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It does look like i will be chopping it in though.

Chop it in in 11months time. Its got a guarantee for 12months so why sell now. Don't begrudge the whole car because one part failed.


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 5:16 pm
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I'm feeling lucky today so going to say 1.6hdi 59 plate Berlingo which has now been thrashed for 70k miles with only routine services and 1 broken central locking switch....

Bet it now goes bang on the M40 tonight... if you notice a red Berlingo on the hard shoulder give me a wave 🙂


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 5:16 pm
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Different version of a similar engine, the 130PS Mondeo TDCi. Turbo went and thew itself everywhere. Had the turbo replaced as cheaply as possible (still 900 quid), then soon after start getting engine management lights.

Fraud to their credit made them go away and it ran smoothly for a couple of months, but I was always sceptical as to whether bits ended up where they shouldn't. Consequently I made it someone else's problem before it could give me any more trouble.

Moral of the story - make sure it's done properly if you get the turbo replaced, or it really could end up being a new engine.


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 5:18 pm
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http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/technical/diagnostics/turbocharger-failure/

Here is some good reading
There is a great case study link on this page.


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 5:28 pm
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Interesting reading that


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 5:58 pm
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The DV6 isn't any more fragile than Ny other diesel, it's just there are SO many in circulation that you hear of more failures than you would - perpetuated by the fact they are used in Ford's, Peugeots and Citroens and so are apparently crap by default...

We had one on a Testbed for a year running ridiculous levels of EGR for sustained periods of time and had no issues at all. Ditto with stressing it in any other way on Testbed or car. Not denying there are some issues with it, but it is still a very very good engine.


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 7:03 pm
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This week a STWer who works at Citroen praised the engine but added they do need oil mesh doing. Do use a indie for services normally Rob?

I still wouldnt get rid. You have 12months warranty on it.


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 7:36 pm
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Toyota D4D 2.0 you say? Yes the cam chain / no DPF seemed a good choice at the time.
Known problem with carbon build up on pistons, leading to head gasket failure. To Toyos credit, covered under goodwill to 108K miles. My engine (57 plate Avensis) was replaced with factory rebuilt engine at 63K. Cost me nowt.


 
Posted : 15/01/2013 8:06 pm
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£922 fitted and a 12 month warranty on the turbo, how does that sound?


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 11:40 am
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price not important.

is he doing the work specified above.

can be 100 quid , if hes not following the proceedure you might as well burn your money.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 11:42 am
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I paid about £800 + labour IIRC for a new turbo.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 12:16 pm
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he says that the 12 month guarantee only comes into play because he is doing the required work so i hope so


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 12:35 pm
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get it all in writing then and fire on.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 12:36 pm
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£922 inc VAT? With the written guarantee on turbo AND labour to repair if it goes in 12months? After all he should be warrantying him putting it in there to make sure its fitted right. i.e. guarantee his workmanship.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 12:39 pm
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Will mention that


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 1:09 pm
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Do you trust him and why are you using them rather than anyone else? Main dealer? Indy specialist?


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 1:12 pm
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He is a mate of a very good friend so comes recommended. garage at Crosspool


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 1:49 pm
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Be careful of non gen turbos , not the quality of the rebuild or the unit , BUT when you try and claim they will ask for invoices , detailed with parts and labour for oil changes at 500/1500/3000 miles !!! And I've never had a customer make a successful claim !!! They always end up having to buy another .


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 2:04 pm
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The warranty lies with the garage doesn't it?


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 2:52 pm
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chrisdiesel could you please email me robjackson@hotmail.co.uk


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 2:53 pm
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FORD TDCI
Focus 1.8 TDCI (2001 to 2006)

@Trailrat - How come? I thought the 1.8 had a belt and the 2.0 was a chain? Interested as I'm looking at Focus' at the moment

I wouldn't go near one, TBH. Or a VAG diesel. Or anything French.

@PeterPoddy - How come? I'd disagree with VAG and French but perhaps been lucky. My Dad did over 150k in his with no engine issues. I did 100k on my 306 taking it over 180k and it's still being driven today. Everything else wears but the engines were solid


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 3:06 pm
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older PD vag cars were good , the 1.9 models but the newer ones aint so good

tdci

Injector failure,
Fuel pump failure,
Cam chain jumping,
Dual mass flywheel collapse,
Wiring faults,
ECU problems.

id imagine if you have a belt in the 1.8 you just take out the cam chain jumping.....

i love the older french cars - your 306 undoubtedly had the XUD TD engine - its an engine of legends .... modern HDi - id rather have a petrol.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 3:30 pm
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Quote. On friday driving home accelerated, no power, whoosh sound and whining when accelerating. Turbo pipe had some off afters eal had split.
Garage is now talking about the turbo going but not wanting to replace the turbo due to needing to do x/y/z as well involving a full flush of the engine (and there are bits that cannot be cleaned??
Engine management light has triggered the info - "anti pollution" fault
1.6 hdi 2008 berlingo 45k miles serviced when meant too. Quote

Same thing happened to me, simply get rid of it, there will be carbon problems and water in there somewhere, thats proberly knacked the turdo, sell it quick before it cost you a fortune.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 3:46 pm
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your 306 undoubtedly had the XUD TD engine - its an engine of legends

I had a 306 1.8 petrol. It did not move once in two years sat on the drive. Charged the battery and.....it started first time 😆


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 3:51 pm
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It was the XUD engine yes. Out of interest if the VAG diesels have these issues what about the diesel Skoda Octavia?


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 9:01 pm
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Have you checked its not just a split in the intercooler pipe dumping the boost from the turbo into the engine bay. Mine split on my Mondy 2.0 tdci pre frenchy engine and it had no boost at all, changed pipe 40 quid from ford all is now well.


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 9:29 pm
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yes - 2 garages have stated that the turbo is starved of oil and worn out


 
Posted : 16/01/2013 9:30 pm
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Hi, I've got a Berlingo 1.6hdi 57 plate, I've changed the turbo x 2, bango bolts and oil pickup done a couple of engine flushes and oil/filter changes, was going ok until I heard two short squeals and then lots of blue smoke and loss of power when I turned off the engine it continued to run for about 20 seconds there is no oil in rad topup.

I've previously changed EGR and cooler plus air intake valve.


 
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