No, you’re not entitled to your opinion. You’re only entitled to what you can reasonably argue for.
That's a very dangerous and dictatorial position. You can think what you like, if it doesn't break the law.
You can't ram it down other people's throats though. And if you can't produce any evidence to support it you should have the self awareness to shut the **** up.
The hat is deliberate, we’ve seen him wear them that way many times before, it’s his outdoor version of carefully messing up his hair. How much of the whole look is deliberate I’m unsure. I mean, many have claimed the ill fitting suits are deliberate as well, and I can believe that… but is he really trying to look like…Hobocop!?
https://twitter.com/dempster2000/status/1467918332955402253?s=21
He looks like a tool
ed up smurf!
Fixed that for you Binners 😉
genuine LOL @ Hobocop 😀
Hobocop
Carrying a fair bit of weight for a hobo.
Dildocop perhaps?
I'm not sure that it is the role of a news channel to scream outrage but it is certainly the role of the Opposition.
Make the laws… and then make sure you can overrule judgements when you can’t even stick to the laws you make…
I do wonder how much our history as a Monarchy helps people accept this as “democracy”. Johnson wants to rule as if King.
Anyway, party, what party…?
https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1468285179919749120?s=21
I don't know why they don't just pack the Supreme Court with political appointees, it seems to work fine for Poland and the United States.
Anyway Hobocop has investigated the party and is satisfied no rules were broken.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59563762
Good enough for me. I'm sure he wouldn't lie. Oh wait.
It's not going away the crimbo party story.... wonder if it will lose them votes in the shropshire by-election.
I don’t know why they don’t just pack the Supreme Court with political appointees, it seems to work fine for Poland and the United States.
doesn't always go as you think even then, Roe vs Wade was pass 7-2 with a right majority court. And Trump appointees told him to go and do one.
You can be as corrupt as you like but hell hath no fury like a cancelled Christmas cheese and wine evening
Bet you he's wishing he'd saved dressing up like a cop and making up a drugs policy on the hoof for tomorrow morning's paper now.
Now that Johnson has officially denied it, it suddenly seems quite likely that he did intervening in this
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1468192931664351232?t=lr18GsfJmZuQaqtRKeE0pA&s=19
oops
You can be as corrupt as you like but hell hath no fury like a cancelled Christmas cheese and wine evening
That picture of gav
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1468326524638142472?t=129j8jJIqDAEvlZSpcyMJQ&s=19
This seems to be the first time dirt has stuck and once it starts to sr=tick there is going to be a never ending stream of muck. covid contracts is also getting traction but the parties in number 10 seems to have really stuck - especially whenthey lie and its an easily disproved lie as journalists were in attendance to at least one of the parties
this has an end of Major feel to it to me
If this was a BBC scoop Nadine Dorries would be apoplectic
Also
https://twitter.com/imacelebrity/status/1468329208749465606?t=k90xc6bexgPsQ4bQ1RsrvA&s=19
https://twitter.com/teresadee62/status/1467655446668496898?t=-kyqgGsPK9WIIxL62pF8rA&s=19
this has an end of Major feel to it to me
Yeah.
I wasn't convinced more recently but eventually this is heading for a House of Cards scenario.
can't be long before He gets that phone call from the Dirty Digger... "Tomorrows Sun will be running with PM fiddled while Rome burned"
I sent this picture to failing grayling asking him to think before leaping to the defence of those at the party.
Send it to your Tory scum bag mp.
No 10 still denying it TONIGHT!
Good, the more they deny it now, the more damage it does them.
Utter f****.
Edit: There was an utter feeding frenzy about it on ITV just them, anyone see that??
Yep. Any sense that there might even be footage from within the party...... and just waiting for the chance to drop that.
Bit like Red Bull's 'no, he didn't brake' how can they not think it's going to get proven in the end?
Bigger than Barnard Castle according to ITV
Bit like Red Bull’s ‘no, he didn’t brake’ how can they not think it’s going to get proven in the end?
Because even when it has in the past it hasnt really damaged them. So worth a gamble.
Its a basic law of politics. Its not the event that does for you - its the cover up and lies. Ask Nixon!
If they had said " there was a small gathering, it was unwise, they attempted to follow protocol, people have been spoken to and disciplined as appropriate" then its a non event even if they do not discipline anyone
Lie and cover it up and it always leaks in a drip drip drip manner prolonging the news headlines
I’d like to think that somewhere deep within No. 10 someone is having a full on Malcolm Tucker moment right now!
theotherjonv
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Yep. Any sense that there might even be footage from within the party
I've got to say that it would be stunning if no pics were taken, it'd be the first Christmas party since smartphones came along that didn't have pics taken, if so. Whether they ended up in the hands of someone to leak them is another matter. I hope so.
Good, the more they deny it now, the more damage it does them.
Not just to them but to the fight against Covid.
All this will be music to the ears of right-wing covid deniers and conspiracy theorists...... it's all a hoax, there's no pandemic, masks aren't necessary, they're taking us for fools, they don't even believe it themselves, don't listen to them - don't have the unproven vaccines, and so on.
A lot of them see Johnson as a bit of a leftie with his big government spending and covid diktat, it is likely to drive them into the arms of UKIP, Reclaim, and Reform parties. The hard right of the Tory Party will also have their hand strengthened.
I certainly hope that any possible fallout won't result in a weaken determination to fight the pandemic, or strengthen the UK's right-wing, but imo that is far from certain.
Whether they ended up in the hands of someone to leak them is another matter. I hope so.
I think there will be some people carefully deleting some photos of an event that didnt happen/did happen but met the rules/did happen but was done as a test of whether the met police would enforce the rules/ohh squirrel.
The BBC breakfast editor tweeted "7.30am slot on #BBCBreakfast on Wednesday still waiting to be filled.
Usually know by now which Minister will be offered for morning interview."
Some desperate negotiating going on I guess to get someone mad enough to go and follow the current line.
Just had a look at the daily wail - gunning for Johnson over this, Sun ditto, Express its the second story after "labour brexit moaners" Telegraph is leading with the story.
I fear you are right to some extent - like with Cummingsit makes it more difficult to get folk to follow covid advice but it really does feel like this is sticking
Rees-Mogg at the party ridiculing social distancing and the prospect of being investigated by police
Edit might not be the same party/event
The Rees-Mogg video looked like a poor fake when I saw it on social media. I wouldn’t get distracted by it.
well that video has mysteriously vanished!
And the veering towards fascism continues - or autocracy if you prefer
Making protest illegal with draconian penalties, Putting ministers above the law, making control of the press tighter, voter suppression, more racist immigration policies and the creating of internal and external enemies and the next one to appear will be another attempt to prevent unions funding labour I will bet
And no one showed up for the BBC Breakfast 7:30 slot.
What distraction tactic should we expect next - it’s quite some dead cat that’ll be needed here.
Some desperate negotiating going on I guess to get someone mad enough to go and follow the current line
Ha. That’ll be nobody then.
for the Torygraph Boris's Crimbo bash is a dead cat for England Ashes Crash.
This video?
Weird. Still looks fake. Still, Singapore-on-Thames using imperial measurements… he’s a comedian, you have to give him that.
What a farkin car crash. A number of senior Tories must go, starting with Boris. Liars the lot of them.
Its a problem with our pseudo democracy - there is absolutely no sanctions for lying and no mechanism for getting rid of incompetents. You are relying on them having some integrity and this lot of liars and corrupt chancers have none
Those that should be sacked have too much dirt on Johnson to be sacked as he fears the retribution from them
