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Is the Report button working for anyone? There’s some Islamaphobia I’d like to flag.
Can you hold off for a bit, please? There's some revealing inconsistencies in what is being posted that it would be good to have explained in the open.
The articles I linked reported how these criminals were not convicted. Stastics about convicted criminals are not a counter to those articles
The stats you were given in response highlighted that Muslims (relative to the overall UK population) are over-represented within the prison population, however in relation to your two linked stories about Grooming gangs, and assertions that Muslims get a free pass WRT rape and child sexual abuse, it was noted that the overwhelming majority of Convicted sex offenders are white males... plus the cases you cited had as much to do with institutional failings and bias' towards the victims...
As for Muslims being given some sort of special protection or allowed to get away with such offences:
Now Then, Now then!... We know big organisations like the Police and/or National Broadcasters would never turn a blind eye to sexual abuse claims about a white fella don't we.
I’m lucky to be living where I am insulated from the direct impact of immigrants, such as overcrowding, extreme pressure on public services, increased crime etc – but I don’t think that not being a direct victim disqualifies anyone from commenting on or being concerned about it.
So you live away from poverty - what you are describing is poverty. We have that near us too.
Facetious is what people caught in a lie often call people who are pointing it out. Don’t worry, I’ll put it down to the stress – I’m not offended. See also ‘pedantic’.
So, one more time…
According to you the police allow muslims to get away with crime and much of it is in your local area.
But also, according to you, you live in an area that is not directly affected by things that you say* are directly the consequences of immigration – in which list you specifically mentioned increased crime.
There is a direct contradiction there. I’m asking if you’d like to clarify. If you can’t, then no hard feelings.
*We can come back to this later, if necessary.
There are no "revealing incosistencies", you would do well to re-read my posts and the posts they were responding to. As I stated I am not directly affected by the impact of immigration.
In response to another member, Tom B asking for an example of Muslims getting away with crimes, I posted the two links to high profile examples, one of which is from my area. I am not aware of the immigration status of those involved.
Can you hold off for a bit, please? There’s some revealing inconsistencies in what is being posted that it would be good to have explained in the open.
Noted! It's not working for me anyhow... 🙂
institutional failings and bias’ towards the victims
Good point
So even the far-right eventually accepted that there was no Muslim connection to the tragic Southport murders and they completely shifted their focus from attacking mosques to attacking immigration solicitors, refugee advice centres, and refugee accommodation.
But on here the focus has shifted to muslims and the long held far-right argument that they are treated better than anyone else in the UK whilst non muslims face prejudice and are treated as second class citizens.
I look forward to this thread moving on to discussing whether Muslims control London as some apparently claim.
Edit : Despite 10 days of rioting across the country there was no rioting in London. Makes you think
There are no “revealing incosistencies”, you would do well to re-read my posts and the posts they were responding to. As I stated I am not directly affected by the impact of immigration.
The direct and revealing inconsistencies are documented above at least twice, maybe three times.
You can dance on the head of a pin until we end up either blaming God or the Big Bang from here - your call.
Your confirmation bias (at best) is now on display for everyone to see. You've had a busy couple of days achieving this feat. Got there in the end.
Your confirmation bias (at best)
Generous, very generous...!
What will I do now somebody has said I have confirmation bias. Thats my day ruined 🙁
Despite 10 days of rioting across the country there was no rioting in London. Makes you think
Is it because it is controlled by muslims with the police backing them up and letting them commit whatever crimes they want? That is what I have heard.
What will I do now somebody has said I have confirmation bias. Thats my day ruined 🙁
Now that is facetious - well done!
Got there in the end with that one too.
Is it because it is controlled by muslims with the police backing them up and letting them commit whatever crimes they want? That is what I have heard.
The don't just back them up - they also encourage them to carry weapons. You heard it here first.
I see you've decided not to answer this.
Why then, do you only cherry pick those where the perpetrators were not white?
Which is fine of course. I'm sure we can all draw our own conclusions.
Oh, will you look at that? Five arrested over the Bordesley Green disorder.
The articles I linked reported how these criminals were not convicted.
They mention arrests and convictions.
Oh, will you look at that? Five arrested over the Bordesley Green disorder.
Two tier, apparently.
They are just the people they have arrested as a token gesture no doubt.
Moving on...
What do we think this weekend will bring?
Footie starts again - will have an effect, but will it be just carrying the disorder into another area of life or will it just disperse a lot of the footsoldiers?
Hot weather - lots of sun, heat, booze and gawd knows what else has always had a strong correlation with violent disorder.
Enough of the perps now looking at jail time - deterrent?
It feels to me like the bad actors' last chance (this time around) to cause a major incident somewhere.
I think (hope) that we've passed the peak. A combination of the scale of the counter demonstrations and doors swiftly being kicked in following rioting will put plenty off. There may be demos but not on the scale of previous days. Caveat. This is not based on any science or insight!
According to Stephen Lennon Hamas control London and when they have killed all the Jews in Israel they are coming straight to Europe.
No I am not exaggerating he has really said that, see this video
I'm guessing a few months of further, but lower level issues.
Maybe, I've no idea really.
By the way - his supporters really don't like it if you refer to him as Stephen Yaksmilk-Lesbian.
Childish, but funny.
Tenburner is a bit special, isn't he.
Best ignore him.
Awwwwwww… bless little Tommy/Stephen. They let him play with some real guns so he could live out his fantasies of what it must be like to be a Special Army Soldier on the front line and not on a sun bed in Cyprus
I reckon SYL's alter ego is posting on here as 10ouchburnyhot
Not sure if this link will work …
i like the idea of christening them “the Farage riots “
They let him play with some real guns so he could live out his fantasies
In the video (2.50sec) he says "If there was a war I would be there on the frontline fighting for Israel".
Someone should remind him of his commitment and ask him why he isn't on the frontline
It's more than a wee bit ironic when a Nazi declares his support for Jews. I hope the Israelis tell him what he can do with his support.
It’s more than a wee bit ironic when a Nazi declares his support for Jews. I hope the Israelis tell him what he can do with his support.
More ironic/tragic that Israel has ended up with a far right government that attracts and supports the likes of Yaxley-Lennon or whoever he is this week
Tenburner is a bit special, isn’t he.
Actually (sadly) I think he's one of many and not so abnormal. He writes well enough; he has a brain. He's just a typical Braverman wing if the Tories or Farage acolyte. He's not a mindless riot type - just the sort of middle englander that now feels emboldened to voice their feelings, no doubt revved up by a certain type of newspaper and social media output. He has no personal experiences to make him feel like this but his inner 1970s bigot has been dusted off and made to feel acceptable again.
To be fair I'm a tiny bit impressed he's prepared to express his views here as it's so manifestly not the normal view. When you know someone's a bigot it's quite hard to forget it even when the conversation is about brake pads or some other bike unrelated nonsense so it does leave a lasting aftertaste.
It’s more than a wee bit ironic when a Nazi declares his support for Jews. I hope the Israelis tell him what he can do with his support.
He's previously been on sponsored trips paid for by US based right wing zionist organisations, he's posed with machine guns on tanks and with IDF fighters in the Golan heights.
To be Israel is to be a pragmatist with only one aim - survival and self-advancement.
Israel collaborated on nuclear tech and intelligence with apartheid South Africa in the 1970s - when Vorster was president. Baltazar Johannes Vorster was interned during WW2 for pro-Nazi sympathies.
Before the US nailed its support to Israel (massively so since 9/11), Israel needed all the friends it could get - no matter how seemingly distasteful. That still persists to a degree to the present day.
He’s previously been on sponsored trips paid for by US based right wing zionist organisations
A couple of months ago he went to Canada to do a speaking tour paid for by a very wealthy zionist.
I think it all went tits up when the Canadian authorities arrested him under immigration legislation, ironically.
I think Lennon's main financial backers are all zionists, see my earlier link to the Times of Israel article about it
Zionists are pseudo-neo-Nazis so it all makes sense now
Blimey, it looks like His Majesty [Gawd Bless Him] is supporting the anti-fascist counter-demonstrators. I hope all his loyal subjects are paying attention
King hails community spirit against riot 'aggression'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj35mv0m5zno
"The King shared how he had been greatly encouraged by the many examples of community spirit that had countered the aggression and criminality from a few with the compassion and resilience of the many,"
He doesn't seem to be very supportive of those trying to defend Britian from immigrants and Muslims.
Could this be a case of two-tier royal rule? Waddju reckon tenburner?
King Charles the Woke.
So there was another far-right protest today which doesn't appear to have had much news coverage.
Apparently 4 muppets with a large union flag turned up at the Holiday Inn in Crawley West Sussex. I have no idea what they were expecting to do but they were welcomed by hundreds of anti-fascists. They obviously hadn't received the email informing them that the far-right insurrection is over.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgrk1zyzkgo
In the video (2.50sec) he says “If there was a war I would be there on the frontline fighting for Israel”.
Someone should remind him of his commitment and ask him why he isn’t on the frontline
Holy shit, seriously? The guy is just memeing now surely???
He’s not a mindless riot type – just the sort of middle englander that now feels emboldened to voice their feelings, no doubt revved up by a certain type of newspaper and social media output.
I know where I'm going to"file" him....
Has everyone watched Douglas Murray talk about sending the army in?, he doesn’t want Muslims here as they came in under false pretences, if you’ve not heard him before he talks like a poor caricature of an English inbred toff holding in a squirty fart.
https://twitter.com/bladeofthes/status/1821872756675244082?s=61&t=27Xz8oI3pGlaNEQvowJBcg
Murray is another hanger-on grifting and sniping from the sidelines. He's a media version of Jenrick - trimming his sails to the current mood within right of centre politics. As the Overton Window has shifted rightwards, so has he - otherwise he loses his USP.
He's a smug little shit with about as many genuinely held convictions as the spoon I'm about to use to eat my Frosties.
Apparently 4 muppets with a large union flag turned up at the Holiday Inn in Crawley West Sussex. I have no idea what they were expecting to do but they were welcomed by hundreds of anti-fascists.
Great to see my former home town doing it's thing. We left over 20 years ago and it was already very multicultural* due to all the staff working at Gatwick, never gonna be a great place for a far right protest.
*admittedly, still had idiots on both sides, but very few