[Closed] Benifit fraud... would you report someone??

oh and he also helped another neigbour change the gearbox and wishbones on his car the other day too!!

"Hello - is that the Daily Mail?"

Yep. No hesitation.

Yep.

yep, thieving scumbags report them!

Yes - however the disability may not be that obvious nor stop him from doing the things you mention

It grips my ****, I go to work and work hard, even going to afghanistan and the like a few times and i cant afford half the stuff he has.

He also sub lets his council garage has altered the council house which he isnt meant to do!

Quite simple really - YES! Although, you might want to make sure it doesn't come back on you...

Do you know the details of his disability?

Why not...

In the present climate there are plenty of genuinely disabled people being kicked off benefits to hit government 'targets'. I think, by the sounds of it, he's probably got away with conning everyone for quite long enough

nobody likes a snitch 🙂

Yes, report them. If they are genuine, they have nothing to worry about and probably won't even know they are being investigated. Been in a similar situation myself,give as much info as possible, don't put it off, do it today

Similar situation, as in like you, not benefit fraud scum

Yes, in fact I have b4 now, a woman I knew who was claiming disability, hiding savings in her grandaughters bank account and moolighting working full time in a shoe shop......

*put down his Daily Mail and dusts off pitchfork*

If it's genuine then he's got nothing to worry about.... why not.

snitch, no doubt about it. anonomous phone call if needs be. all you need to do is flag him up for investigation and let them do the hard work. even if he is genuine the investigation wont do him any harm an you never know if hes in big trouble you might get some nicer neighbours

I suppose you should, but I wouldn't.

Yes, in fact I have b4 now, a woman I knew who was claiming disability, hiding savings in her grandaughters bank account and moolighting working full time in a shoe shop.....

For the record disability living allowance is not means tested, there's no need to hide her savings for DLA. She is also entitled to a job and to earn as much as she likes.

Oh and yes...report him.

helped another neigbour change the gearbox and wishbones

He did what! stone him!

she is 'allowed' to work less than 16 hr per week not full time......

she is 'allowed' to work less than 16 hr per week not full time......

No not for Disability. She can work and earn as much as she likes.
If she is claiming a carers allowance or income support her work may be restricted.

Yes. Without a moments hesitation. I would also have made a dated records of anything I thought was evidence of the fraud including photos/video as appropriate.

I was on site in a house (Housing association) doing some work in a rear garden. The guys said 'I would offer to give you a hand but im on benefits for my back and can't get caught helping'. Later that day I saw him lifting a sofa and a 42" plasma screen on to a wall. So i filmed it and submitted it to the benefit fraud people.

I also reported him to environmental health and child protection as he had 2 young children who looked neglected and were allowed to play in a garden that was a cross between a landfill and an animal waste transfer facility.

Hope he got what was coming to him and the kids are better looked after.

well if you plan to do it in writing perhaps do a spell check first ... [benefit] ahem... pedant mode off..

We have a couple living opposite us who don't work. Sometimes he walks with a stick, other times he jollys along nicely, including on his v. expensive superbike. I have my suspicions but without knowing the full story - who knows really. At the end of day, I'd rather be working, than living off the state holed up in some crappy bunglow, rarely leaving the house.

If it makes you feel better - report them.

ART - if you suspect it, where's the harm in reporting it? If it's all above board, then what harm did it do?

Be a good neighbour!

+N. In a heartbeat.

Go for it and if you hear of anyone defrauding the exchequer by bypassing import duties when bringing shiny goods into the UK - dib them in too

And anyone that does jobs on the side

hang the lot of 'em

No never, unless I had evidence he was part of a large orginized benefits fraud. let him get on with his sad life, snitching on your neighbours is pretty low.

taxi25 - Member
No never, unless I had evidence he was part of a large orginized benefits fraud. let him get on with his sad life, snitching on your neighbours is pretty low.

Not half as low as taking valuable resources away from those who really need them. Shop 'em. If it's all clean, then no harm done. If they're on the take, stop them doing so.

Seems a likeable chap, always happy to help his neighbours, how come you don't get on with him?

Has anyone ever reported someone for tax evasion?

Yep.

Not sure what the 'state' will do about it though. How about you take some piccies of him 'in action' and send them as evidence?

Please may I have the kind of disability that means I am able to live off the state and still physically capable of pushing caravans around etc?

To put it another way, can someone explain to me the kind of disability that makes this possible AND still get state benefit?

To put it another way, can someone explain to me the kind of disability that makes this possible AND still get state benefit?

Is he partially sighted?
Does he have a learning disability?
Is he terminally ill?
Does he require dialysis?

Edit: Although the OP says he gets a car, which means he has claimed high rate Mobility component....there's no way he should be moving caravans if he's legitimately claiming this.

yep. shop em.

<Peers over the top of Guardian>

dob 'em in.

<slurps from fairtrade skinny soya latte>

Yep. Do it. As others have said, do it anonymously.

Absolutely.

one_happy_hippy

You're... you're not a hippy at all, are you? 😉

To put it another way, can someone explain to me the kind of disability that makes this possible AND still get state benefit?

This was on the news only this morning:

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13152349 ]Still being able to push a caravan around while pissed as a fart :)[/url]

[ART - if you suspect it, where's the harm in reporting it?]

Cause I only have my 'view from across the street' and honestly I have better things to do/think about. 😉

yes but he may be legit

Staw poll of the office says dob him in - Much less politely than that TBH...

Throw him into the nearest pond, if he sinks and drowns then he will be prove to be innocent and will go to heaven. If he floats, then clearly is guilty of all charges and should be burnt at the stake.

Get him grassed up - i asked a similar question recently and the lefties all cam out in his defense.

Still dobbed him in though.

If he is legit then he wont have anything to worry about.

Get the camera phone out and take some pics next time too.

If he's sub letting the garage make sure you let both the council and the inland revenue know as well

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/tax-evasion/index.htm

yes I did a straw poll and the staff in the Job centre reckon you should dob them in as well

binners - Member
one_happy_hippy

You're... you're not a hippy at all, are you?

Best post in this thread!

one_happy_hippy
You're... you're not a hippy at all, are you?

Muhahahahahahahahahaha.

It's simply to lure you all in to a false sense of superiority and then use that to buy stuff off you cheap on the classifieds.

Theres people defrauding the rest of us of far more than that getting knighthoods. Leave the poor ****er alone.

yeah dob him in anonymously, if he's genuinely disabled enough to get the benefits then he's got nothing to hide

if you're going to take photos then i'd suggest taking them from another persons garden.. changing the viewpoint might be essential if they could work out who took em from your garden layout or view!

HAVE THE P.C. BRIGADE TURNED TAXPAYERS' MONEY GAY?

I say yes, report him, but on this condition:

You go up to him, and tell him to his face that you don't believe he's entitled to the benefits he's claiming (I'm curious as to how you know exactly what benefits he is claiming actually), and that you are reporting him for fraud.

That way, you'll give him the opportunity to explain himself, if he has a reasonable explanation for everything.

Otherwise, just get on with yer own life.

worry about white collar crime more

whilst i also object to tax evasion more i see little point in turning a blind eye to people who are effectively stealing from us all. Taxes can be spent on better things than people defrauding the benefits system - contacting someone will only lead to an investigation if the claim is legit they have nothing to worry about.

I like Elfinsafety's answer.

he can help another neigbour push a caravan up onto his drive, climb ladders to move his sky dish and also go out every wednesday night and stand for hours playing pool for the pub team.

oh and he also helped another neigbour change the gearbox and wishbones on his car the other day too!!

whilst i also object to tax evasion more i see little point in turning a blind eye to people who are effectively stealing from us all.

Ooh! So sez the [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/if-it-sounds-to-good-to-be-true-it-usually-is\ ]SHIFTER THIEF!!!!![/url] 😯

I say yes, report him, but on this condition:

You go up to him, and tell him to his face that you don't believe he's entitled to the benefits he's claiming (I'm curious as to how you know exactly what benefits he is claiming actually), and that you are reporting him for fraud.

That way, you'll give him the opportunity to explain himself, if he has a reasonable explanation for everything.

whilst i also object to tax evasion more i see little point in turning a blind eye to people who are effectively stealing from us all.

+1

Andy

So the lefties wring their hands but vote:-

DOB THE FARKER IN.

If your going to be a grass don't hide behind anonymity.

Ask them if they need a hand moving stuff. If they say, "no, I'm ok" then you have permission to nuke their house from orbit, but only after making sure you have concreted in your own house to protect yourself from the blast, and also to keep your curtains in working order 😉

The point is, he is your "physical" neighbour.

But you are our "taxpaying" neighbour. The proximity of someone doesn't somehow make them less fraudulent.

And to all those who wouldn#t snitch on a crime. I hope its your childs face next time, and I know whos dog it was. Make a diffenrence now?

I haven't got any children.

Should I get one?

Maybe I could borrow one....

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I'm mystified how you know so much about this guy. Apart from his medical records, etc, you even know that the council hasn't given him permission for his "alterations", are you going through his dustbin or opening his mail ?

I'm not sure about reporting him, but I reckon someone should be reporting you - there's laws covering personal privacy, patient confidentiality, data protection, etc.

I'm mystified how you know so much about this guy.

Well presumably watching someone with a dodgy back (dodgy enough to receive incapacity benefit) push a caravan/ climb ladders to move his sky dish didn't require the CIA's assistance.

Just because he can do these things, doesn't mean he is not in pain.
Do you know that he is not in pain for the rest of the evening after climbing a ladder? How much medication he is taking?

I'd mind my own business and leave it to the professionals with all the facts.

professionals with all the facts.

I'd mind my own business

You mean turn a blind eye ?

Well presumably watching someone with a dodgy back......

How does he know that he is on disability benefit because of his back ? people's medical records are not generally in the public domain.

And how does he know the garage is being sub-let......has he gone through the guy's bank statements and identified the standing order ?

Jujuuk68 - Member

And to all those who wouldn#t snitch on a crime. I hope its your childs face next time, and I know whos dog it was. Make a diffenrence now?

nope, not in the slightest.

funny how when some kids tried to show up Phillip Green for evading 300 million pounds of tax this year by throwing paint at his top shop stores there was uproar from some of the people on here but if it comes to curtain twitching and grassing on your neighbors your all well up for it. -just make sure it anonymous cos it would be terrible if you had to MTFU

funny how when some kids tried to show up Phillip Green for evading 300 million pounds of tax this year by throwing paint at his top shop stores there was uproar from some of the people on here but if it comes to curtain twitching and grassing on your neighbors your all well up for it. -just make sure it anonymous cos it would be terrible if you had to MTFU

funny how when some kids tried to show up Phillip Green for evading 300 million pounds of tax this year by throwing paint at his top shop stores there was uproar from some of the people on here but if it comes to curtain twitching and grassing on your neighbors your all well up for it. -just make sure it anonymous cos it would be terrible if you had to MTFU

That's an idea. You could vandalise his car or spray paint something on his front door.

Yep, criminal damage would solve it all...

FFS.

(Have assumed 5th was of the same opinion and not being serious)

Ah, but Phillip Green is probably only guilty of tax "avoidance" not tax "evasion".........you see that's the clever bit.

So if someone found a creative way to be entitled to disability benefit, like making themselves purposely obese for example, then I'm sure the punters on here would fully support their actions.

I would still like the OP to come back and tell me how he knows "the chap two doors down" goes out every Wednesday evening, or even better, how he knows what sort of benefits, if any at all, he is claiming - I certainly have no idea about the personal circumstances of people two doors down.

(Have assumed 5th was of the same opinion and not being serious)

5thElefant - Member

That's an idea. You could vandalise his car or spray paint something on his front door.

I saw someone in Plymouth who had the whole front of his house painted in huge white letters.

Grass.

Made me laugh a lot and hope that his peers and neighbours treated him suitably.

I saw someone in Plymouth who had the whole front of his house painted in huge white letters.

Grass.

Made me laugh a lot and hope that his peers and neighbours treated him suitably.