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your guess is as good as anyones!
Its not even a research facility, its a floating radar station for the US west coast to be used to monitor traffic in a region they done have ground stations.probably a perfectly innocent research facility.
S'just more filthy exhaust fumes innit?
clearly remember the days that all flights were grounded due to that Icelandic volcano..
Beautiful blue skies man..Beautiful
I haven't seen that colour blue since I was a nipper.. I could have wept as the planes went up again and we watched those beautiful skies disappear behind a milky haze
iffoverload - Stuff
ZOMG!! Do you think the Cumbrian floods were caused by a knock on effect because they're using this weapon system to create a drought in Syria to destabilise the region?!?!?one?
probably a perfectly innocent research facility.
Or more likely an SBX-1 missile-defence radar station:
Funnily enough, right next to one of our local trail spots is [url= https://www.metabunk.org/the-nerc-funded-mst-radar-facility-in-wales-is-not-a-haarp-installation.t3158/ ]a radar facility which some people have likened to HAARP[/url]
Could this have anything to do with the 2006 [url= http://www.geologywales.co.uk/storms/bowstreet.htm ]Bow Street Tornado[/url], just a couple of miles away?
(Or the storm which felled vast swathes of trees and trashed 2 of our local riding spots in Jan 2014?)
I doubt it, but it makes for funny banter.
๐ jive does it best!
Anyway pretty sure nobody here really knows anything about any of this first hand, funny comments are funny, believe what you like!
interesting reply from USAF @ 3:00
There does seem to be a growing trend that [i]any[/i] phenomenon that can't be easily explained to five year old in less than a minute must be some kind of global NWO conspiracy.
See chemtrails, flat earth, perpetual motion, satellites, terrorists, magnets, hadron collider, basic physics, etc etc
One step closer to Idiocracy.
but why do these conspiracy theorists do this? they only open themselves up to ridicule...
many seem to be perfectly rational educated people as well.
I'm not a conspiracy nut but... is it not the case that official statements,scientific reports and media coverage in the past have actually turned out to be complete lies and ass covering or just turned out to be plain incorrect etc?
is it not the case that official statements,scientific reports and media coverage in the past have actually turned out to be complete lies and ass covering or just turned out to be plain incorrect etc?
Examples?
And of those examples, how many of those were exposed by randoms shouting at YouTube videos in their mum's basement?
Is it not some sort of #enduro slang? Oh man, I totally railed that chemt.
I've said before about conspiracy theories; the thing I like most is their ability to contradict themselves yet coexist. So you can find people who think that HAARP is simultaneously 2 or 3 different, sekrit things- and it doesn't matter to them, because what's important is that you contradict the official story. So you can totally believe that it's a mind control weapon, AND that it shot down a TWA plane, AND that it causes gulf war syndrome, simultaneously. In fact, it's even better because it contradicts the official version 3 times.
Luckily I am married and therefore I get told what to believe without worrying about all this conspiracy guff.
Is it possible your wife is a lizard from the holomoon?
Being reptilian would explain why my girlfriend's feet are so cold.Is it possible your wife is a lizard from the holomoon?
is it not the case that official statements,scientific reports and media coverage in the past have actually turned out to be complete lies and ass covering or just turned out to be plain incorrect etc?
Yes, but that doesn't make the conspiracy nutters any more correct. If I can't find my phone, then accuse my wife of moving it & it subsequently transpires she didn't: It doesn't mean that the Government did it.
But i want a mad man who can cause earthquakes from his underground volcano lair
Just get Footflaps to build a new shed, put Binners inside and supply Curry with Garlic Naarn.
Job jobbed.
Plus there is a [i]bit[/i] of a difference between a small government department creatively massaging some figures to make them look good and an international conspiracy to project an artificial sky, convincing sheeple that the world is round and that outer space exists.
but why do these conspiracy theorists do this? they only open themselves up to ridicule
It's a side effect of living in an increasingly irreligious environment. Now that you can't blame the devil, you go for the next most evil option and not the next most rational or evidenced option,
tinybits - Member
A friend of mine used to work at the met office and 3 years ago moved to San Francisco working for NASA on atmosphere projects (I'm not clever enough to understand the whole thing).
She says anyone who believes chemtrails is a complete imbecile.
Of course she works for the man so must be lying!
Similarly I have a friend who works at the Met office with a very similar opinion. (They must all be indoctrinated!) Apparently one guy occasionally protests about their role in the chemtrail conspiracy outside of their Exeter HQ. Just the one guy, though.
Yes, but that doesn't make the conspiracy nutters any more correct. If I can't find my phone, then accuse my wife of moving it & it subsequently transpires she didn't: It doesn't mean that the Government did it.
makes you think though, doesn't it.
Now that you can't blame the devil, you go for the next most evil option and not the next most rational or evidenced option,
TO be fair we do know our govt has done conspiracies against us and has lied and misled us. The problem is they see it at every big event from JFK through to moon landings to 9/11. One rarely meets a conspiracist who only believes in one conspiracy and thinks the rest are BS though the evidence does support the view they often mislead.
some of the [s]attempts to sound clever and funny[/s] replies on here are less convincing than the majority of conspiracy theorist's drivel! kinda amusing nevertheless.
must be a bad day for the STW massive. might not be a worthy topic but still...
Can anyone explain why "The Man" wants us to believe to world is round? I can't actually think of a reason why it would actually matter either way but the Flat Earthers are convinced The Man is ****ing with us, the never tell me why though.
hmmm,if the world was round then all the trails should be kinda downhill.
i think.
some of the [s]attempts to sound clever and funny[/s] replies on here are less convincing than the majority of conspiracy theorist's drivel!
they're really really not
i think.
You didn't.
BRITNEY SPEARS does.
GrahamS - MemberExamples?
And of those examples, how many of those were exposed by randoms shouting at YouTube videos in their mum's basement?
I cannot really verify any details but you get the idea
of course this may have been done on imovie by some college kid. ๐
tip of iceberg?
Drac - Moderatori think.
You didn't.
why so mean?
if you were thinking you would know ๐
I was thinking that nobody would consider responding with that obvious and lame remark for more that 2 seconds, nevermind take the time to post it.
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iffoverload - Memberbut why do these conspiracy theorists do this? they only open themselves up to ridicule...
The point is to know something other people don't. (*) Ridicule is just other people showing their ignorance. There'd be no point if you never got a reaction.
(* and it's too hard to do this with actual facts, if you want to know things other people don't it's easiest just to make shit up)
I cannot really verify any details but you get the idea
I really don't think you need to. They are all pretty well known and documented:
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident ]Gulf Of Tonkin incident (1964)[/url]
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal ]Watergate scandal (early 1970s)[/url]
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair ]The Iran Contra affair (late 1980s)[/url]
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal ]Monica Lewinsky scandal (1998)[/url]
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay ]Guantรกnamo Bay (ongoing and a pretty dubious inclusion!)[/url]
What each of these clearly demonstrate is that nothing much stays secret for long and the more people you have involved the more likely it is to quickly become public knowledge (just ask Edward Snowden).
Yet people think "The Man" can cover-up daily spraying of populations with "chemicals" and the massive task involved in maintaining the illusion that the earth is round and that space exists. Despite the fact both of these would require tens of thousands, if not millions, of people to be complicit.
What each of these clearly demonstrate is that nothing much stays secret for long and the more people you have involved the more likely it is to quickly become public knowledge
What about the so-called moon landing?
I've seen these things spread across the sky turning what was a blue sky day into a cloudy ether when they all merge together......whatever it is, it looks a bloody mess!!
Who knows what really goes on in this world.....didnt something come out at that recent climate change conference where someone said something that eluded to the fact that they could spray metal particles into the atmosphere to counter global warming....it was early in the morning on Radio 4, i was still half asleep!
You could always ask Buzz AldrinWhat about the so-called moon landing?
@ GrahamS
False flags. Making you think that they are too incompentent to make you think that they're making you think what they're making you think. Makes you think, but not what they think they'remaking you think. Something else.
Who knows what really goes on in this world.....
David Icke?
Aye, there's quite a lot of basically sci-fi mad interventions being quietly investigated in case of catastrophic climate change. They're not good options, they're just what you do if you've managed to **** the climate to the point that anything's worth trying. Stuff like salt dumping into the ocean to influence currents (because desalination's a big concern with melting ice, imagine the gulfstream goes north or south...), surface and cloud albedo, propogating algae to soak up more co2... Terraforming earth, essentially.
If we start doing any of this stuff it's because we've screwed up amazingly though.
I doubt it, but it makes for funny banter.
Jesus Christ. That's the line in the sand there, if ever we needed proof. Discussion on STW truly has gone The Full Icke when JHJ is posting forum pages debunking it.
As an aside, I've just done a bit of digging on STW conspiracy-theorists past and present. Far as I can tell the vast majority of them appear to be based in (non-UK) Western European countries.
Makes you think, doesn't it.
Always loved this
That is quite brilliant crashtestmonkey, thanks. ๐
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MY primary kids enjoyed that as well
To quote "oh my god she is so stupid does she not realise water refracts light"
Personally I like the bit where she was amazed the visible spectrum was visible....hard to tell if real or a troll
