[Closed] Benifit fraud... would you report someone??

binners - Member
one_happy_hippy

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one_happy_hippy
You're... you're not a hippy at all, are you?

Muhahahahahahahahahaha.

It's simply to lure you all in to a false sense of superiority and then use that to buy stuff off you cheap on the classifieds.

Theres people defrauding the rest of us of far more than that getting knighthoods. Leave the poor ****er alone.

yeah dob him in anonymously, if he's genuinely disabled enough to get the benefits then he's got nothing to hide

if you're going to take photos then i'd suggest taking them from another persons garden.. changing the viewpoint might be essential if they could work out who took em from your garden layout or view!

HAVE THE P.C. BRIGADE TURNED TAXPAYERS' MONEY GAY?

I say yes, report him, but on this condition:

You go up to him, and tell him to his face that you don't believe he's entitled to the benefits he's claiming (I'm curious as to how you know exactly what benefits he is claiming actually), and that you are reporting him for fraud.

That way, you'll give him the opportunity to explain himself, if he has a reasonable explanation for everything.

Otherwise, just get on with yer own life.

worry about white collar crime more

whilst i also object to tax evasion more i see little point in turning a blind eye to people who are effectively stealing from us all. Taxes can be spent on better things than people defrauding the benefits system - contacting someone will only lead to an investigation if the claim is legit they have nothing to worry about.

I like Elfinsafety's answer.

he can help another neigbour push a caravan up onto his drive, climb ladders to move his sky dish and also go out every wednesday night and stand for hours playing pool for the pub team.

oh and he also helped another neigbour change the gearbox and wishbones on his car the other day too!!

whilst i also object to tax evasion more i see little point in turning a blind eye to people who are effectively stealing from us all.

Ooh! So sez the [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/if-it-sounds-to-good-to-be-true-it-usually-is\ ]SHIFTER THIEF!!!!![/url] 😯

I say yes, report him, but on this condition:

You go up to him, and tell him to his face that you don't believe he's entitled to the benefits he's claiming (I'm curious as to how you know exactly what benefits he is claiming actually), and that you are reporting him for fraud.

That way, you'll give him the opportunity to explain himself, if he has a reasonable explanation for everything.

whilst i also object to tax evasion more i see little point in turning a blind eye to people who are effectively stealing from us all.

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Andy

So the lefties wring their hands but vote:-

DOB THE FARKER IN.

If your going to be a grass don't hide behind anonymity.

Ask them if they need a hand moving stuff. If they say, "no, I'm ok" then you have permission to nuke their house from orbit, but only after making sure you have concreted in your own house to protect yourself from the blast, and also to keep your curtains in working order 😉

The point is, he is your "physical" neighbour.

But you are our "taxpaying" neighbour. The proximity of someone doesn't somehow make them less fraudulent.

And to all those who wouldn#t snitch on a crime. I hope its your childs face next time, and I know whos dog it was. Make a diffenrence now?

I haven't got any children.

Should I get one?

Maybe I could borrow one....

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I'm mystified how you know so much about this guy. Apart from his medical records, etc, you even know that the council hasn't given him permission for his "alterations", are you going through his dustbin or opening his mail ?

I'm not sure about reporting him, but I reckon someone should be reporting you - there's laws covering personal privacy, patient confidentiality, data protection, etc.

I'm mystified how you know so much about this guy.

Well presumably watching someone with a dodgy back (dodgy enough to receive incapacity benefit) push a caravan/ climb ladders to move his sky dish didn't require the CIA's assistance.

Just because he can do these things, doesn't mean he is not in pain.
Do you know that he is not in pain for the rest of the evening after climbing a ladder? How much medication he is taking?

I'd mind my own business and leave it to the professionals with all the facts.

professionals with all the facts.

I'd mind my own business

You mean turn a blind eye ?

Well presumably watching someone with a dodgy back......

How does he know that he is on disability benefit because of his back ? people's medical records are not generally in the public domain.

And how does he know the garage is being sub-let......has he gone through the guy's bank statements and identified the standing order ?

Jujuuk68 - Member

And to all those who wouldn#t snitch on a crime. I hope its your childs face next time, and I know whos dog it was. Make a diffenrence now?

nope, not in the slightest.

funny how when some kids tried to show up Phillip Green for evading 300 million pounds of tax this year by throwing paint at his top shop stores there was uproar from some of the people on here but if it comes to curtain twitching and grassing on your neighbors your all well up for it. -just make sure it anonymous cos it would be terrible if you had to MTFU

funny how when some kids tried to show up Phillip Green for evading 300 million pounds of tax this year by throwing paint at his top shop stores there was uproar from some of the people on here but if it comes to curtain twitching and grassing on your neighbors your all well up for it. -just make sure it anonymous cos it would be terrible if you had to MTFU

funny how when some kids tried to show up Phillip Green for evading 300 million pounds of tax this year by throwing paint at his top shop stores there was uproar from some of the people on here but if it comes to curtain twitching and grassing on your neighbors your all well up for it. -just make sure it anonymous cos it would be terrible if you had to MTFU

That's an idea. You could vandalise his car or spray paint something on his front door.

Yep, criminal damage would solve it all...

FFS.

(Have assumed 5th was of the same opinion and not being serious)

Ah, but Phillip Green is probably only guilty of tax "avoidance" not tax "evasion".........you see that's the clever bit.

So if someone found a creative way to be entitled to disability benefit, like making themselves purposely obese for example, then I'm sure the punters on here would fully support their actions.

I would still like the OP to come back and tell me how he knows "the chap two doors down" goes out every Wednesday evening, or even better, how he knows what sort of benefits, if any at all, he is claiming - I certainly have no idea about the personal circumstances of people two doors down.

(Have assumed 5th was of the same opinion and not being serious)

5thElefant - Member

That's an idea. You could vandalise his car or spray paint something on his front door.

I saw someone in Plymouth who had the whole front of his house painted in huge white letters.

Grass.

Made me laugh a lot and hope that his peers and neighbours treated him suitably.

I saw someone in Plymouth who had the whole front of his house painted in huge white letters.

Grass.

Made me laugh a lot and hope that his peers and neighbours treated him suitably.

I saw someone in Plymouth who had the whole front of his house painted in huge white letters.

Grass.

Made me laugh a lot and hope that his peers and neighbours treated him suitably.

I doubt whether it cost £300 million to clear this up :

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Maybe the OP can vandalise a screw on the benefit cheat's front garden gate ?

right then.. I have a friend (who was originally just a neigbour when we first met) who claims some disability benefits.. including the car concession etc..

he has a bad back.. many of the bottom vertebrae in his lower back have been surgically fused to prevent something or another.. I don't remember the details..

some weeks however.. he is perfectly capable of a few menial tasks.. certainly a careful game of pool or two per week wouldn't often present too many problems.. he can climb a ladder if neccessary.. and on a good day when there's not too many alternatives I'm sure he could help manouvere a caravan or work on a car..

other weeks I have watched this very tough and world weary man in tears of woe as he can't move to help his young son tie a shoelace.. or walk to the corner to post a letter.. what job would you suggest for him..?
such is life and he accepts his lot with good grace.. yes he has a modern TV.. and why shouldn't he..!?
He also makes sacrifices to his standard of living that some of you couldn't imagine.. just to be able to afford to pay the ever constant demands made by his kids school for outings or uniform or extra curricular activities..
living on benefits is [i]NOT[/i] the free ride that the more fortunate imagine it to be..

all that aside.. he has been a hard working man all his life up until he started experiencing problems.. and has paid his dues in national insurance etc along with fat helpings of community spirit.. something which the OP is clearly lacking with their bitter and dissatisfied curtain twitching assumptions..
I've previously always vowed to make life harder where possible for these blinkered vigilante types.. but now for my friends sake I suggest that you do grass him up.. if he's legit he won't need to worry..
It just seems a shame that you might be willing to put this guy and his family through an awful lot of unneccessary stress to satisfy your curiosity..

maybe you should try and befriend him first.. see if you can help out in any way..?

I like Elfinsafety's answer.

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5thElefant - Member

Are you a professional criminal or just a keen amateur?

Neither, and i am a little unsure how you have managed to reach this conclusion. I think most crims are scum, still wouldn't grass them up though I live my life, I worry about my problems, if my stuff gets nicked it's up to me to sort it out 🙂

j_me - Member

I hope your peers and neighbours are as cooperative when your bikes are nicked or your house burgled.

It's none of my peers or neighbours problem, its my problem, and this is why I have insurance, some people are scum and take what's not theirs when this happens my insurance pays out.

I am very happy to live my life how I do karma in the end catches up with everyone.

eta. this has digressed somewhat from the alleged benefit fraud of which I still wouldn't grass him up 🙂

I think most crims are scum, still wouldn't grass them up though I live my life, I worry about my problems, if my stuff gets nicked it's up to me to sort it out

It's none of my peers or neighbours problem, its my problem, and this is why I have insurance, some people are scum and take what's not theirs when this happens my insurance pays out.

I am very happy to live my life how I do karma in the end catches up with everyone.

Hmmm.... 😐

Trouble is, where does it stop? At what point do you draw the line?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12175431

You don't sound like you're in control. You just sound scared. That's just my opinion though - no offence is meant.

Can I have a bacon sarnie too please Mrs Bullheart? 🙂

Too late, my diminutive-in-stature-but-colossal-in-heart friend.

She's gone out and left me with two farting dogs and a gazillion litres of Dulux...

What colour are you painting the dogs ?

right thought id beter come back and explain myself.

this neighbour 2 doors down was quite helpful when we first moved in and we actually became friends, not close friends but friends all the same.

he has openly told me he hasnt worked for ages.

he used to live on one of the rougher estates in the town but got moved as people were compaining about him and his family partying all the time etc.

now he thinks he is the boss of the neighbourhood, bossing people around, telling them not to park in certain places so his daughter can park there, telling other poeple to stop being noisy etc.

he sits on his sofa all day playing either his x box or ps3 on his 50 inch plasma tv that hardworking poeple ave paid tax for .

ive lived in this house 3 years and in that time i have seen him relay all the block paving at the front of his house, build a conservatory on the back of his house and various other things which suggest to me there isnt much wrong with him.

he told me that the council have siad you cant make any alterations to the house in any way.

he has been diagnosed with cancer about 20 years ago but has since been given the all clear.

his wife does not work either , nothing wrong with her, just cant be arse (her words)

he gets a brand new car every 3 years, council house etc.

he sub lets his garage to one of his brothers so they can un an inflatable business out of it, council still think he parks his car in there.

I can see where people are coming from where they tell me to mind my own business and to be fair i wont report him.

its just frustrating how people can blatantly twist the system to there advantage , where the like of another neighbour can barley walk due to a tumour on her back yet still works hard cant get any benifits!!

regards

steve