perfectly acceptable defence for a PM to say the don't know what they are doing. The Electoral Commission will call it all 'Serious Failings' but the Conservative party will say that really means its just 'A technical breach' and that they'll appeal it - suggesting they think the have a leg to stand on - but actually they won't because they know they don't.
^^^
Can't say I blame you.
^^ Please let it be so.
I’m just here waiting for Boris, Hancock, Cummings and Sunak to form a Judas Priest tribute band… 🤞🤟
Don't get my hopes up (not about the tribute band) 🤞🤞🤞
Even a big thrashing in the May elections won't be enough. They'll just come out with the usual 'we have listened to the electorate and will make changes' drivel that they usually spout and carry on as normal. Sadly they know there's plenty of time between now and a General Election to change the narrative back in their favour. That also means there's plenty of time for them to cock things up even more mind...
2 by-elections tonight
Blue wall & Red wall
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1514738778887364615?t=W7Fol-XN-UNcf2e5W1gZBA&s=19
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1514733088475074571?t=wiJ3R9Tu4Rn1192nTceRQw&s=19