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Thinking a TDV6 Vogue/HSE - maybe not for a few months yet, but fancy one.
Fuel costs aside, are they wallet raping?
A mate had one, ~£350 per tyre.
God help you if anything goes wrong as well
Tyres aren't a big issue for me - 4 x Bridgestone Duellers for my Pick-up = £300 + vat fitted. I have a mate - mebbe just one, but I do have one.
Fair enough, i think he was replacing the ones that came on it, pirelli skorpions (I think).
To give you an idea he had it for about 5 months, then got shot of it quickly, can't remember the exact costs but it would have crippled me
How do you get on with the Duellers? I found them hard wearing but not that grippy.
My mother runs a 10 yo one. Water pump went on the M4. Engine seized. Ten grand to fix a car worth 8.
Bargepole.
A friends ex wife has one, she doesn't care how much it costs, he pays for it!
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Oxboy - MemberHow do you get on with the Duellers? I found them hard wearing but not that grippy.
Yeah, fine if you know how to be gentle/exploit them in the wet (can be fun) but great through standing water that would have some vehicles aquaplaning and found them fine in mud and snow - it's just greasy roads. I get 40k out of a set front and back.
I have been thinking the same but after some research I decided against it. My wallet has been raped enough as it is, I'm not sure if it could handle any more.
My mother runs a 10 yo one. Water pump went on the M4. Engine seized. Ten grand to fix a car worth 8.Bargepole.
I'm not a fan of the new rangerovers but this strikes me as a slightly irrational perspective. Any highish value car can have something like a water pump failure at 10 years, and obviously this would take out the engine. And generally the costs for replacing a high end engine at a dealership will be a good few K (though at 10K someone was being properly royally jipped unless they wanted a brand new engine from the manufacturer).
[i]I'm not a fan of the new rangerovers but this strikes me as a slightly irrational perspective. Any highish value car can have something like a water pump failure at 10 years, and obviously this would take out the engine. [/i]
No, more probable his mum didn't actually pay attention to the flashing lights and or 'bells'. It shouldn't take out an engine, unless there were other 'issues'.
My water-pump (535i) seized a few months ago, it ripped off the belt, smashed the fan and took out a pulley. The temp gauge shot up and an 'alarm' went off. I coasted to the side of the road and switched off the engine.
Cost me a new pump and belt plus assorted s/h bits - including labour, change from £500.
Bottom line with any car is that if it started new at £75k, it'll not be cheap to run. Doesn't mean it will be expensive though.
Labour is the same price, by manufacturer - so same as a Freelander, and at 6-7 years old you can use a specialist rather than dealer.
Consumables will also have stabilised in price.
Tyres are one thing that are dependent on the vehicle, but tbh my wife's Freelander is easy on them (50k on Michelins, at £200).
Probably worth getting it well checked, especially the electrics and ensure its got a good service history - and as soon as you buy it, full (wheels off) service to ensure all ok.
The only bloke I know who has one runs an LPG conversion on it. He wouldn't have any other version.
It shouldn't take out an engine, unless there were other 'issues'.
Quite often water pumps are run by the timing belt - very common for them to seize and take out the timing in one go. Not sure on that engine, certainly is on my new VAG engine. Indeed a family members 535i had the water pump pulley fail many moons ago, but fortunately it was an externally driven pump and made no odds as they could cruise off the road and limp home in fits and starts, but I think that's getting increasingly rare now as manufacturers go more and more shrunk and integrated to save weight and size.
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/reliability/search/92
That's an interesting link. What it shows, after a quick scout, is that the rangerover has almost identical failure rate and likelyhood, same average time off the road, similar mileage etc, as a Toyota Celica (but with a higher repair cost). The celica gets a rating at the top end of good, the RR gets at the bottom end of bad. Odd.
Rangerover:Reliability Index 293.00
Average Age 4.9 yrs
Average Mileage 56 230 miles
Time Off The Road (avg) 2.72 hrs
Average Repair Costs £517.88Celica
Reliability Index 36.00
Average Age 6.08 yrs
Average Mileage 56 200 miles
Time Off The Road (avg) 2.83 hrs
Average Repair Costs £336.04
And everyone's favourite bitching station, the Peugeot range, which is apparently notoriously bad...:
Reliability Index 58.00
Average Age 7.33 yrs
Average Mileage 64 960 miles
Time Off The Road (avg) 2.25 hrs
Average Repair Costs £185.09
I had this recently, deciding between a Q7 and a RR Sport TDv8. Went for the Q7 in the end as all the research I looked at said the RR would be a money pit. Mate had a pretty much brand new one and it did three transfer boxes at £7k a pop plus numerous electrical gremlins.
If you're not doing mega mileage in them, I'd risk it. The RR Sport was much nicer, sounded much better and was just a lovely place to be. Which is handy when you're sat on the side of the M25 in a cloud of steam/smoke.
I smell testosterone.