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Aren’t collective nouns brilliant?!

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Having established that a group of middle-aged mountain bikers is a ‘faff’ and my personal favourite being a flamboyance of flamingos, Mrs Binners was telling me she saw a big group of goldfinches this afternoon. I thought that seeing as the English language is just so bloody fantastic, there had to be a collective noun for them. Turns out it’s a ‘charm’ of goldfinches.

Whats your favourite collective noun?  There are some absolute belters 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 8:46 pm
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A muddle of guinea pigs, I’ve always thought that quite apt.


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 8:52 pm
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A kaleidoscope of butterflies - fits perfectly


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 8:55 pm
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A "murder" of crows and a "parliament" of rooks are pretty cool.

And there is also a collective noun for collective nouns - it's a "catch" of collective nouns 🤣 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 8:55 pm
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Following on from the last post we have “An unkindness of ravens”. 

I’ve never been sure if it’s true, but I was told that the collective nouns for beggars is a “fighting”. 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:12 pm
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A "side" of morris dancers.

 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:14 pm
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… oh, and as this is a forum for old men who used to cycle I should add ‘a bike of wasps’. 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:14 pm
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It's only murder if there's more than 3 crows, anything less is just attempted 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:15 pm
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A muddle of guinea pigs is absolutely brilliant! I never knew that (which is exactly why I started this thread - to learn stuff)

Isn’t language amazing? Whenever and wherever these collective nouns come from, someone has clearly really thought them through 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:15 pm
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A "murder" of crows and a "parliament" of crooks are pretty cool.

FTFY


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:21 pm
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a shower of ****s


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:29 pm
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Partial to a business of ferrets. (Orig. “besynes“)


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:35 pm
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From morse, a body of pathologists


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 9:39 pm
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I've also heard "mob" being used as the collective noun for crows.


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 10:39 pm
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I think a 'faf' of cyclists/mtb's is winning so far.


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 10:49 pm
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I call my dog a 'flurry of fluff'

But that's a singular used in a plural context, and bad grammar.


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 10:52 pm
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A bunch of Americans


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:00 pm
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A wunch of bankers?


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:17 pm
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A Farrage of Russians.


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:24 pm
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A Gammon of Poms? 😲 


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:36 pm
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Are these just an English thing? Do other languages have similarly specific words for groups of things or do they just say 'a group of...'?


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:45 pm
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Posted by: GlennQuagmire

A "murder" of crows and a "parliament" of crooks are pretty cool.

 

 

FTFY

An alternative would be a "deceit" of MPs


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:55 pm
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Terms of venery - yes I believe so... given English is largely a language that borrows from other languages.


 
Posted : 10/12/2025 11:56 pm
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Are these just an English thing? Do other languages have similarly specific words for groups of things or do they just say 'a group of...'?

 

No, it's a double entendre...there's a bit of French for you!

 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 12:00 am
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A Parliament of Owls is my favourite 

 

One they should use is a multiplication of half-wits. The more there are the thicker they become 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 12:22 am
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 a multiplication of half-wits. The more there are the thicker they become 

 

There's safety in numbers I guess, try starting a fight with a herd of cows and see how far you get.

 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 3:31 am
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Was reading yesterday about the shiver of sharks off the coast of NSW in Oz. First time I'd heard that.


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 7:43 am
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Prickle of hedgehogs


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 7:54 am
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When I saw the tread title a charm of finches sprang immediately to mind.

I’ve heard a group of statisticians being referred to as a sample


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 9:13 am
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A scurry of squirrels

 

 
Posted : 11/12/2025 9:26 am
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Thicket of Managers


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 10:00 am
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A raft of otters - when they are floating together. 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 10:29 am
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An embarrassment of Pandas - bit harsh tbf!


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 11:07 am
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Posted by: andrewh


Are these just an English thing? Do other languages have similarly specific words for groups of things or do they just say 'a group of...'?

No. Yes - 'troupe' of acrobats for example

I like the descriptive ones - crash of rhinos, tower of giraffes, gaggle of geese, hand of bananas etc.

Favourite - probably a round of drinks.

Slainte

 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 11:17 am
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A loverly bunch of coconuts


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 11:31 am
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probably a round of drinks.

'a round of' is interesting becuase it doesn't always mean a group of something - so a 'round of toast' is one slice of toast, but 'a round of sandwiches' despite being expressed as a plural is also just one sandwich

Is a 'round of applause' a singular thing or a collective noun?

 

 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 11:37 am
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And from the cycling press - a quiver of bikes.


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 1:46 pm
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An annoyance of scrum masters / agile coaches

 


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 3:05 pm
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A schwag of bike journalists? A preen of road riders? 😉


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 3:47 pm
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A constellation of starfish is my favourite - bet someone had a grin on their face when they thought of that one


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 9:12 pm
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I’m not sure if a number of starlings has a collective noun other than a flock, but from years of experience with them raiding the feeders hanging in my tree, my collective noun for them is a squabble. Two of them will start a noisy fight over who’s got first dibs on a feeder! Noisy little wretches! 🥴


 
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A bloat of hippos


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 9:51 pm
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When starlings are flying around together in a big bunch it's called a 'murmuration'. Everyone who has lived in Brighton knows this.

Other collective nouns for starlings are: 'cloud', 'chattering', and rather brilliantly a 'filth'.


 
Posted : 11/12/2025 10:43 pm