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Well, two time doper Justin Gatlin is!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/32734294

What an [b][u]un[/u][/b]believable time, eh?


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 8:04 pm
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Oooh you cynic!


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 8:11 pm
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I wonder if any of the commentators said "I don't know where he finds it!", like wot Lygett does?


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 9:35 pm
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At certain things, yes


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 10:00 pm
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Even more incredibly, he's faster than he was when he was [b]caught[/b] doping


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 10:04 pm
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At 43, I seem to be keeping up with 30 somethings downhill. Uphill, I seem to be holding steady, but have never been the quickest


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 10:06 pm
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No


 
Posted : 15/05/2015 11:22 pm
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At certain things, yes

Wimmin?


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 12:11 am
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Faster to collapse on the bed after a tough day!


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 6:25 am
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Faster to groan when I bend down to tie my laces


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 6:26 am
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Gatlin is a known cheat - perfectly reasonable to suspect he is still cheating now.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 6:46 am
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I seem to need a wee earlier in the mornings,so at least my bladder is.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 6:51 am
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Faster on the bike from A to B. Although I think that's mainly due to finding better shortcuts.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 7:11 am
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Slower on the running maybe, but getting better at general fitness. Probably faster on the bike too, but I need to run some of my old time trial routes to find out.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 8:35 am
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Immeasurably faster, so I now ride a SS fatbike to bring me back down to 'painfully slow'


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 9:19 am
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Perhaps he's The One?


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 9:39 am
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Gatlin is the red dot

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Posted : 16/05/2015 10:12 am
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Oh, [i]st[/i] i read it as [i]tt[/i], so no.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 10:19 am
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getting a lot faster now, I must be cos when i get back from a ride i am more knackered than before, and ache for longer.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 11:40 am
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This thread is doing an impressive job of following two entirely separate discussions.

Those who read the title and posted.

Those who read the first post.

As for Mr Gatlin... Bloody ridiculous! What's he thinking?!


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 11:46 am
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New currently undetectable PEDs or hard work, right conditions coupled with performance of a lifetime?

Spose an athlete in the twilight of their career may be more willing to chance taking PEDS


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 12:47 pm
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I could do with a course of whatever Mr Gatlin has been taking.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 12:49 pm
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Gains from doping last long after you stop taking them.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 1:34 pm
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[quote=cloudnine ]Spose an athlete in the twilight of their career may be more willing to chance taking PEDS

I'm not sure his willingness has changed much.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 3:15 pm
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Faster? No.
Rasta? Yah Man.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 5:14 pm
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Older I get the faster I used to be.... 😀


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 5:21 pm
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No!


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 5:22 pm
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I think it's fair to say that Gatlin has an especially large suitcase of "courage"


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 5:24 pm
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There's no such thing as a reformed doper, they either learn from their mistakes and get smarter about doping, or just carry on till they eventually get a lifetime ban.


 
Posted : 16/05/2015 5:30 pm
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There's no such thing as a reformed doper, they either learn from their mistakes and get smarter about doping, or just carry on till they eventually get a lifetime ban.

Should have been permanently banned on the 2nd offence if not the first.


 
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5th fastest 200m in history

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33307059

John Regis thinks he'll beat bolt (no form) and break the WR in Beijing. (For the 100m)


 
Posted : 28/06/2015 10:53 pm
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I think there must be a typo in the thread title if it's refer to myself! 😆


 
Posted : 28/06/2015 11:25 pm
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Yes much fatter. Oh, you said faster? Sorry, my hearing's going.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 5:45 am
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5th fastest 200m in history

Technically 5th fastest man over 200m, there are 10 faster times, shared by 4 people. But yes. Drugs.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 10:05 am
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Gatlin is loaded to the eyeballs. Allegedly in my opinion.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 10:22 am
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There's quite a long established track record of time triallers getting faster as they get older and quite a few national 25 mile TT champions have been 40+.

There's a chap local to me who usually places very high in the open 10 and 25s I do. Steve Dennis is, I think, 52 and last year won the season end 25 with a short 50 minute ride.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 10:33 am
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Common with endurance events. Not for sprinters though.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 10:54 am
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Common with endurance events

I wouldn't call a 25 an endurance event.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 11:08 am
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I know what you mean! 🙂

Physiologically I'm sure I read somewhere that even 100m is considered an endurance event as most of your "sprint" is usually spent by about 60m.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 11:13 am
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I overheard a conversation with an experiecned time trialist and a newbie at our club ten on saturday. They asked how they should ride/pace a ten. The response was 'pin it for the first half a mile and then hold on for dear life for the next nine and a half'.

Made me chuckle not least because it's exactly what was in my head.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 11:15 am
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Is interesting that, probably one for another thread though!

Pace a 10 using a PM and first third feels pretty easy, second third hard, final third is bloody hard. Read Wiggins talking about his hour the other day and how he'd split it into fifths, and how the first one was pretty much free given it was a pace he could sustain for an hour. Doing my first 25 on Wednesday which will be entertaining 🙂

Anyway, back on topic... yes, drugs!


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 11:21 am
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He's not yet 34 so improvement is not infeasible in my book, I think 34 is the apex for a bloke.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 11:29 am
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Doing my first 25 on Wednesday which will be entertaining

Not sure of your age but maybe this thread should be retitled 'old blokes who should be going slower....but aren't'.

This is my first full TT season, well pretty much since ever. I raced TTs as a juvenile but never anything other than 10s and only for a year or two.

I did a PB on Saturday (22:16) by deliberately slowing the pace down just a fraction on the way out and having more gas left for the return. I tend to ride them 50:50 as our local course is a straight out and back (as are most ten courses) but actually psychologically speaking I think the 'rule of thirds' works better.

If you're using a PM then a good rule of thumb is that your average power for a 25 will be around 95% of that of a 10. Weirdly my PB for a 25 (55:54 but it was a good day and it's a pretty quick course - P885) netted a higher average speed than my PB for the 10; 27mph vs 26.9mph.

Where are you doing your first 25/which course is it?

Riding it in thirds feels far more natural on a 25; the first third feels OK, the last third you just pull the pin and go for it, bouyed by the sense that the pain will soon be over. It's the middle third that hurts the most and is hardest to push through.


 
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geetee, shall pop this over to your [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/today-i-beat-the-hour-for-a-25 ]25 thread[/url] as seems more appropriate for discussion.


 
Posted : 29/06/2015 11:53 am