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A day with Jedi will sort this - if your lad was performing a faultless manual down the pavement for hundreds of yards , he'd have actually received a round of applause and a piece in the local gazette.
Bet the old git in the car was kerb crawling looking for prey.
"It's more fun riding on the path anyway, you can bunny hop off dropped kerbs and buzz young mums with prams & Play chicken with old people shouting 'out of the way grandad' as you approach."
You've seen me ride, then.
Having spent quite some time in a wooden house with DezB and his punk named offspring I can confirm that said offspring is well mannered, thoroughly reasonable and a downright splendid sort. DezB on the other hand is a bloody anarchist and needs a stern talking to.
Bet the old git in the car was kerb crawling looking for prey.
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Nicely done Fisha!! Chapeau to you!
Who's this debz? Is she fit?
You would
I'd do a rip in a welly. Got her number?
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The government says that pavement cycling is ok, provided you don't act like a dick. Which seems like a perfectly sensible compromise.
Yet current U.K. Law says it's illegal.....
Yes, exactly the same law which says driving onto the pavement in order to park is illegal. The day plod start enforcing that one is the day I'll start paying attention to what the law says about cycling on the pavement. Sure it might be whataboutery, but you should check the stats on pedestrians killed on the pavement by cars compared to bikes, and in my personal experience pavement parking is way more of a problem (and far more antisocial) than pavement cycling.
As a parent, I know that righteous indignation is a valid replacement for considered reflection and anyone who dares to criticise my child should be punched in the face.
I get the feeling the police have really got better things to do given the number of times I've ridden on the pavement past the local bobby shop.
Personally I never ride on pavements and believe it wrong for anyone to do so. It more than RLJ even really pees off the public in general.
Don't do it.
Theres an easy solution to this.
Teach your lad to respond with "**** off you nonce" - and then they go away.
Nothing like some straight to the point, no quarter given, simplistic British insults to get people to leave you alone.
I'd rather see any cyclist on the pavement if they're not confident mixing it with traffic.
Way too many hot headed motorists on the road and the nearly 20 year old road traffic act is out of touch with the modern world.
My 9 year old cycles to school on pavement with me walking behind with dog. He knows if people are coming towards him and not enough room to pass he stops and gives way to them. It's all about showing consideration, which should go both ways.
^^^ extract earlier from Highway Code indicates that if aged under 10 shouldn't be a problem. Suggestion though is that over 10 they should be on the road, which I agree is not always the safest option for the child.
Yes, exactly the same law which says driving onto the pavement in order to park is illegal.
Which law is that, then?
It's a local bylaw in London that you cannot park half-on the pavement. Not in the rest of the country AFAIK.
er, exactly the same law. The one iainc quoted on the previous page. Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835.
Strange how a kindly old man in a vehicle tells a young lad its against the law to cycle on the footway and gets condemed by a parent who condones it, despite quite a few of us other cyclists pointing out it was and is aginst the law,and gets cyclists a bad name, wonder if the same parent would have been so upset if a police officer in uniform had told the son not to ride on the footway and as a reminder heres a fixed charge notice.Quite a few police forcs are currently enforcing footway cycling prohibition.
er, exactly the same law. The one iainc quoted on the previous page. Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835.
Hmm. Interesting. That would tie in with the notion with needing a dropped kerb on a driveway otherwise you're technically driving across the footpath.
How is "lead or drive" defined here exactly? That suggests you could be arrested for [i]pushing[/i] a bike on a pavement?
And why does London explicitly have its own bylaw if it's actually covered by that act? Does it not count as "driving" on it if you've still got two wheels on the road, or if you're parking rather than proceeding, maybe?
as a reminder heres a fixed charge notice
Not to a 14-year old there isn't.
Strange how a kindly old man in a vehicle tells a young lad its against the law to cycle on the footway and gets condemed by a parent who condones it, despite quite a few of us other cyclists poin........
Who poked your cage? Get back under your bridge. 🙄
I'd be more inclined to tell him to get on the pavement rather than ride on the road, for his own safety if nothing else,
The amount of nobbish driving and 'get orf my road' entitlement I see is staggering nowadays, no one wants to share the road and don't dare get in the way..
Brits attitudes to cars are like yanks to guns,
Sloppys on DeBz???
[quote=project ]Quite a few police forcs are currently enforcing footway cycling prohibition.
As discussed above, how many are enforcing prohibition of driving on the footway? When they start doing that is when I'll start considering it might be a problem a 14yo riding on the footway.
[quote=Cougar ]How is "lead or drive" defined here exactly? That suggests you could be arrested for pushing a bike on a pavement?
Clearly it's a very old law which predates bicycles (and cars) so it's a bit vague - I think in theory pushing a bicycle is also prohibited, but then IIRC so is pushing a pram!
And why does London explicitly have its own bylaw if it's actually covered by that act?
Because the London law covers something slightly different and requires a different level of proof. Outside London it is perfectly legal to park on the pavement as long as you use a crane to put your car there...
Project arse-types a load more words and all he can come up with is a question that has already been answered. Special.
yet again stupid childrens playground insults to what is a serious question and answer session about cycle and pedestrian safety.
You think anyone takes you seriously? 😆
despite quite a few of us other cyclists pointing out it was and is aginst the law,and gets cyclists a bad name,
I'm sure the person who's son rides on the pavement is more worried about him getting home safely than cyclists getting a bad name. And my thinking is the same when I ride on the pavement, I'd rather get home safely and couldn't care less what people think. Although there's no need for cyclists to get a bad name with a bit of common courtesy towards pedestrians 😉
Actually maybe everybody should start riding on the pavement, it might make people realise how bad the problem is and would probably do more good than a stupid letter or petition 😆
No point getting seething about the old codger. Your son didn't seem to be shaken by it anyway, probably thought it was a bit of a laugh.
Regards cycling on pavements...No reason not to do it at certain times in my book. I do it often when I've got the wee boy on the front seat. Never ever had anyone moan about it and I wouldn't care if they did. I've cycled past police officers who smiled and said hello.... It's not an issue if you're not skidding around scaring people.