aggghh how can this ****ing moron become the UK prime minister?
Appealing to the right wing gammons with all his previous work..as these are the people all riled who'll bother to get out and vote.
He lies, he's lied all the time, he has no integrity and must be held accountable for all his previous statements.
Oh good.
Another politics thread.
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Another duplicate politics thread
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Well I would, but we get threads about the countries top cyclists chopped because there's one post that has it buried deep inside, but talk about buffoons in suits aw ****in day long.
No wonder there's hardly any **** left on here anymore.
I searched and although there is a leadership thread there is no Jo blo thread. His idiocy demands a sole thread I thought.
If we're being consistent with thread titles it should be 'Boris! Johnson!' . He is, after all, our poundshop Trump.
He lies, he’s lied all the time, he has no integrity
He's a politician what do you expect? Lying & having no integrity is inherently built into politicians, I despise every single one of them.
I think this thread has all you need to know about him...
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1138840014824124417
Darn and I had my hopes pinned on Greta Thunberg
The great thing about Boris is that he's obviously authentic and in no way has been bought by those with nefarious motivations. I'm delighted that he's able to segregate his duties as an MP to those of his employers, the chucklesome Barclay brothers who've paid him £750k in return for him writing opinion pieces for a once highly respected broadsheet newspaper.
I am full of confidence that Boris is in no way a lying, deceitful, serial bullshitting shyster who cannot keep his trousers up and that he is capable of empathising with 65m people and ultimately uniting the country behind him.
I have no concerns that Bo Jo won’t unite the country. I suspect quite quickly we’ll all realise his grade A ****wittery.
Then we can be united on this matter.
I think this thread has all you need to know about him…
Just taking one point from there, so you're cool with burqas? Don't see why people might not like them? This is the same Boris who wants an amnesty for all illegal immigrants by the way. The nazi.
How does Lord Far Far fit into all this?
Will he happily slide away knowing that the position of prime **** has been admirably filled or will he still have to find something to moan about?
There's always one who has to make a demonstratively contrary point just to be "edgy".
Just taking one point from there, so you’re cool with burqas?
Yep, presumably you are not - which is no surprise given all the other shit you post.
It's quite amusing that he's gone from pariah to hero of the brexiteers
He's a serial liar & incomptent, his 'plan' for Brexit is nonexistent
Somehow theyve managed to learn nothing from May & are certain that this time it'll work out just fine.
This winds me up so much, what I think I’ll do is avoid any news. Any news where his moronic dough ball of a face is likely to appear. That way I can pretend it doesn’t exist and carry on unaffected, except in the normal ways a Tory govt. effect my life.
(Any better ways of dealing with it will be gratefully received)
Did anyone see his press conference yesterday? He only took 6 questions. One of them was the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg asked him about Brexit. In a reaction straight out of the Trump/Bannon playbook, he ignored the question but then immediately started mocking and belittling her, while his Tory audience all turned to boo and jeer her.
I note he's not doing any other interviews or press
He really is just a Poundland Trump. A truly vile human being
Yep, presumably you are not – which is no surprise given all the other shit you post.
Don't feed him !
I guess it's not the public he has to convince. It's shameful.
He really is just a Poundland Trump. A truly vile human being
That pretty much covers it, I think.
jekkyl
Subscriber
aggghh how can this **** moron become the UK prime minister?
Well that's simple isn't it- just avoid having an election, get selected by somewhere around 150 MPs and then voted for by somewhere around 63000 Tory party members. It's all about taking back control don'tchaknow, "and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… "
Don’t see why people might not like them?
I can readily see why some people might not like a lot of things. Burqas*, immigrants, abortions, Millennials, atheists, homosexuality, income tax, TV licences, gender reassignment... However, "people not liking things" doesn't automatically give their opinion any validity.
Personally I object to husbands telling their wives what to wear, but I also object to middle-class white men wanting to tell women at the other end of the country what they cannot choose to wear. How would you feel if Sajid Javid wanted to ban skirts? Presumably you'd be fine with that too, otherwise you'd just be a monumental hypocrite.
(* - As an aside, I don't think I've ever actually seen a burka in the UK and I very much doubt you have either, I assume you mean a niqab.)
Yeah, but, alliteration is important when you’re massaging your inner bigot.
think this thread has all you need to know about him…
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1138840014824124417/blockquote >
Oh my goodness. It says here this Johnson fellow has some sort of irrational fear of Islam. Well this is too much. I can't believe it... WHY Boris?? I trusted you, believed in you, and how do you repay me?? Irrationally fearing Islam, that's how! How are we to get full Sharia implemented across the UK with politicians like Johnson around? I must admit people I'm starting to come round to seeing things from the Corbyn mob point of view. There's hope for me yet Comrades! Thinking about it, there's an easy cure. If an Imam puts a Fatwah on BJ, it won't be an irrational fear!
There’s hope for me
Don’t go taking this the wrong way now...
I follow the political threads most days, I hardly ever contribute, but seriously grimep, you've clearly lost your way, and all rational thought is now beyond you. Let me be the first - U OK hun?
I've come to the conclusion that we deserve Boris as PM now. Let him become PM and drag the country into the gutter. We deserve it as a country.
The country needs to go through some true hardship. Perhaps for a generation, to finally quell this whole hateful Brexit/ far right resurgence.
Let it all burn. F*** it all.
Ah, lack of engagement and a non squiteur. Always a good sign that you've got a strong argument.
Actually, no, with my <moderator> boots on for a moment,
If you want to start an Islamophobia / ban the 'burka' / I'm a Big Old Racist thread, so long as it doesn't breach the site T&Cs you agreed to when you signed up, then you go right ahead. But knock it off on this one, it's just deliberately disrupting what (arguably) passed for a discussion in the first place. This is way, way off topic on a thread we almost closed as a duplicate when it was on topic.
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Good grief, going through the Charge Sheet it would seem some time ago Boris made a disparaging remark about poor governance in Africa. Well Comrades, I don't think we need to feel offence on behalf of Africa, where corruption in office is literally unheard of. They can rise above it!
The country needs to go through some true hardship. Perhaps for a generation, to finally quell this whole hateful Brexit/ far right resurgence.
Sadly, I have to agree. You can keep trying to save people who don't have the ability to think things through or just let others form their opinions for them but it has failed. The only problem is that the people making their lives worse will convince them that it wasn't them and it is still the fault of immigrants, EU etc,. etc,.
That applies to everyone else too, BTW - if this turns into That Brexit Thread 17.0 then it will be closed.
Thanks.
If Boris makes it to no10 who does he install in no11?
This has the potential to get worse and worse.
Hmm, does the Chancellor actually have to be a MP? Other Cabinet posts can be held by members of the HoL.
I don't particularly care whether people are offended, and I sincerely doubt that anyone is feeling offended on behalf of others, as you've just made that up for some strange reason best known to yourself. The issue is whether the man is fit to be PM, and how the current political climate allows a man with a track record of lying, racism, stupidity and laziness to get to the position of your beloved 'Boris.' As I said before, you've utterly lost any sense of balance, democracy and all the well established characteristics of a successful and happy society. Well done you.
You're derailing the thread and showing yourself up, Comrade.
We’re well and truly through the looking glass now. It’s like the country has decided to whatever is worse for it at every turn.
democracy /di-mokˈrə-si/
noun (also formerly (Milton) democˈraty)
A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people collectively, and is administered by them or by officers appointed by them
The common people
A state of society characterized by recognition of equality of rights and privileges for all people
Political, social or legal equality
(usu with cap) the Democratic party (archaic; US)
Use it or lose it.
aggghh how can this **** moron become the UK prime minister?
Well, it's a mark of the desperation that's seized the Tory party. Basically they are - or believe they are - in the midst of an existential crisis. They're terrified that if they don't deliver on the B thing, all their voters will defect to Nigel Farage inc. Boris is the closest thing they can find to Farage. They know what he is, but they're taking a last desperate gamble that he can save their gammon, or bacon, or whatever it is. Hopefully he'll be the end of them. Fingers crossed.
But basically he's the desperation product of last resort. Or something like that.
I think I posted several years back on one thread on here,"Imagine a world where Trump becomes US president and Boris UK PM"....
On the positive side Boris doesn't have an eye for detail (ie is lazy) and is a good at delegation so maybe our future lies in the hands of unelected advisers.I hope they're better than Theresa May's.
If Brits are so resigned to the fact that we are to continue as a slow-mo car crash to some bitter end then he's driving crashing a Fiat Accompli into Trumpville. No airbags.
There was a story about a rumour that the committee banned phones in the voting chamber on the grounds Boris team was wanting mps to take a photo of the ballot paper with the cross in the right place. Just in case people were lying about their support to hedge their bets when it comes to the nice ministerial jobs.
Top boy him and the Trumper for dragging blond hair into disrepute.
He got more than a third of the votes in the first round.
Hopefully the other near-two-thirds of Tory MPs will continue to vote for anyone-but-Boris as the process moves forward.
Unfortunately, as Channel 4 news has just shown when interviewing a selection of typical Tory members (Male, White, rich, retired and from the south east), they all absolutely love him!
If he’s in the last two - which he surely must be already - then he’ll walk it
The depressing reality is that barring him ****ing it up for himself, he’s our next PM.
That’s why his team are keeping him locked in a cupboard and only letting him out if he promises not to open his mouth.
Our only hope is that with a past as dodgy as his, someone’s got some real dirt that they’re waiting to spill
Of course they will vote for Boris. Anything else is handing control to Farage or Corbyn.
^^^^ Is the nation really that insane?
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seemingly not actually that insane & apparently #faknews
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1138770283207319553
Given the past few years... do you even need to ask?
Our only hope is that with a past as dodgy as his, someone’s got some real dirt that they’re waiting to spill
There must be.
But will it get out? Doubt it.
The media are terrified of the Tories - the BBC is fighting for it's life and the sensible print/net sources are irrelevant now, fake news innit?
Strange how McVey's alleged affair with the modern Mosely is never mentioned.......
Chris Grayling is backing Boris. Surely even Boris must be a little worried by that?
Love how everyone here just keeps ignoring a certain troll so they keep upping their comment game only to be further ignored.
Back on topic, another angry voice over on Facebook earlier suggested he always goes against what he's been elected on.
Personally I think at the moment he's doing his usual I can do this and general throwing shit from the sidelines. It'll be interesting to see what happens should he be elected and actually make decisions.
a Fiat Accompli
I see what you did there, well played.
`whats to stop a bunch of people clubbing together to fund say 63001 conservative memberships (although presumably you won't need that many as all of the existing ones aren't going to vote for the same person) and voting for whichever one is the least problematic? I'd put in a few quid.
I think you have to have been a member for so many months in order to be eligible to vote, otherwise i'm sure someone would do that!!
About 30k new members signed up since Aron banks suggested they should infiltrate the Tories last year, 160k total iirc
The whole Tory leadership selection is a show. It's bread and circuses. The vast majority of people throughout the nation's of the UK have no say in this. The media are letting us all down by not pointing out just how small a group actually have a vote in this farcical sham of democracy.
cromolyolly
Member
`whats to stop a bunch of people clubbing together to fund say 63001 conservative memberships (although presumably you won’t need that many as all of the existing ones aren’t going to vote for the same person) and voting for whichever one is the least problematic? I’d put in a few quid.
Pretty much the opposite has already happened, though inexplicably the press isn't full of wailing about Tory entryism (their membership has gone up by about a third in the last year)
The big problem the Torys have got is finding someone who the public will actually vote for - Hunt and Gove are not going to get much public backing, and after Boris promised a tax cut for the big earners I am surprised if the public will be very warm to him.
I think that ultimately the top three from yesterdays vote will not ultimately get the top job.
If we are judging PMs on their moral histories, then frankly you know nothing about the intimate details of the ruling political classes since...the beginning of time.
Power doesn't corrupt - those who seek power are already corrupt.
If you are looking for innocence then go to your local coffee shop barista or NHS frontline worker - those who serve, etc., shall hopefully inherit the kingdom of god. They deserve to.
All I know is the man needs to invest in a ****ing comb or a brush. You’re a grownup FFS, brush your hair. Boris and Trump, truly we’re getting the leaders we deserve. Apathy brought us here
Apathy brought us here
Populism brought us here. People not taking in by populism are not apathetic, we just don't have the numbers. Populism is not surprisingly popular...
Our only hope is that with a past as dodgy as his, someone’s got some real dirt that they’re waiting to spill
He's a racist, liar and philanderer. His supporters don't care. See also: Donald Trump.
Hunt and Gove are not going to get much public backing, and after Boris promised a tax cut for the big earners I am surprised if the public will be very warm to him.
I think that ultimately the top three from yesterdays vote will not ultimately get the top job.
The "public" has no say in it. It will be decided by about .3 percent of the population. Whoever they choose from the current nominees is guaranteed the "top job" until a general election is called. Due to the Fixed Term Parliament Act that could be 2022
The country needs to go through some true hardship. Perhaps for a generation, to finally quell this whole hateful Brexit/ far right resurgence
Yep I said this a while back. I was called selfish. But it's true.
We need a financial collapse and the public need to see they are always being screwed at the expense of private debt.
As for Bojo, like Farage he's a character - good or bad doesn't matter he gets attention all the time and that resonates.
I'm looking forward to him being PM. I assume that will be the end of Michael Gove for one, and secondly it's got to be worth a couple of percent swing to the Yes vote in Scotland for IndyRef2.
It's like some horrible catch 22. If Joseph Heller were around he'd be quite worried.
The only ones to get into power are those with power, those that need and should be represented by power are not. Just the powerful representing the needs of the powerful for the power hungry.
I’m looking forward to him being PM. I assume that will be the end of Michael Gove for one
This +1
Despite his buffoonery, Boris is actually quite a good business man, kind of like Trump without the narcissim - judge on the scale of politicisation vs average man of course.
I'l be interested to see that if he becomes PM, his advisors might reign in the former and the latter might shine a bit. I imagine that'd be a tricky balance.
Despite his buffoonery, Boris is actually quite a good business man
What absolute nonsense. For a start he's never been "a businessman" his response to business being worried about a no deal brexit was "**** business". And let's not forget the Garden Bridge fiasco...
You mean they'll make him less of a businessman and more of a Trump like muppet?
I can see that working.
I think what Boris is actually good at is diverting attention. He's like the proverbial "good day for bad news". If the Tories get him in no 10, they can do all sorts of other stuff without anyone noticing. Just wheel out Boris to make a few gaffes and fill up the front page. And doesn't he look all cuddly with his untidy mop.
To be fair, that was good business for the consultants...
Despite his buffoonery, Boris is actually quite a good business man
Cite. Unless the business you are referring to is the promotion of one Boris Johnson.
What the...! Since when has BJ been a good businessman? I bet he was trusted to run the tuck shop at Eton and ran it into the ground after 5 mins / ate the entire stock. Oh Boris with your Billy bunteresque japes! Quick here comes matron!
kind of like Trump without the narcissism
What? The man is a walking narcissistic personality disorder
As a reminder.
Back on topic, another angry voice over on Facebook earlier suggested he always goes against what he’s been elected on.
You have to understand that all that matters currently for him is getting first the support of a majority of Tory MPs - look serious / be the only way of saving your own job and party / look General Election electable and then appealing to the majority of Tory party members.
He'll promise anything - tax cuts / the death penalty / free holidays for rich OAPs / public chocolate fountains - so the latter will vote for him, BUT once it's done and he's elected, he never needs to appeal to them again, so there are no real consequences to lying. It's slightly different with MPs, but for the members, it doesn't make any practical difference. He can promise anything and then go back on it without consequences.
Our only hope is that with a past as dodgy as his, someone’s got some real dirt that they’re waiting to spill
It would have to be seismic, like he's a robot or Putin's secret cold war lover or something. Part of his appeal is that the Tories already know he's a duplicitous, serial liar, philanderer, buffoon, probably narcissist etc. But if you think about it, that's actually something of an advantage for someone who won't be able to deliver what he promises. When he goes back on his word, no-one will remotely surprised.
He's awful though. When he was answering questions at his launch thing, he started to look like an oversized teddy bear that was about to start leaking stuffing through badly stitched seams. Shifty, blustering, evasive. But then it's not like anyone didn't know that already.
I read an interesting artical about what other foreign diplomats thought of Boris when dealing with him during his time as foreign Secretary.
They thought he he was totally useless.
And when Boris marries his mistress a situation becomes vacant.
What I can't get over is how lightweight they all are...people I've never heard of before now seeking to be PM without a mandate from the electorate and talk of suspending parliament. This is a real spectator sport. I just worry about how those people will react who've been suckered into far-right populism when they become even poorer and lose their jobs etc etc.
Boris has already shown his political astuteness by announcing tax cuts for the wealthy at the same time as the elderly are losing their free TV licenses. Trump's comments on the NHS helped Labour win brexit-voting Peterborough. This ****storm is going to run and run.
I just worry about how those people will react who’ve been suckered into far-right populism when they become even poorer and lose their jobs etc etc.
They will just believe the next bit of populist nonsense that explains why they are poorer and have no job. They are hardly going to become politically enlightened.
Boris has already shown his political astuteness by announcing tax cuts for the wealthy at the same time as the elderly are losing their free TV licenses.
He's just appealing very specifically to the Tory party members whose votes he needs. It's not exactly genius: they're old, rich people who would like to pay less tax. At this point he doesn't give stuff about the wider electorate and, in particular, old people who will actually notice having to pay for a TV licence because, guess what, they're not Tory party members. Don't be suckered into thinking this has anything to do with the wider electorate, at this stage he's just doing anything he needs to, to appeal to that very particular constituency.