[Closed] Altitude - Europe, perhaps minus snow?

er, what?

I want to run at an altitude of 2000m in April. Seeking possible locations.

Mind if I ask why? 🙂

I would suggest somewhere near a coast though.

Because in June I'm running 100k at 1600-2000m 😯

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Do you think 2000m will affect you tho?

Do you think 2000m will affect you tho?

Probably not, but I'd like to find out.

Picos is northern Spain, maybe better heading south - Sierra Nevada? I know there's snow high up into May there, but given that the tops are around 3,400 metres or so, I'd have thought there'd be clear stuff lower down - stay in Granada, sleep low, train high and subsist on tapas? Worth some further digging anyway. Or lower down in the Alps maybe, 2,000 metres isn't that high. Or fly to South America and go running in Quito, Bogota or La Paz maybe...

And fwiw, for me, altitude becomes noticeable at around 2,500 metres, but that presumably means there's some corresponding impact slightly lower down.

Ohh, Granada. Good call. I've never been affected by altitude (3500) in the past, but I've never been this old before....

there is altitude training camp stuff for runners in morocco...

there's a school of thought that says you should 'train high - sleep low' - i've heard of moroccan training camps that offer this.

(i guess they drive you out to the mountains, then back down to sea level for bed-time)

here's a link to the first one i found: [url= http://www.runninginspired.co.uk/running_holidays.html ]clickez ici[/url]

end of may two years ago i went to southern spain. had a day's ride from bubion (siera nevada) with a top altitude of 2000m - the trail was clear but there was some snow lying in fields...

It's not as a training camp as any spurious gains would be lost by June. It's just to have a wee go at a mental run at 2000m and see how I feel.

The most [url= http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/altitude.html ]recent evidence[/url] suggest it is wiser to "sleep high, train low"

And for training purposes, most athletes think about 1600m is the right height to train; enough oxygen to train without keeling over.

What about New Mexico? the old UK atheletics training camp was in Albuquerque

Yeah if you're doing an altitude training camp, and heaven knows the value unless you'll be competing at altitude, you should be living high and training low, or you can get a de-training effect.

New Mexico would be lovely, Santa Fe would be my choice over Albuquerque - if someone else is paying. I'm just thinking of a weekend thing, travel, run for 8 or 9 hours in the hills, then come home.

Well I'm living at 1800m for 6 months and I've certainly noticed a difference - my HR is higher than usual, but been here a month and it's starting to lower a bit - no option to train low/sleep high or vice versa. If I do any exercise outside I find my HR rises rapidly for even only a relatively minor amount of effort but then recovers quickly,although that's probably partly due to dry, cold air and pollution (Kabul's got a serious smog problem). No snow yet either but probably not really a viable option for you to come here...

tenerife? hot like june further north and a big hill to run up and down.

I know when i have done cristalp, the valleys at 1600m are ok it is when i top out that i start to feel ropey.

Madrid has mountains that high, take the mountain train up from Cercedilla (1214m) to Puerto de Navecerrada (1858m) and start running up to the top of the ski runs. Or run up from the bottom, they do a vertical km race there every year...

By April most of the mountain trails should be clear.

hi guy
i was a world class athlete ,lived at 2000 m ,won several marathon ;now mountain bikers and runners as well triathlete ,nice coments from you ,but there some messunderstanding
will tell you more

To be honest I'm not sure if you'd notice anything. I can get to 1,800m around here and I don't notice any difference. A couple of years ago I was talking to some guys who work for a gas Co. and what they said led me to believe that 2,000m wouldn't be considered to be altitude training.
Madrid is at 600m and I live at almost 1,200m and don't notice any difference.
I know of an offroad route not far from here which probably averages 1,700-1,800m and 50km. I can check if you want.

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I'd struggle to run 1km at sea level

My concern has shifted from running at altitude to avoiding being eaten by large predators. Would pepper spray work on a lion or croc?

"The race will be along unsealed roads and paths in the bush terrain of the lower Rift Valley. There will be areas of long hills, flat bush lands, and rolling countryside. As there is wildlife in the area, the course will be patrolled by experienced, military-trained scouts to track the animals and their movements to ensure you are completely safe."