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Might be bit of a long watch if you are a Millenial…….. but this neatly sums up some of the problems we have in the Western World.
This is such bollocks I don't even know where to start. I have a lot of friends in London who are millennials, who work in tech - the companies they work for have generous work from home policies, duvet days, mental health days, pets at work days - all that kind of stuff.
Guess what? These young adults are constantly on their laptops working - we'd be sat having a drink at a weekend - one of them would suddenly have a bright idea and log into work from their laptop. These are youngsters who work in an irregular fashion but average 10-12 hours a day, they are marrying other millenials who are just as driven - who also work 10-12 hours a day.....these people also want children.....do you see where I am going?
What is happening is that the best companies are having to go Japanese (managing all aspects of their workers lives) to attract these type A personalities, to help them manage their lives and achieve everything they want (including having families).
Male boomers had the luxury of being able to work a high powered job and afford to have a stay at home wife who doted on them - millennials do not.
So on the basis they’ve asked for an alternate share of the reward you’ve already made a conscious decision that they are half way out the door
kryton, John didn’t say that their card was marked.
So on the basis they’ve asked for an alternate share of the reward you’ve already made a conscious decision that they are half way out the door.
You don’t know content on a public website is admissible in court – for instance an employment tribunal – right?
@Kryton57 Bloody hell, you're putting 2 and 2 together and getting 547. And a half.
You've moved the discussion onto somebody being sacked and employment tribunals. LOL, only on STW!
Good grief.
Look. You've said this is for morale and as a thank-you for the team. One of your employees now cannot make it due to unforeseen personal circumstances which you accept are valid. They must already feel pretty shitty about not being able to go, and probably are feeling horribly guilty about the whole thing.
Meanwhile, you and your management team have already spent way too much time stressing about this, overthinking it, and deciding to knock it on the head next year.
The jolly must be running into thousands. What's the day rate of an office junior temp to answer the phone for a few hours? Probably less than the first round of drinks. Give the poor sod the day off "as a gesture of goodwill," everybody's happy and you're loose change out of pocket.
kryton, John didn’t say that their card was marked.
No but he can be seen to have implied it by stating the position was one easily fulfilled by another person.
Glenquagmire, there's enough on here to make a decent fist of a tribunal. Personally I'd never be asking this kind of thing on a public forum.
No [s]but he can be seen to have implied it by stating the position was one easily fulfilled by another person.[/s] he didn’t, I got that wrong. Sorry.
FTFY. 👍
Make it end, please!
No but he can be seen to have implied it by stating the position was one easily fulfilled by another person.
As are most jobs, nothing new or unique there.
Make it end, please!
Agreed!
People really are just making scenarios up now that have nothing to do what I have said, done, expect to happen or have been challenged about by an employee.
I agree this can and should stop now.
Cougar for the win👍🏻
Retired recently after 40yrs on the shop floor of a multi national earlier in the year. Joined 8yrs after apprenticeship on another “industry” and could’nt believe the entitlement “ culture similar to what you describe which still exists today by those who ate still there. However things are changing and those who are now replacing us “oldies” are not getting the same perks as in the past.
You can change your culture if you think you have a decent business that does not require bribery to keep it viable.
MrsT used to have the same issues as a manager who had to organise “away days/training/team building” days. Sadly the rot had set in before she was tasked with organising said events. Issues with senior management and a mature female workforce and some really off the wall type of events did not go down well (Scot Gov) 2hr train journey there & back added to many who travelled 1/2 to 3/4hr to get to work did not go down well!!!! Managers who live and work in the “city” have little sympathy or knowledge of what people in rural areas have to do to get to work.
As an example my son secured a job in an unrelated discipline due to his skills that the business he got an interview with. The employer was so dissatisfied with the quality of graduates unable to do what he wanted and the riders re salary that they expected. Son got the job due to his skills for a fair bit less than a graduate. The company then paid for him to get a degree.
Moral is IMO. You can get the right people without all the add ons. If you can’t, move away to somewhere you can. Make more money👍🏻😏
People really are just making scenarios up now that have nothing to do what I have said, done, expect to happen or have been challenged about by an employee.
I agree this can and should stop now.
True.
Just like Brexit
Too much overthinking
From my shop floor point of view my face didn’t fit, stuck it out for 40yrs tho. If you value the guy find a way of quietly giving him something in the future. I have colleagues who have harboured serious grudges against their managers for such issues to the detriment of their health. Not that they would agree with that view point.
Johndoh,
Irrespective of what else, you have my respect for trying. Brilliant job fella.
Once again I despair at humanity and STW
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