[Closed] Being a fatty now socially acceptable

Why, after moving more, on the same amount of food, do I still weigh the same ?.

Some people dont get it you got a sore rear end from some thread or other yadda yadda yaddaI am going to ignore you.

Surely you are satisfied with the reply and answer?

PS the real reason is because you are so god dam awesome you alone can break the rules of thermodynamics and you can actually create energy.

May i worship you ?

Was that helpful? 😉

Leaves thread as it will be a few more pages of this

What do I win?

A year's supply of sugar.

Right.

Think I'm going home now.

So, if I'm not back.

Thanks to all for their input, such as some of it was....

Have a good weekend folks 😉

TSY.
Now I know you haven't seen that video.
You're missing the new info you are being offered.

Solo - I have... but I've obviously missed something. Why don't you write it out for me so that there is no room for confusion?

Also - are you 100% positive that your dietary intake has been the same? Are you sure you've maintained the same level of intensity in the gym... have you moved less in the rest of your life? I thought we weren't allowed to use ourselves as examples...

Leaves thread as it will be a few more pages of this

Typical JY that one...flouncy flouncy flouncy

Q. And the basal metabolic rate is regulated by what?

A. Activity levels.

But that doesn't explain all the skinny people who don't exercise but eat lots. Or the people who are fat despite watching what they eat and exercising.

they've both flounced.

back to the OP then, i think it is socially acceptable, when high street fashion is geared towards people with big bellies instead of slim bellies its a big clue.

adverts featuring 'real women'... FFS, are slim women not real women also??!?!?!

EDIT - thyroid levels play a part, as does most of the endocrine system, stress also, disease, cancer, location, ambient temperature... anything that effects the body's homeostasis and will make the body adapt to try to maintain itself on a level.

A year's supply of sugar.

Is the next competition for a picture of you in lycra to help me burn it off?

EDIT: It seems I only need imagine, I'm all set.

getting your heart-rate up by imaginging deadlydarcy in lycra will increase your BMR!

Why, after moving more, on the same amount of food, do I still weigh the same ?.

I haven't read the rest, so may be falling into a cunningly laid trap, but..
My weight varies a kilo or so on a daily basis, so the tiny loss of weight that may have occurred by exercise may have produced may have been masked by this greater variation.
The onset of excersie and the repair of muscle may increase fluid levels within the muscles.
The muscles themselves may have gained mass.
The choices the body makes on it's default hydration levels may have changed.

But that doesn't explain all the skinny people who don't exercise but eat lots.

Mike do they really exist? The only people that I know that fit anything like this discription would also be described as having 'high nervous energy' or 'stressy'. They may not exercise but are constantly moving... fingers strumming, knees jiggling...

Is the next competition for a picture of you in lycra to help me burn it off?

😆

Nah matey, you can have one of those anytime you like shweeetie 😉

bump

'high nervous energy' or 'stressy'. They may not exercise but are constantly moving... fingers strumming, knees jiggling...

thyroid, anxiety, speed, interview coming up, needs the toilet.

But that doesn't explain all the skinny people who don't exercise but eat lots.

Or the people who are fat despite watching what they eat and exercising.

>But that doesn't explain all the skinny people who don't exercise but eat lots.

Mike do they really exist?

Nice to meet you.
I know things will change as I age.

The only people that I know that fit anything like this discription would also be described as having 'high nervous energy' or 'stressy'.

add into that cigarette's, coffee, drugs etc...

[i]Mike do they really exist? The only people that I know that fit anything like this discription would also be described as having 'high nervous energy' or 'stressy'. They may not exercise but are constantly moving... fingers strumming, knees jiggling...

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Must log out and go home to pay bills

TSY.
You're really clutching at straws now.
My Ex could eat cheese and choc for England an never put weight on.
And she sat about alot.
Mike is right, those people really do exist.
And their existence totally explodes the eat less move more myth, the alter of which you worship at.
Sorry dude.

I'm really going now.

Bye, bye.

add into that cigarette's, coffee, drugs etc...

Left over steak and kidney pie with a big wedge of of crusty white bread for lunch, hope you idavers enjoy you beans or whatever as much

Woah woah WOAH!

that's old fashioned speak for stop a horse

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LOL Solo - worshipping at alters?

Shame you couldn't stick around to tell me what I'd missed from Taubes.

If those skinny types do exist... don't they explode all your theories too? Just a thought.

Or are there some exceptions to the average person? You know the type... the ones who don't need to scrutinise their hormone levels to achieve a happy weight.

flouncy flouncy flouncy

Is anyone really scrutinising their hormone levels? Personally I have cut out wheat, rice, potatoes etc and eat more veg and pulses to replace it. If I eat these things not on a cheat day or for exercise purposes I accept it may be detremental to fat loss. My activity levels have dropped as I'm struggling with commuting/child care issues, but I haven't gained any visable fat.

flouncing is well known to raise your metabolic rate.

*reports junky for cheating the system*

Good point and how many calories have I lost through gentle sobbing and rocking back and forth?

cannabis raises the heart rate, why not roll up a 'cannabis cigarette' as i believe you kids call them nowadays and relax? its the best way to lose weight by relaxing.

It's the little things that make the difference.
"Aggregation of marginal gains" as Dave Brailsford puts it.

So now I leave my Rustler's burger at the other end of the bench, and every time I need a bite, have to scoot my caster chair over, then scoot back again.

So now I leave my Rustler's burger at the other end of the bench, and every time I need a bite, have to scoot my caster chair over, then scoot back again.

that, is dedication. i do something similar, its genius really but i dont like to boast about how damn clever i am: i keep the fridge in the kitchen, and the TV/sofas in the lounge.

amatuer
my kitchen is upstairs and my living room* downstairs

* working class for lounge iirc

living room? thats posh for lounge, or 'laahhhhhnge' as we call it below the british equator.

does living in a house instead of a bungalow increase your BMR? think it does.

EDIT - i have no idea why i typed lounge instead of living room, i've always called it a living room! might as well have typed couch instead of 'sofa' *slaps self across the face*

freeundred

i'll freehundred you in a minute!
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Don't 300 me.

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Solo - Member

My Ex could eat cheese and choc for England an never put weight on.
And she sat about alot.
Mike is right, those people really do exist.
And their existence totally explodes the eat less move more myth, the alter of which you worship at.
Sorry dude.

They cannot alter basic physics - its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

There must be a calorie imbalance to later weight - simple basic science.

yes some diets may make this easier of harder but the basics remain there.

They cannot alter basic physics - its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

Perhaps their piss is full of sugar?

The key is, they're not storing the calories as fat. So, why not?

They cannot alter basic physics - its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

The problem is that your model seems to be woefully inadequate, does it not?

Otherwise why was the gf not fat?

Simply putting the fat in your stomach does not guarantee it enters fat stores.

the argument was that insulin levels affect whether you convert calories to fat and therefore you eat more because you still feel hungry.

it said if you eat 2000per day and need 2000 but insulin suddenly makes you store 500 then you need to eat more to not feel hungry etc.

you are right though you still eat more than you consume and you cannot store fat long term if you are not eating an excess as you would also consume the fat

Perhaps their piss is full of sugar?

They should bottle that.

you cannot store fat long term if you are not eating an excess

Unless your BMR changes or your actual work out put during exercise changes. Or your work output stays the same but your efficiency changes.

AND SO ON

It's not just insulin, it's about 20 hormones.

Otherwise why was the gf not fat?

Because she didn't exist?

The key is, they're not storing the calories as fat. So, why not?

super hot underbeard leading to energy loss through heat.

They should bottle that.

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Molly any of those changes you mention would mean you are suddenly consuming in excess of what you're burning??

They would, yes.

But then there might be changes that mean you store less of what you eat. Like a change in insulin response.

Are you suggesting a reason or model that violates the laws of thermodynamics then molgrips?
She somehow magically removed the energy she consumed? or did she just consume what she used?
AS TSY notes you have stated reasons that later how much you burn but they have not altered the relationship between what you consume and what you eat.

Are you suggesting a reason or model that violates the laws of thermodynamics then molgrips?

Of course I'm bloody well not.

A human body is not a simple heat engine.

What you eat isn't necessarily all made available for exercise.

And the energy you 'use' is a massive variable, NOT just dependent on how much exercise you do.