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The heat pump went on our Bosch, we managed to get it repaired locally for £100 or so. First repair since we bought it about eight years ago so not bad going.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 4:12 pm
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Blimey there’s some good reductions on the Meile stuff, no mega ones on dishwashers though cheers Zilog, I’m not far from Abingdon as well.
Ransos that’s a good price it was the heat pump install I ballsed up previously that cost £90.
I have decided I’ll try and fix E19 error is only £25 for the part.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 5:15 pm
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Definitely market place. Our entry level dishwasher cost around £180, broke just after the warranty expired and the same model was now £230.

They didn't sell any official spare parts, and we couldn't find a generic part that the seller would guarantee would fit.

We got an identical dishwasher off market place for £30 and has done the last 2 years - we're not going to buy new again as it's not really worth it for us.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 5:34 pm
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Just wash up by hand, when we had a new kitchen we didn't bother with a dishwasher, 15/20 minutes after tea job done 👍


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 5:35 pm
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That is a crazy good price.

It's a local sole tradesman. I've had him out to it before, the drum bearing had disintegrated. He replaced the ball race, £45 all-in. The only downside was I was finding tiny ball bearings in the corners of the kitchen for weeks.

That's the thing though, reputation is priceless, I knew exactly where to go when it packed up. I rang him up at lunchtime yesterday, he was deeply apologetic that he wouldn't be able to look at it until 9am today. He turned up at 9:01, the workshy bastard.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 5:54 pm
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It’s a local sole tradesman. I’ve had him out to it before, the drum bearing had disintegrated. He replaced the ball race, £45 all-in. The only downside was I was finding tiny ball bearings in the corners of the kitchen for weeks.

The bearing in my last bosch didn't wear out, but the entire housing corroded. On the back of the drum there's a big star shaped structure that mounts the drum to the bearing, the whole thing was ether dissapered or powder!

£250 part to replace so not economical.

We live in a hard water area so I suspect some sort of galvanic action was at play.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 6:15 pm
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Our Smeg one is 9 years old and doing just fine.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 6:53 pm
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I swear useful appliances are pre programmed to fail around Christmas time. I had cooker elements fail on Christmas eve two years in a row. I now keep a spare in the garage.

Also had dishwasher fail on boxing day and a few years ago my hoover caught fire.

I posted this earlier. And, as if by magic, my hoover has broken this evening


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 8:09 pm
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Last Christmas I had our dishwasher apart. The pump kept running and the internet said it would be a leak triggering the float switch in the base; the plumber my better half rang said the same thing... except I'd checked the bottom already, and it was bone dry. Plumber said he'd come and look anyway if we liked, but how old is it? 12-13 years, we said. Not worth it then, he said, it might take me a few goes to find the problem, and at that age, something else will fail soon anyway - just get a new one.

Decided there was nothing to lose by having a look myself.

Turned out there was a second float switch, in a little chamber, behind the side panel. That float had some fatty gunk on it, so I pulled it out to clean it, and started running a wipe around the inside of the chamber too. I must have nudged the gunk in there, because suddenly a 1/4" square hole appeared at the base of the chamber and all the water ran away. Cleaned the rest out properly, put it back together and it's working fine a year later (famous last words...). I do run a bottle of cleaner through it every 6 months now though.

It did, and does, scare me that a basically perfectly good bit of kit nearly got junked for the sake of a small lump of gunk blocking a little hole...


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 10:08 pm
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Could be a lot worse, there’s the sink, a bowl and hot water to get you through Christmas. Three years ago my central heating boiler failed catastrophically a week before Christmas. Fortunately we still had an immersion heater for hot water.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 10:15 pm
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Dryers are a nightmare to fix. Dishwashers are usually a bit better imvhe

Really? Dryers are pretty simple. An electric screwdriver to take the tedium out of all those case screws helps. In my experience it tends to be the capacitor for the motor, the heater element or door switch. They’re light and aren’t connected to a water supply, so unlikely to flood the place if you cock up.
I’ve fixed a couple of washing machines. One I cut a hole in the side to fix so i didn’t have to take it apart. Couldn’t see it when under the counter.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 10:30 pm
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Three years ago my central heating boiler failed catastrophically a week before Christmas. Fortunately we still had an immersion heater for hot water.

A few years back, my water pump died in the middle of December during one of the coldest winters on record. Old back boiler so no hot water, no heating. I DIYed it in the end. It was so cold. So, so cold.

It took me almost a week just to find the bastard thing, it was buried under the floorboards. It was, shall we say "of its time," it was about 10" across, looked like it'd just fallen out of a U-boat and had alternative wiring terminals for 3-phase. I couldn't undo it because a combination of paint, rust and age had welded the entire plumbing assembly solid; when it did turn I was turning the entire pipe run attached to gods know what somewhere in the bowels of the house. I wound up taking a pipe cutter to either side, dropping it out, replacing with a modern Grundfos and about a foot of pipe to patch the gap.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 11:15 pm
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(... and I'd still rather do that than the dryer this morning.)


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 11:16 pm
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half the problems with dishwashers packing in is the sump float gets overhelmed by suds.

Engineer for our Bosch said don't use rinse aid with eleventy-one tablets as it causes lots of foam.


 
Posted : 21/12/2023 8:58 am
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Posted : 21/12/2023 9:29 am
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We had one once that stopped working, turns out it was a pistachio shell wedged in the impeller. Was a git to even get inside but satisfying to get it functioning again.

Don't have one in our current place, but like others I genuinely don't mind washing up!

Good luck


 
Posted : 21/12/2023 10:26 am
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Engineer for our Bosch said don’t use rinse aid with eleventy-one tablets as it causes lots of foam.

Indeed. AIUI, those posh 3-in-one [/insert Gillette blades arms race number here] tablets are supposed to negate the need for rinse aid and salt. You should be using either/or, not both.


 
Posted : 21/12/2023 12:27 pm
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Try a Howdens own brand Lamona, cheap and come with 3 yr warranty


 
Posted : 21/12/2023 2:05 pm
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A dishwasher is so essential in our household that anytime one breaks - I check the classifieds & buy one the same day.

Previous one was a £40 Beko that, surprisingly, worked great for 5yrs.

Then we moved house and our new house only had a useless slimline one so picked up a fairly new semi-integrated Miele for £50. I think the sellers were putting in a new kitchen. Bargain.


 
Posted : 22/12/2023 9:26 pm
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The only downside was I was finding tiny ball bearings in the corners of the kitchen for weeks.<br /><br />

That reminds me of a big fold-out MBUK Mint Sauce poster! I had it on the wall at work for quite a while, then took it down and put it in a cabinet along with other personal stuff, which all suddenly disappeared! 😖


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 4:31 am
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I am not sure why people think if they throw something away it will go to landfill. I suspect it is a young person phrase that I am not down with 😁. Those of you saving dishwashers from landfill, you are not.

They go through the scrap metal route and will end up processed through metal shredders and the different metals / plastics separated. Those fractions will probably then go through other separation processes and the unrecoverable fraction that is left will then be landfilled.

I hope this assuages the guilt of those replacing their domestic appliances when the break.


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 7:20 am
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Dryers are a nightmare to fix. Dishwashers are usually a bit better imvhe

I take this back. Dishwasher just died. It is now leaking from some kind of tank under the pump. I peeled the sides off and can't even see how I would strip the machine down to get to the bit I need to remove.

Off to Facebook...


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 9:31 am
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£25 part delivered and a half hour fix and so far it’s okay. Another big lump saved from landfill.
It was a part changed round the side and easy to access. The hardest part was draining the whole side water thing down. The water comes out where you take out the valve thing really low down, I made a little water shute out of tin foil to direct it from the hole into a jug so didn’t flood the rest of the machine. I felt quite proud of this, all the YouTube video professionals just had loads of towels. Fools.
Been out all day so hopefully I won’t go back to another error code, but it did a quick wash okay.


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 6:19 pm
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Not landfill 🤫


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 8:53 pm
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PCA, top tip is disconnect it and put it up high so you can work on it more easily. I never do this and invariably end up doing a rubbish job whilst simultaneously knackering some part of my body.


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 9:15 pm
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Yeah sorry I took it to landfill to the recycling facility where the metal will be reclaimed already. It was old, very elaborately assembled, and the part if I could identify it wouldn't show up for weeks. I'm stalking a couple of dishwashers on Facebook already.


 
Posted : 24/12/2023 9:26 pm
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Honestly face ache market is ace for stuff like this. People who have new kitchens replace perfectly good stuff.


 
Posted : 25/12/2023 6:43 pm
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I'd have a spare but I don't have anywhere to keep it and I doubt anyone has a 25yo Siemens going that's worth having over something newer.


 
Posted : 25/12/2023 10:25 pm
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Ffs…..wish I never read this thread the other day. Sod’s Law as my dishwasher has packed in tonight. What is it about Christmas time and appliances breaking, is there some sort of magic timer built in to them?


 
Posted : 26/12/2023 8:42 pm
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Sorry about that, whats the code say andy4d?


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 2:21 pm
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Can you add my tumble dryer to the list of appliances that know it's Xmas.
Fortunately a quick scroll the eBay located a condenser model about an hour away. A deal was struck at £70 . If it lasts a year I think it will save that in electric.
All I need is the horizontal rain to stop so I can get it out the car.


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 2:31 pm
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All I need is the horizontal rain to stop so I can get it out the car.

At least you've be able to get your clothes dry again.


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 3:08 pm
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@jkomo

It's a bosch and the tap symbol it illuminated. The pump was running continuously so I had to turn it off at the mains to stop it. Quick check online suggests the pump or impeller issue. Need to get it out and see but at work just now so just left it last night.


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 4:05 pm
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I might suggest it is the switch that tells the pump to stop. If the machine is empty and the pump is running (dry,) then the pump is clearly operating.
So it's either a PLC issue, or a float switch covered in crap that's still telling the PLC control that the waste water needs gone


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 5:15 pm
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Update (because I know everyone's been waiting...): bought an old Tricity Bendix off Facebook Marketplace for £30. Let's see if it can last a couple of months.


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 11:13 pm
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PCA, phew I can finally sleep well tonight.
My repair seems to have done the trick also.
Andy4d if we get yours going we have the triple.
Get all the water out of the bit where the filter sits with a Turkey baster if you have one. You can take a little cover off and clear any debris from the spinny thing or get any congealed fat out. It’s easy if it is this.


 
Posted : 27/12/2023 11:32 pm
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Update.

did the turkey baster thing suggested, then turned power back on (it’s been off the last few days as I was working), and the pump was not constantly running which was good. Put one of those dishwasher cleaner things in and ran a cycle to see what happened……..seems to be all good. Fingers crossed it’s reset/cleared itself.


 
Posted : 30/12/2023 3:39 pm
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Our Samsung one has packed up again (just outside warranty period), LC error code, phoned Samsung and they're sending a man Monday week(£99). I suspect next time we'll get a Bosch.


 
Posted : 30/12/2023 3:59 pm
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