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[url= http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37352312 ]James Dyson[/url]
Obviously a ****ing idiot. 🙄
Although I do think his stuff is overrated, apart from the hand dryers.
You obviously felt compelled to post this, why!
He got screwed over by some eu regulations, and he had a point, iirc something to do with energy efficiency of vacuum cleaners.
But the idea that free movement of people should end, but that he hopes people will still be able to travel and work in Europe is just contradictory incoherent stupidity.
And lets not forget that even though he had a highly successful and profitable UK based production facility, he moved that production abroad for greed.
Ignorant, perhaps but I see no evidence of racism or bigotry unless I missed the bit where he said no ****s or muzzies would be working for him.
Unless of course these are baseless accusations levelled simply because he has different political beliefs to you.
There's nothing the EU has done that's stopping him recruiting engineers from anywhere in the world.
Any restriction of movement of people into the UK from non-EU countries is entirely the UK governments decision.
Or just someone who shares different opinions to yourself? But carry on, keep throwing them insults around, that will win him over 🙄
If you felt that article 'proves' Dyson is a racist bigot then you hold very biggoted opinions yourself chum. And stop calling people racists you paedophile..
You obviously felt compelled to post this, why!
Because of the accusations of racism if you voted "leave".
Or are you going to pretend that has never happened? 🙄
Oh I remember the accusations, yes. What's your point Saville?
Hmm, not sure I agree with all he is saying but not sure how that makes him ignorant, racist or a bigot.
accusations?
Still don't get why you felt you needed to post this?
Are you related to him, have you got secret fellings for him?
He is posh, so probably a bit racist
Maybe a bit of ignorance on the impact to UK economy and resistance EU will have to allowing free trade without free movement of people but I don't see the racism or bigotry, what am i missing?
He isn't concerned about free movement of people or single market because he already runs a global business and employs mostly highly skilled workers who will still be mobile on a points based system.
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I'm confused
Was the OP being sarcy ? Or of is there something else he's said?
Dyson comes across as a bit of twit. But hardly racist, after all he moved his factory from the UK to Malaysia
He invented an expensive vacuum cleaner which doesn't seem to be used by cleaning professionals and fills tips. He invented effective hand driers which deafen people and drip puddles on the floor. He has made stylish fans and heaters which cost 5 times as much as the next best thing.
Doesn't mean he's racist. But self serving businessman is selfish isn't news.
Dyson is right; business with EU companies is often in small, unprofitable orders with lots of technical requirements that have to be met. Proper export business (my employer exports to over 100 counties around the world) is often in big, profitable orders with little by the way of technical complication.
Example:
Typical order to a manufacturer in the EU: lots of work and documentation for 10 kilos of product shipped. Result = loss.
Typical order to a manufacturer in Nigeria, Brazil, Russia, Turkey: 1,000 kilos to 18,000 kilos shipped. Result = happiness.
Gobochul is trying to convince himself he isn't racist by demonstrating that someone else who voted leave isn't a racist.
Spend years spouting on about British manufacturing and engineering. Then close down your UK factory and move it to the far East to save a bit of cash. I think we can understand why he might be in favour of leaving the EU.
Yes, the OP was attempting sarcasm.
As wwaswas said, there's no restriction on the hiring of nationals from other countries. We have Chinese, Malaysian, Japanese and Iranians working alongside Brits and Europeans. More complex? Yes. Prohibited? No.
So, he may well be, in this instance, ignorant.
Must have missed his Jim Davidson rant or did we get the wrong BBC link?
Hardly racist to have an opinion on leaving the EU, or are you one of the professionally offended I keep hearing about
Spend years spouting on about British manufacturing and engineering. Then close down your UK factory and move it to the far East to save a bit of cash. I think we can understand why he might be in favour of leaving the EU.
This.
Prices also continued to rise despite cheaper manufacturing.
Prices also continued to rise despite cheaper manufacturing.
Well, who hasn't got three hundred quid for a hairdryer? I've got two. 🙂
I have little time for James Dyson. He's not done anything revolutionary with his vacuum cleaners or hand driers (despite what he claims about the motor technology), and his main talent seems to be mass producing stuff in China and charging a 5000% markup on it in Europe.
Apparently his son is now into flogging "revolutionary" LED lighting to businesses at vastly inflated prices, and as far as I can tell the only thing he's done is whack a ruddy great aluminium heatsink on the back of the lamp and quintupled the price.
I agree with the OP - he's a racist, bigoted conman who's as undeserving as Philip Green and Mike Ashley of the so-called status that's afforded to them.
He was an arse when dealing with the Patent Office, he was convinced that he should receive special treatment. Got very hot and bothered when he didn't get it.
Calling him racist from that article is a stretch.
not this. Absolute tosh. He's done more for UK manufacturing than petty much anyone in recent years. He turfed out the production lines from his UK factory and replaced it with engineers and designers. Much better use of the space, currently 2500 professionals and about to double in size. He also sponsors loads of people in engineering education. He also pays his taxes. The numbers for that are staggering*Spend years spouting on about British manufacturing and engineering. Then close down your UK factory and move it to the far East to save a bit of cash.
*[i]Among the 54 billionaires resident in 2006 (the most up-to-date figures) a total of £14.7m was paid in tax. Mr Dyson alone paid £9m of that[/i]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-billionaires-who-do-pay-their-bills-including-james-dyson-and-jk-rowling-7873607.html
discovered or created the'Lifestyle' vacuum cleaner niche.
Don't forget the washing machines.
Def not an ignorant racist bigot he'll happily take anyones money 🙂
IMHO he whinges a bit too much - part of being a business man is working around issues and I think the taking the factory away was childish.
You don't want to look at his gaff though.
Among the 54 billionaires resident in 2006 (the most up-to-date figures) a total of £14.7m was paid in tax. Mr Dyson alone paid £9m of that
You're right - that is staggering. Genuine thanks for sharing. Nice to get something interesting and factual from the general morass of ill informed rubbish and unsupported opinion.
He's done more for UK manufacturing than petty much anyone in recent years.
I think you mean engineering. Unless by more you mean nothing, since they don't manufacture in the UK any more. From what I can see the number of production operatives he sacked is roughly equivalent to the number of engineers he has now. Yet he's stating that he can't employ enough engineers!
Nah, I don't think he's any of those things - he's just another arrogant type who thinks whatever is best for him, is best for everyone, because he's right and anyone who does anything else, is wrong. Or just as likely he'll try to sell the idea that the circumstances that suit him best, are best for everyone - he'd hardly alone in that.
Oh, you were being sarcastic.
How quaint.
No. I mean what I wrote. What do you think those engineers do? Ok they don't manufacture vacuum cleaners but they still use test equipment, machinery, etc which is often UK made and by higher tech industries. Basically manufacturing that is far more appropriate to the UK than production lines. Also his support of educaction including a massive building in Bath, engineering centre in cambridge and the hiring of graduates means there's a lot of engineers out there who owe a chunk of their career to him.I think you mean engineering. Unless by more you mean nothing, since they don't manufacture in the UK any more
Post edited on realisation of OP's sarcasm.
It's amazing how he couldn't manage to manufacture in the UK/ EU yet Miele continue to make better, cheaper vacuum cleaners, in Germany.
He got screwed over by some eu regulations, and he had a point, iirc something to do with energy efficiency of vacuum cleaners.
Because saving energy is getting screwed over, why?
Among the 54 billionaires resident in 2006 (the most up-to-date figures) a total of £14.7m was paid in tax. Mr Dyson alone paid £9m of that
His net worth is £5 billion, up from £3 billion two years ago. So on £2 billion of increased wealth he's paid a tax rate of ~1%.
Feel the value. (Quick and dirty maffs, but I bet he's not paying roughly 35% like most people).
discovered or created the'Lifestyle' vacuum cleaner niche.
sounds like most bike manufacturers 🙂
It's amazing how he couldn't manage to manufacture in the UK/ EU yet Miele continue to make better, cheaper vacuum cleaners, in Germany
This.
Why do people feel the need to defend him - he could've done a lot more for UK manufacturing. I assume when we've left EU he will be bringing his workforce back over here because it will all be so great.
The quote above stands, and like you say better and cheaper.
Then close down your UK factory and move it to the far East to save a bit of cash
I'm sure he made that decision unilaterally 🙄 and completely bypassed the board of directors, shareholders who would think they might want a return eventually.
Because saving energy is getting screwed over, why?
iirc the way power was measured did not actually relate to energy used. ie he claimed his design produced more power at a lower energy usage than his competitors.
His net worth is £5 billion, up from £3 billion two years ago. So on £2 billion of increased wealth he's paid a tax rate of ~1%.Feel the value. (Quick and dirty maffs, but I bet he's not paying roughly 35% like most people).
How much did he make in 2006?
Like all leavers doesn't mean he's a racist or bigot but like all he quotes something that's a lie. In his case about the engineers not being allowed due to EU regulations.
As I said he's probably done more than anybody in recent years for UK manufacturing. He's done that by supporting UK engineering graduates and undergraduates. Huge support for students in bath, bristol, Cambridge and Brunel. Loads of student engineering prizes and bursaries nationwide, support for patent applications. Bigger picture, long term stuff.Why do people feel the need to defend him - he could've done a lot more for UK manufacturing
Why do people feel the need to defend him - he could've done a lot more for UK manufacturing
Because maybe it's not his job to do more, his job is to make a profit ,
He has done well from the air filter off a tiger tank! (though it originated from filtering dust from grain silos) 😕