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Bad actors stoking hate again (Southport Stabbings)

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It takes a special sort of ****stani born UK politician to use the latest tragedy to whip up hatred against immigrants.

According to Ben Habib it is almost inconceivable that this tragedy wasn't a terrorist incident. Judging from his rant in that clip he is completely unaware that such a thing as mental illness exists. Or so he wants to pretend.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 9:08 am
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A lot of prominent right wing voices were openly saying it was a terrorist incident even after the Police revealed it wasn't. No retractions or apologies, obviously.

And a lot of low life racists are on the "deport X generations now" on the back of it. At least they are outing themselves.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 9:33 am
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The BBC have been pointing out the ethnicity of the suspects and the man charged without it having any bearing on the incident, that is the normalisation of every day racism, they are preparing the ground for the far right to sow on.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 9:36 am
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The BBC have been pointing out the ethnicity of the suspects and the man charged without it having any bearing on the incident, that is the normalisation of every day racism.

Agreed.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 9:41 am
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The BBC have been pointing out the ethnicity of the suspects and the man charged without it having any bearing on the incident, that is the normalisation of every day racism, they are preparing the ground for the far right to sow on.

I think this is the law of unintended consequences and/or naivity on the part of the press (as it's not just the BBC) and Police.

After Southport, the policy was to reveal the background of such attackers to try and reduce the chance of bad actors stoking hate again. It seemed to work with the Liverpool car incident, though there are still conspiracy theorists claiming the driver wasn't white British.

Sadly, they don't grasp that to racists saying someone is black British means they'll focus on the black, and not the British. The key messages need to be "not a terrorist incident" and "British born". Though I'd quite like to see prominent pieces on the stats for disrupted attacks, as a lot of those terrorists charged and convicted seem to be young, white and British.

 


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 9:57 am
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They have little choice. Otherwise the cries of “cover up” would lead to civil unrest (again). The Police and reporters need to use transparency to avoid fuelling hate.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 10:00 am
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The key messages need to be "not a terrorist incident" and "British born"

After it was reported on Sunday I had 2 lads at work on Monday morning absolutely adamant the stabbings were carried out by an 'Afghan immigrant' who'd arrived last month on a boat from France. The same two were adamant, at the time, that the Southport attack was carried out by another immigrant who was known to MI5 and had recently arrived on a boat from France having read about both attacks on X/Facebook. It doesn't matter what the TV stations report to a lot of people these days because they now have a total distrust of anything said by the 'mainstream media' whilst being fed a constant stream of online disinformation that reinforces their beliefs. They believe it purely because its what they want to believe 


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 7:05 pm
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Unfortunately there’s now a huge media platform, with a massive reach, endless funds and very powerful friends that now seems to function largely as an outlet for said misinformation, far right propaganda and hate speech. 

A spokesperson for X was questioned by the Southport inquiry today about its part in this horror and wider violent radicalization. To paraphrase only slightly, they said “meh… we don’t give a shit! Free speech, innit?”

On the same day, Little Tommy Ten-Names walked free from court having had his expensive lawyers paid for by Elon Musk

 


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 7:43 pm
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And a lot of low life racists are on the "deport X generations now" on the back of it. At least they are outing themselves.

Why would they be afraid or even embarrassed to out themselves in Britain 2025?

 

Agencies are now having to balance potentially prejudicing an investigation or trial versus not revealing the ethnicity/nationality of suspects - all to placate a baying, racist mob. Personally I'd just ban X/Twitter in the UK and turn the ****er off.

 

It's a national disgrace. But, as per above, do we even have the dignity to acknowledge it as such anymore? I have my doubts.

 


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 10:09 pm
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The BBC have been pointing out the ethnicity of the suspects and the man charged.......

And yet no one wants to point out that the hero of the day who is credited for saving lives and was seriously injured himself is a foreign-born Muslim immigrant.

https://news.sky.com/story/train-company-lner-extremely-proud-of-rail-worker-in-critical-condition-after-mass-stabbing-as-family-call-him-hero-13463705

Deputy Chief Constable of British Transport Police (BTP), Stuart Cundy, said CCTV from the train showed the man's actions "were nothing short of heroic and undoubtedly saved people's lives".

Entire articles detailing  Sam Zitouni's  bravery don't mention that he is a Muslim immigrant and I only know because of my social media contacts with local Muslims. I believe our hero was born in Algeria.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 10:11 pm
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And yet no one wants to point out that the hero of the day who is credited for saving lives and was seriously injured himself is a foreign-born Muslim immigrant.

Been all over my social media feed, from anti-racist groups, unions and BBC

 


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 10:17 pm
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Social media yes, unsurprisingly, but I could only find 2 media sources which reported that he is a Muslim immigrant from Algeria, Middle East and Arab News I think. 

The BBC might have updated their articles now but I found nothing this morning.


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 10:22 pm
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This BBC article (updated four hours ago) specifically about Samir Zitouni doesn't seem to mention that he is a foreign born Muslim

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxr4qn6d66o


 
Posted : 04/11/2025 10:23 pm
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And a lot of low life racists are on the "deport X generations now" on the back of it. At least they are outing themselves.

It’s apparently fine to be openly racist in Brexit Britain today. This country is going backwards in so many ugly ways. The main article on the Guardian app at the moment… 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/nov/04/nhs-staff-face-ugly-racism-akin-to-the-70s-and-80s-says-wes-streeting?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


 
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