[Closed] Aluminium free deodorant ?

Why would you want deodorant without aluminium in it?

Aluminium neurotoxicity

Aluminium, present most often in antiperspirants, but not usually present in non-antiperspirant deodorants, has been established as a neurotoxin in very high doses. At high doses, aluminum itself adversely affects the blood-brain barrier, it is capable of causing DNA damage, and has adverse epigenetic effects. Research has shown that high doses of the aluminum salts used in antiperspirants have detrimental effects to a number of species such as non-human primates, mice, dogs and others. An increased amount of aluminum is also present in the brains of many Alzheimer's patients, although this link does not seem to be causal.

So probably best not to eat your antiperspirant then?

only with something healthy like a salad

GrahamS - Member

So probably best not to eat your antiperspirant then?

hey matt, why dont you complain to your local swimming pool about the dangerously high levels of dihydrogen monoxide, its a major component of acid rain....

Define a high dose

It's not worth orrying about, aluminium is ne of the metals that you would have to be exposed to all your life and longer before it has an effect. Theres aluminium in water and form many other sources and it's considered safe as the levels of exposure are so much lower than the arbitraty "high dose" value that means nothing without tangible numbers.

hey matt, why dont you complain to your local swimming pool about the dangerously high levels of dihydrogen monoxide, its a major component of acid rain....

i dont go swimming and i dont go out in the rain 🙂

Lets all start a measles epidemic.

Back to the OP: I use Pitrock, which works quite well.

There's 2 versions - 1 is a crystal that you rub on your pits when you get out of the shower. It's Alum crystal, so I don't think it contains Aluminium in the usual deodorant format. The other is a spray which contains all sorts of ingredients, but not Aluminium. Of the two, the spray works better for me.

I started using it because standard deodorants made my pits itchy.

Wash frequently is the best deoderant - surely.

I use Tom's of Maine Woodspice or Calendula deodorant sticks. I tend to sweat quite a bit even just sitting in the office and this stuff works well.

http://www.tomsofmaine.com/products/product-detail.aspx?id=14&name=Natural Original Care Deodorant Stick&s3=MTR8OXw0MHw0MXw1Mnw1Mw==

Alu-free deodorant? Quite a few as mentioned.

Alu-free anti-perspirant? Very few indeed.

It seems you can stop the whiff in a tree-hugging way, but not the wetness.

Spookily I just started researching (googling) this meself yesterday.From what Ive read so far there may be a link with Aluminium deodorants and Breast Cancer - hope that it doesnt affect Moobs aswell 😳

don't forget that dihydrogenmonoxide is also found to makeup upto 80% of a dead bodies weight, I think the governement should do some research into it, but suspect as always the dihydrogenmonoxide lobby is too powerfull to get any meaningfull results.

From what Ive read so far ...

What you've read in peer-reviewed scientific journals or just what you've read on some random's "alternative health" website?

Another vote for toms of maine woodspice - seems to last ages.

best be carefull, tinfoil hats contain aluminium as well.

Apparently there is an added risk of breast cancer, using deoderant containing aluminium, in men and women. That isn't news btw.

The Body Shop do one, can't remember the name. It did work but not as good as Mitchium (full of aluminium)

Is it the aluminium that causes the staining on shirt pits? amoungst other things?

m.

You'd be better off making sure you don't cook with aluminium pans. Especially if you use metal cooking implements.

I've found i sweat less when i don't use antiperspirant!

Apparently there is an added risk of breast cancer, using deoderant containing aluminium, in men and women. That isn't news btw.

According to who??

There is no convincing evidence that antiperspirants and deodorants cause breast cancer.
-- [url= http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/healthyliving/cancercontroversies/deodorants/ ]Cancer Research UK[/url]

In 2008 the results were published of an overview of 19 studies looking into whether parabens and aluminium salts could cause breast cancer. Parabens and aluminium salts are found in many cosmetics and underarm deodorants. The researchers found no evidence that parabens or aluminium salts cause breast cancer.
-- [url= http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=3943 ]CancerHelp.org.uk[/url]

That's all well and good Graham but that's just conventional science.

You're ignoring witchcraft, paranoia and wild speculation.

There you go, you've answered your own question, now you have that information, you can decide whether you are going to continue using it. Your call - you've proved nothing.

There's no smoke without fire, why have they gone to so much trouble researching it, and more imortantly WHO paid for the research!? PHD funded by private industry maybe, or did they just feel the need to research aluminium in deodarents - why they'll be researching whether toothpaste caused cancer next, if it were that random!

Didn't they say something similar about smoking for a few decades....

I find water is quite OK.

I find water is quite OK.

now you have that information, you can decide whether you are going to continue using it. Your call - you've proved nothing.

Right-o. Well "that information" (i.e. the findings of scientists involved in cancer research and the opinions of leading cancer charities) suggests there is no risk. So I'm happy.

There's no smoke without fire, why have they gone to so much trouble researching it,

One very small study of 17 women with breast cancer found elevated levels of aluminium in the part of the breast nearest the skin. The cause was unknown, though one of the authors [u]speculated[/u] that it [u]might[/u] be from antiperspirant.

This lead to news scare stories and a widely circulated spam email.

Subsequently there were at least 20 more studies conducted, with much larger sample sizes, looking specifically to see if the aluminium salts could cause cancer and comparing incidences of breast cancer in women who use antiperspirant to those that don't.

None of those studies found any correlation.

woodsman i can garuantee you that the CRUK research will have been cleared as independant and uncompromised by evil deodorant companies

as far as i can see aluminium salts similar to those seen in deodorants have been shown to increase the activity of estrogen in 1 type of breast cancer cell line (that is immortalised breast cancer tumour cells grown on plastic)
estrogen is a major factor in breast cancer
several very large (1000s of cases) studies have found no link whatsoever between people who used deodorants and cancer, nor have any mice been shown to be affected by aluminium salts
basically the doses you get from sprays are miniscule, especially when you consider other potential sources of oestrogen such as the pill or even soy based products

think about it i bet 99% of stwers use aluminium based deodorants and every year there are only 250 males diagniosed with breast cancer in the UK

pubmed is your friend..........

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

I'd be more concerned about spending money on something entirely pointless.

Sweating is a means of coling down. Sweat doesn't smell. Just wash regularly to prevent bacteria growth.

I've never used anti-perspirant and haven't used deodorant for years. I commute by bike five days a week, wearing my work clothes. No-one's complained of a smell.

Didn't they say something similar about smoking for a few decades....

Since 5000BC actually. But it was medical researchers that found the link between smoking and cancer.

DOLL R, BRADFORD HILL A. Smoking and Carcinoma of the Lung. [i]Br Med J. [/i] 1950 September 30; 2(4682): 739–748. [url= http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2038856 ][PubMed][/url]

I commute by bike five days a week, wearing my work clothes. No-one's complained of a smell.

Can they get close enough to talk to you?

No-one's complained of a smell.

I've worked beside several blokes like you who maintained that only old sweat smells and they didn't need to wash after cycling in. One bloke even went for a run at lunchtimes and then just changed straight back into his work gear.

[b]Every. Single. One. Of. Them. Stank.[/b]

No one complained (to their face).

No one complained (to their face).

Why's that ?

I'm a teacher. There would be nicknames. There aren't.

😉

My wife [i]would[/i] tell me.

Why's that ?

I believe it's called "Being British".

"What you've read in peer-reviewed scientific journals"

No, like I said "I just started researching (googling) this meself yesterday"

"Subsequently there were at least 20 more studies conducted"

And who funded those studies?

And who funded those studies?

Lizards in human skin.

"Lizards in human skin"

Actually David Icke says that they exist

And who funded those studies?

Proctor & Gamble, Right Guard, Sure, Nivea, Lynx...

Honestly, I don't know who funded them, but I do know that:
a) they have appeared in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
b) the major cancer charities keep a very close eye on all cancer research and fund a great deal themselves.
c) the findings have been accepted by peers and major cancer charities.

I used to live with someone involved in cancer research. At no point did any mysterious figures appear and try to steer her research away from particular areas.

GrahamS - Member

Why's that ?

I believe it's called "Being British".

foolishmiracles - Member

"Lizards in human skin"

Actually David Icke says that they exist

Well that's good enough for me.

I used to live with someone involved in cancer research. At no point did any mysterious figures appear and try to steer her research away from particular areas.

That's what [i]they[/i] want you to think.

"they have appeared in peer-reviewed scientific journals."

Which ones? - do yo have any links to them so I can have a read?

Can you say for definite that "Proctor & Gamble, Right Guard, Sure, Nivea, Lynx" havent funded any studies in these peer-reviewed scientific journals?