As usual, they went nuclear with a strike without letting the existing process (tribunal) run it's course:
disputes involving individuals should be dealt with through the mechanisms established for that purpose.
While that process takes its course, there remains no reason whatsoever for the RMT leadership to seek to disrupt Londoners by threatening strike action.
which seems a reasonable thing to say and do.
Whilst the tribunal has made a finding of unfair dismissal, it has also found that on August 9 2010 Mr Lynch breached an established and significant safety rule and was in part culpable or blameworthy for his actions.
So not quite as innocent of anything as painted by several people. I say the tribunal has shown it has value rather than the strike threat.
Elfinsafety - Member
The Rapture?
Outstanding. 😆 😆 😆
Good on the employee for winning his case which shows the value of a Union but also due process. Suspect he may have won as the employer did not follow appropriate disciplinary procudres, rather than he should not have been disciplined or sacked?
Thank you JY, I couldn't be arsed,
i was agreeing with ernie not you he said socialist principles [ I emboldened it] not that it was done by a socialist government.
Principles can be shared by parties who dont agree with each other [ in a non nick clegg compromise way] and free health care education etc is a principle of socialism so his point would seem to be a valid one
You are arguing that the reforms were not done by a socialist government which is true but he never claimed this.
Superb Ernie,some of your best work there.I love how you are self important enough to describe my statement that the early 20th century reforms were not driven by the primary idea of improving peoples lives as "false claims." Good use of bold type and quotation as well.Wrong as well,but at least you are consistent in that respect. JMK as a point,dear oh dear.
BTW; I don't give a shit about WHO introduced the policies,I just did it to get you and Fred to bite, you did.(as usual)Off now,I will look forward to your reply,as your one-eyed view of history keeps me amused.
Suspect he may have won as the employer did not follow appropriate disciplinary procudres
That's a pretty serious allegation, that a major employer such as TFL doesn't follow correct procedures. Specially as we are told that they have the unions constantly on their backs. Someone should get disciplined for that, if that's the case.
I love how you are self important
Well I work hard at it, so I'm glad it's appreciated 8)
BTW; I don't give a shit about WHO introduced the policies,I just did it to get you and Fred to bite
Yes of course.
Ernie - that's not an allegation, just one possibility - hence the question mark.
that is a poor argument Duckman All of us who argue on here and are opinionated will from time to time be incorrect. I have more respect for those [very feww granted and you arenot alone in this respect] who admit this than those who make a poor claim to defend thier position.
Yes I took it as that Scamper....... you're alleging that it's possible, if you prefer. And why I said "if that's the case". Although for the reasons given, I suspect it's highly unlikely.
Bakerloo Line driver Eamonn [b]Lynch[/b]
Any relation, Ernest?
as least Fred is entertaining
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nope, but this is a good likeness...
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No, it's a generic nom de guerre.
Tribunal finds first driver was sacked without justification.
Boris Johnson told to pull his figure out and sort a deal with the unions by MPs.
I doubt whether TFL are in any hurry to resolve the dispute. Letting it go ahead and portraying RMT as the villains probably suits them fine.
From last Friday :
[i]London Underground said it would study the outcome of the employment tribunal judgment and "carefully consider our next steps".[/i]
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/06/rmt-tube-strike-talks-driver ]RMT seeks talks to avert tube strike after driver wins unfair dismissal case[/url]
Also from the same article :
[i]"The tribunal has found in favour of the RMT, justice has been done and now we need to meet with the company to finalise arrangements that can enable us to move forwards as quickly as possible."
An RMT spokesman said: "London Underground has no excuse not to reinstate these two drivers. It will ultimately be a decision for our executive, but if we can get these guys back to work we can move on with looking again at these dates for industrial action."[/i]
It is clear that RMT are going out of their way to avert a strike.
But anyone who thinks TFL would have considered reinstating these guys without the threat of industrial action is deluding themselves.
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And in an example of RMT's commitment to safety, but reluctance to strike, from another article :
[i]Meanwhile the RMT said it was planning to ballot Jubilee Line drivers for industrial action, short of a strike, over changes to safety procedures.[/i]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13306339
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/unions-silenced-by-chimpanzee-tube-driver-201105123804/
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