[Closed] Avoiding the Jubilee

I'll be in the Alps with some mates and the good people of Bike Village taking advantage of a weeks leave for 3 days off.

Attention seeking fannies

+1. Hippy wierdos.

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Was going to add pathetic too, if you want to avoid then call your boss refuse the Extra Holiday and go to work.

In reality what you are saying is your going riding and will look down your nose at anyone who celebrates it but wants to make a political statement at the same time to feel more important.

It's not as if the queen cheated on Strava or got uplift at Hamsterly

Good old stw misery!!! I shall be having my haircut then going to roller world on Saturday, followed by a quick spin if all bones are in tact, Sunday is a beer fuelled day in derby without the kids for my birthday. Pick em back up Monday then just enjoy the four of us being together and not at work/school hopefully with a bit of flag waving aNd tombola chucked in!!

[i]Better to protest than be one of the doe-eyed, drool-chinned, unthinking worshippers of royalty[/i]

Are they the only two options? Get over yourself.

I think there should be a jubilee every day. it might just remind everyone as they wave a little plastic union jack that the 1000 richest people in the UK - of which the Queen happens to be one - are £150bn better off between them since the banking crisis of 2008.

Just to put that into perspective, our glorious figurehead and her chums could between them clear the deficit that the condems are clearing by sacking you and your neighbours and still be £70m better off each than they were in 2008.

God bless you M'am, we're all in this together.

Tis a good point, BUT not Queenys fault, look at any other nation with a monarchy or not the top percentage could pay off the debts no problem.

Was going to add pathetic too, if you want to avoid then call your boss refuse the Extra Holiday and go to work.

Do you think that non-Christians should work on Christmas and Easter?

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Do you think that non-Christians should work on Christmas and Easter?

Take the Northern line to Kings Cross then change to the Metropolitan westbound. Easy.

Do you think that non-Christians should work on Christmas and Easter?

Go into any Spar that is open on Christmas day. that will answer your question.

Take the Northern line to Kings Cross then change to the Metropolitan westbound. Easy.

Careful 'theflatboy', some of the provincials won't get that one.

Do you think that non-Christians should work on Christmas and Easter?

No merely that if it bothers you that much......

Alienation is my middle name. Especially when it comes to the peasants. 🙂

As neither are exclusively Christian festivals, what difference should ones religion make to taking time off?

None, which was my point. My contract says I'm entitled to paid leave on designated bank holidays. My political or religious beliefs have nothing to do with it.

No merely that if it bothers you that much......

It doesn't. I'm a republican, and don't intend to join in the celebrations. If other people wish to, that's their choice.

[i]In reality what you are saying is your going riding and will look down your nose at anyone who celebrates it but wants to make a political statement at the same time to feel more important.[/i]

Nah, I think you're looking too deep. It's simply avoiding something we're not interested in. Like Eastenders (although I do look down my nose at people who watch that)

I shall mostly be riding in the Galloway Forest

trailmonkey - I'm "on the fence" regarding jubilee, royalty etc as I don't really agree in principle but they do bring a lot of money in for the country. I am interested in the comments ref the top 1000 being able to clear the deficit and still be better off than 2008 - do you have any uaseful links to this info?

thanks

nacho

My contract says I'm entitled to paid leave on designated bank holidays

royalty - they do bring a lot of money in for the country

Are you sure about this - how exactly?

Employment contract trumps principles every time!

What's principled about doing an extra day's work that I'm not paid for?

What's principled about doing an extra day's work that I'm not paid for?

I'm trolling a bit really (I guess you can tell) but there's a valid point in there. Somewhere.
Doesn't bother me how anyone spends their day, I hope they enjoy it whatever they choose to do.

Well none, unless you support the protests. You would be paid for it though I assume, you just wouldn't be taking the time off. Time off which has been given for the exclusive purpose of celebrating the jubilee.

Celebrating the jubilee isn't mandatory, just as celebrating St. Stephens day isn't mandatory. It's a bank holiday, that's all.

Regarding pay - I get paid leave, which includes bank holidays. If I went to work, that's an extra worked day.

its a relief to see so many others bewildered by all this monarchy bollocks, i dont hate them enough to protest, and ill happily take the two days off, but i do refuse to participate in any pathetic celebrations (although I cant bring myself to remove the union jack bunting some massive git has stuck on my house) - so as mentioned in another thread were off to Wales to hopefully sail, sunbathe and ride bikes!

I swerved the royal wedding with a weekend at Glentress & Innerleithan. was tremendous!

travelling north of the border to ride my bike and consume fruit based drinks

teef - the amount of Americans (and others) that love the monarchy and come over here mainly due to our heritage is incredible and the commercial spin offs are vast. Whether they bring more in than they cost in I have no idea, which is one of the reasons why I'm not particularly pro or anti royalty. I do know less foreigners would visit and spend their bucks if we didn't have them.......

but i do refuse to participate in any pathetic celebrations

Each to their own I guess.

I'm just glad I love in a village where everyone is getting together for a big bonfire and party on Monday afternoon/Eve.

I suppose its different in small communities as we all look at it as a get together for friends and family. I wouldn't call it pathetic.

I suppose its different in small communities as we all look at it as a get together for friends and family. I wouldn't call it pathetic.

There's a street party in our road (though I don't know the people organising it, as they're about 15 doors along). I'd happily participate, but for the inevitable flag waving and loyal toasts. It just makes me cringe! I suppose it's a bit different to the religious stuff at Christmas, which I avoid by not going to church...

[i]On Sunday 3 June 2012 Republic will hold a major protest against the monarchy at the Thames Diamond Jubilee Pageant. With thousands of republicans expected to attend, this will be the biggest and boldest anti-monarchy protest in modern times.

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FFS !.
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Some people just never grow up.

the amount of Americans (and others) that love [b]the monarchy[/b] and come over here mainly due to our heritage is incredible and the commercial spin offs are vast

Do you actually have any proof of this? Plenty of Americans (and many other nationalities) also go to France, Italy and Greece and they don't have any royal families. Tourists come to see the heritage - not the royals.

God, there's some grumpy people about.

We were asked to help organise a Jubilee Party (even though we're away at the TT as of tonight) we agreed to help

I was expecting as we went round knocking on every door in the street for there to be a lot of negativity towards it.

But 2 things happened

1) Most people thought it was a brilliant idea and were well up for it. Lots agreed to help.
2) We now know approximately a bazillion people on our street that we'd never spoken to before.

How can that be bad? It can't. So you grumpy asshats ARE in the minority. Good. 😀

Why does it make some people so apoplectic and full of hatred that some other people don't want a monarchy? 😕

I was expecting as we went round knocking on every door in the street for there to be a lot of negativity towards it.

But 2 things happened

1) Most people thought it was a brilliant idea and were well up for it. Lots agreed to help.
2) We now know approximately a bazillion people on our street that we'd never spoken to before.

Sounds good, any excuse for a party is fine with me - still don't want a royal family though. If I was about I'd probably go to a party, but I'd prefer to be in Scotland mountain biking.

Do you actually have any proof of this? Plenty of Americans (and many other nationalities) also go to France, Italy and Greece and they don't have any royal families. Tourists come to see the heritage - not the royals.

Memorabilia sales for the Royal Wedding alone where in excess of £25 million. Wouldn't have got that without the royals.

Ooo, Ooooo !.

Grum, in Anti-Monarchy..... SHOCKER !!!!

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I don't think people are pathetic for either celebrating it or protesting. We live in a democracy with the right to free speech, therefore people have the right to do both or neither.

I live in quite a poor area, where the majority of residents are not British, so there aren't really any celebrations going on - people can't afford it, quite simply, and spending money on celebrating the existence of someone who already has ridiculous amounts of money and every creature comfort one could want, at the expense of hardworking people, seems a bit ridiculous in the community I live in where most people are on the poverty line and we have a lot of problems with social integration, drugs and alcohol, racism and mistrust among all nationalities living there, and unemployed yoof. I just don't think they relate to the Jubilee at all, and I don't see many events being organised in these sorts of communities to promote neighbourliness, community spirit and all that jazz - it's mostly concentrated within the middle class areas, or at least it is where I live anyway, I don't want to make sweeping generalisations about the rest of the country.

For me, the pageant and all just kinda highlights a lot of the debates around fairness, social inequities and the ever widening gap between haves and have nots in our society, and that's what makes me uncomfortable with it.

Sorry, I'm on my soapbox! Quiet afternoon at work 😉

Memorabilia sales for the Royal Wedding alone where in excess of £25 million. Wouldn't have got that without the royals.

Not sure if you're being ironic but if not:

£25 million worth of tat - I think we could of done without it.

Not sure if you're being ironic but if not:

£25 million worth of tat - I think we could of done without it.

You asked if the royals bring money in, I gave you an example.

[i]You asked if the royals bring money in, I gave you an example.[/i]

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someone suggested the other day in a discussion about this at work that cost to the state of the monarchy is c.£70m/a, while income from the crown estate is c.£200m/a.

anyone shed any light on these figures?

You asked if the royals bring money in, I gave you an example.

Not really. The only money "brought in" would be memorabilia bought by foreigners, and from that, we'd need to deduct any money transferred out of the UK (e.g. manufacture of the goods in China). I doubt it's very much at all...

[i]where the majority of residents are not British[/i]

Not British by nationality, or by ethnicity/culture/heritage?

[i]would be memorabilia bought by foreigners[/i]

And where do they live, eat, entertain themselves, etc, while they're here ?.
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For me it's simple- I want to live in a modern country with modern values and be seen to be progressive beyond and beyond reproach by the outside world. I simply can't see that we can be that country whilst there is a head of state that inherits the job. Income generated by their existance fars a long way behind in terms of importance for of what it says about us as a nation.

Having said that the most staunch fans of the royalty seem to be from the those with the least in society who are more than happy to line the street and wave a flag at the first sniff of a royal celebration so what do I know.

Just to put that into perspective, our glorious figurehead and her chums could between them clear the deficit that the condems are clearing by sacking you and your neighbours and still be £70m better off each than they were in 2008.

Errrrr, the deficit is an annual thing, once they've paid it off for this year, what are we going to do next year, then the year after? Then wonder why the the richest 1000 people have f***ed off to monaco and are no longer paying any taxes, so our taxes go up.

Bessides, 2008 was the low point (supposedly), why not start your comparison with a good year (like early 2007), otherwise yoru stat just says that 1000 people are better off now than they were at the worst point of the recession.

I'm not Tory, I just hate the crap use of statistics.

"And where do they live, eat, entertain themselves, etc, while they're here ?."

1. You don't have to come to the UK in order to buy the memorabilia.
2. Few foreigners would be making a special, additional journey.

[i]2. Few foreigners would be making a special, additional journey.
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Nope, they're here on holiday anyway, and what do you know !.

Its Jubilee time, again.

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You lot really are an up-tight bunch of miserable gits.

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Oh, and btw, [i][b]While they're here[/b][/i].