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In the download queue, maybe tomorrow? I'm sure as an early adopter it will be 100% bug free and I'll be delighted...

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Posted : 17/09/2014 10:34 pm
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gizmodo says don't install it on a 4S


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:41 pm
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Ta 🙂


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:42 pm
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Too late! Does seem to have cured the docking issue.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 11:03 pm
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ArsTechnica go into a bit more detail (which Gizmodo basically just cut-and-pasted). They say to consider it. It does makes a 4S measurably slower but it does give nice new features:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/09/ios-8-on-the-iphone-4s-performance-isnt-the-only-problem/


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 11:09 pm
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My 5 wil be getting the download as I've hated it since the day I got it. Its battery is shite and mobile internet connection poor. Hopefully it will make a bit of difference?


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 6:58 am
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It'll make no difference to your network connection but may make a difference to the battery, might last less time. Smartphones hammed the batteries so they really don't last very long it you use them a lot.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 7:00 am
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Smartphones hammed the batteries so they really don't last very long it you use them a lot.

Yep, the battery in my 4S is completely baconed.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 8:10 am
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The battery in my 4, only gives me about an hour of pork time, before it fries.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 8:15 am
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Done the update, so where are all my photos that were in photo stream?


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 8:47 am
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Done the update, so where are all my photos that were in photo stream?

You did do a backup before you upgraded?


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:02 am
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Yes, I always back up to iCloud. However I've restored the phone, but still running ios8, and they now seem to be appearing in 'collections>moments'


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:06 am
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Wot you lot goiN on about?

iT's fiNe.. Well miNe iS (so far).

i'Ve also done the iPad and that's workiNg fiNe too..

i'M hopiNg that Eurosport works laters on liKe cos' i want to watch Jens go around iN ciRcles riGht up hiS own backsiDe 😀


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:07 am
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My 5 wil be getting the download as I've hated it since the day I got it. Its battery is shite and mobile internet connection poor. Hopefully it will make a bit of difference?

Perhaps the phone has a faulty ariel, when the mobile signal/connectivity is poor the phone uses lots of battery trying to reconnect. I've had this with my 4S. Sometimes when you drop the phone it appears fine but the ariel connection (which is round the outside) gets damaged.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:07 am
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4S now running iOS8 - all fine, no negative performance issues.

As someone who's eyesight is not what it was the fact that text scaling (ie larger) now works over more apps, notifications and in menus so much better. More mail options on swipe (a tiny bit useful). Not had time to look at healthbook, tips app quite useful found out some new things. Just looking at battery usage, phone seems to be running full time (1.5hr on, 1.5hr usage battery 95% remaining seem too good to be true), mail using 44% of battery so far. Following this will appeal to my geek instincts.

High variable download times, my phone finished overnight, gf's still not done after 8 hours.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:14 am
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Mavericks update just released too. Seems a bit strange to overload the servers even more but perhaps they are on a different "set".


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:44 am
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My Photostream gone too!!!


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:50 am
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New keyboard features, lots of "emotion thingies", bikebouy they even have some suitable for gold iPhone users - red high heels for you ?


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:55 am
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Mavericks update just released too. Seems a bit strange to overload the servers even more but perhaps they are on a different "set".

You'd think they'd use a peer to peer bit torrent style protocol for distributing massive updates to millions of people.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:56 am
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Favourite new iOS8 feature based on my 2 minute play? Finally - FINALLY - you can add emergency contact info (and blood type, allergies etc) to your medical ID that can be accessed from the lock screen.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 9:57 am
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[quote=hammyuk ]My Photostream gone too!!!

Mine's gone but all the photos are still in collections and therefore on the phone. It's quite confusing.

I'm a bit puzzled as to why Apple decided to release the iCloud disc thing when OSX doesn't yet support it in a final release.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:00 am
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Yes, definitely some photostream issues/changes, perhaps its moved or it needs to be resynched. All my photos I have taken are in the collections tab and I seem to have the shared photos taken by others so perhaps the photo stream doesn't show duplicates of your own photos which it used to ?


 
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I'm a bit puzzled as to why Apple decided to release the iCloud disc thing when OSX doesn't yet support it in a final release.

Allows the 1m + people on Yosemite Beta to test it ? new Mavericks out today but I don't think that has iCloud Drive


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:02 am
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Not the point though is it!
Its a feature that has just GONE - no warning, just gone.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:06 am
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Oh, here's another handy feature that I will definitely use. Shazam is built into Siri. Ask Siri "What song is this?" 😀


 
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Allows the 1m + people on Yosemite Beta to test it ? new Mavericks out today but I don't think that has iCloud Drive

In that case it should be a sneaky activation as they have the apple ID of the people on the beta. Asking people if they want to activate a feature they probably can't use is a bit silly


 
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Asking people if they want to activate a feature they probably can't use is a bit silly

To be fair, the update does very clearly tell you it won't work unless you're on Yosemite.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:10 am
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Ask Siri "What song is this?"

To which Siri will reply: [i]"WHAAAAT? I. CAN'T. HEAR. YOU. OVER. THE MUSIC."[/i]


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:12 am
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[i]Mine's gone but all the photos are still in collections and therefore on the phone. It's quite confusing. [/i]

Yes mine are all in 'collections' now but that was only have doing a wiping the phone and restoring. Now there's a load of apps that are showing as 'waiting', and have been for quite some time.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:14 am
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"Siri, what song is this?"

as more and more apps are splitting off in function-specific apps (I'm looking at you Facebook/Messenger and Google Drive/Apps) it's great to know I can at least delete an app now. Bye bye Shazam.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:15 am
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[i]To which Siri will reply: "WHAAAAT? I. CAN'T. HEAR. YOU. OVER. THE MUSIC."[/i]

Or more likely 'sorry I didn't quite catch that'.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:16 am
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To be fair, the update does very clearly tell you it won't work unless you're on Yosemite.

True but a quick straw poll of people who've activated it in the office indicates they assume Yosemite is whatever the latest OSX is in all but one case. Plus me.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:20 am
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if you plug it in to a computer you don't need any space to do the update.

As I was told.

AFTER I deleted everything.

🙄


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 10:24 am
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@picton, always best to do updates with computer, downloading major OS updates over wifi was one of things which caused some 4S wifi chips to fry.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:03 pm
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[fanboi on]

just loving the predictive words feature on keyboard, I am finding most messages I can compose with the words proposed once I've typed first one or two, very cool

clearly this feature already existed outside iOS somewhere 😉
[fanboi off]


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:05 pm
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New keyboard features, lots of "emotion thingies", bikebouy they even have some suitable for gold iPhone users - red high heels for you ?

Oh really? wowzeeeers, i'M off for a peek at that! ta.

[fanboi on]

just loving the predictive words feature on keyboard, I am finding most messages I can compose with the words proposed once I've typed first one or two, very cool

clearly this feature already existed outside iOS somewhere
[fanboi off]


Yup, me too. Rather liKe the fact that Apple have joiNed iN AndroiD keyboard siMpliCity..

iS there a shortcut for addiNg Caps after i'S yet? t'iS all i'M iNterested about TBH. 😆


 
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iS there a shortcut for addiNg Caps after i'S yet? t'iS all i'M iNterested about TBH

If you keep that up surely it gets added into the user dictionary for the auto correction ? 😉


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:41 pm
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lots of "emotion thingies"

More than the [url= http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4976 ]several hundred Emoji already available on older iPhones[/url]?

I have enough trouble finding the right smiley face as it is [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:42 pm
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Ohh, lots of smiLiEs, just found them out, diFferent segments too..

i Found the red heels, and a Man wearing a buzby hat, how cool...

Jolly fun 😀


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:45 pm
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[img] [/img]
(from my iPhone 4s on iOS 7)


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 12:58 pm
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Bing turned off for Spotlight. First thing I needed to do.


 
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@Graham - thats why the Apple Tips app will be good and the big text so I can actually see stuff ! A while ago my iPad keyboard split in two and I discovered that feature had been around for years 😳


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 1:00 pm
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if you plug it in to a computer you don't need any space to do the update

Mine said it needed 500M on my 5s, so I had to get rid of some of the mysterious "other" that was eating my storage. Having done that the update still failed with an "unknown" error leaving it needing a full restore. Seems like a lot of hassle to go through to get novelty emoticons.


 
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Seems like a lot of hassle to go through to get novelty emoticons.

Pay attention at the back - the "novelty emoticons" are one of the few things that aren't new. Plenty of other stuff is though:

https://www.apple.com/uk/ios/whats-new/


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 1:06 pm
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Yeah, liKe the double cliCk "home" key whiCh brings up "recents" 😀


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 1:54 pm
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Does anyone know what the shop stock situation will be like? Thinking about popping into my local Apple Store to have a look at the 6 plus and buy one.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 2:16 pm
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had a text earlier from o2 confirming my order was ready for dispatch, I asked and they said its a courier not royal snail. happy... I may actually get it before the weekend.


 
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Does anyone know what the shop stock situation will be like? Thinking about popping into my local Apple Store to have a look at the 6 plus and buy one.

They will have demo models to look at / play with and a mahoosive queue of people trying to get their hands on one for a play. Wait time for an pre-order is currently 3-4 weeks I think.


 
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You'd think they'd use a peer to peer bit torrent style protocol for distributing massive updates to millions of people.

Probably using akamai or A N Other content distribution network. Might be difficult to blacklist or withdraw stuff from a bittorrent swarm.

That said, Blizzard use it for WoW / Diablo etc... but I guess they are a lot easier to rush another mini patch too than a whole OS.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 4:26 pm
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Cheers Peteimprezza seems I'm legible for a new battery.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 5:58 pm
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Upgraded my iphone 5 and seems to run Ok certainly not slow. All photos and emails still there although the new album will take some getting use to. The new predictive text is good though I do like that.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 11:12 pm
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Was kind of hoping for lower case letters on the keyboard when typing in lower case...push for Gmail would have been nice too.


 
Posted : 18/09/2014 11:31 pm
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Gmail is a separate app though so up to them to sort that out.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 5:32 am
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anyone tried IOS8 on a 4S?


 
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@Drac, you are very welcome

@stevemorg , yes, no problems at all


 
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installed ios8 on my 4S this morning, seems ok in terms of performance. Allegedly it is supposed to be slower but doesn't seem too bad. It is the 64GB version so maybe that helps. It'll be for sale once my new 6 arrives, allegedly by courier today... not holding my breath.


 
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Maybe a little bit excited...

[img] [/img]


 
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anyone tried IOS8 on a 4S?

Yes and we already posted about it 😉 Runs fine on my 16GB phone. I like it very much especially predictive text, larger fonts and more apps carry the font size over, double click last contacts. Make sure you do a backup to your computer and I would suggest downloading the update via iTunes, The gf had a problem with her 5 and had to restore phone from backup but the update worked second time around.


 
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And on a sliGht tangent..

Anyone used/triEd iMovies yet? i had a peek last niGht but iT looks kinda complex 😐
i Haven't uploaded iT to my MAC yet cos iT looks liKe i'Tll stiLl be loadiNg thiS tiMe next year 😛


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:23 am
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Not used iMovie but I do use Pinnacle Studio on the iPad which is pretty good.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:28 am
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iPhone 6 just got delivered.

....unfortunately, it's for my brother. UPS guy said he had about 25 to deliver today.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:29 am
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@Jamie well if it where my kids they'd be trying out their siblings stuff pronto.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 11:54 am
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My delivery date just came forward, tomorrow am apparently....


 
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Had a play with a 6 Plus today.

The size looks ludicrous at first, but the more you use it the better it feels.

Disappointments for me coming from an Android phone thinking things would be intuitive:
- The card system to check running applications.
- No automatic rotation when trying to use the phone horizontally to type/browse.

Other disappointments
- The much hyped manual camera mode. You now have exposure control which then fiddles with shutter speed for you. Not really full manual mode like some articles light on substance would have you believe.

Will probably wind up getting one just for a change, and partly to check if Omnifocus integration will change my life like I want to though.


 
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- No automatic rotation when trying to use the phone horizontally to type/browse.

It should rotate, it could have been locked though.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:24 pm
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- No automatic rotation when trying to use the phone horizontally to type/browse.

Very surprised at that. You sure rotation lock wasn't activated, as even my crappy 4 does the above.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:25 pm
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same here, my delivery has come forward to tomorrow 🙂


 
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Probably was locked. I checked the settings to see if there was something going on there, but it wasn't "intuitive"!


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 9:46 pm
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checked the settings to see if there was something going on there, but it wasn't "intuitive"!

Slide from the bottom and untick the little padlock. Done.


 
Posted : 19/09/2014 10:40 pm
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The card system to check running applications.

Interested why that of all things was a disappointment?


 
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Had the 6 for a day now. It's lovely to use and the big screen is very nice. Not sure if the size is going to be annoying as an every day phone though. I've not seen a plus but that will be way too big IMO.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 10:10 am
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Just had a quick play on my brother's iPhone.

My 4 is a bit slow in comparison.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 10:53 am
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Interested why that of all things was a disappointment?

Well, it annoys me. I want to see more than a handful of my running apps.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 11:42 am
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I guess it depends on your expectation.
As I said earlier its not a Task Manager. It doesn't show running apps, just the most recent ones.

If you're expecting a process list with details of CPU, memory use, swap state, resource allocation, child processes etc then yeah it's not that, but that's a deliberate design decision. Phone users shouldn't need a computer science degree. 😀


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 11:59 am
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Being able to see running apps at a glance, rather than just the app I'm using, and the two I can remember using just now, would be more useful. Swipe, swipe, swipe…


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 12:04 pm
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Ironically, one of the few things that Apple have copied off of 'droid… looks good but not useful.


 
Posted : 20/09/2014 12:05 pm
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mine is here, 64gb, got all my music on 8000 tracks, plus room left over

had a 4s before, screen on the 6 is much better, looks quite a bit larger cos its kinda gone up 2 sizes from my 4s

think i will get used to it, typing texts when used landscape mode make the buttons nice and big so thats good

now just got to wait on a case ive ordered, ad not damage it till it turns up


 
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Had a quick play with a 6+ today, and I was very impressed; it didn't feel too huge, but I have fairly large hands and the slimness of it helped. I like the double-tap feature that drops the home screen down to allow the user to access the top of the screen one-handed, although I hardly ever use my phone one-handed anyway, but the portrait/landscape rotation is really nice, and that will come in useful.
I was watching some demos of time-lapse videos, and they look absolutely stunning on the larger screen, with really rich colours.
Looks nice in gold, but mine, when I finally get it, will be in an Otterbox Defender anyway, so the colour is irrelevant.


 
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