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Dunno, with our current fetishisation of the 1950's and it's subsequent values I wouldn't rule out an attempt to return the Suez Canal to its "rightful" custodian.
And so today the backtracking has begun.. Good article in the Independent pretty much admitting they've been lying on Syria via Home office encouragement to paint Pro gov forces as bad and rebels including the terrorist linked White Helmets as the good guys.
Then we have the UN Independent investigator on Syria openly naming the BBC, the Guardian & the NYT as the biggest peddler of lies on Syria.
This is an interesting watch.. [url=
Yeah, who knew al Nusra were a bunch of wrong'uns?
I'm as surprised as anyone that our previously saint-like media have been telling porkies.
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We (Western world) have stood by and watched a truly desperate human tradgey on our TVs screens for ages.
C4 news in particuar have covered this.
We should have done more.
It's not who started it, it's simply watching the death of innocent women and children each day.
It's not a blame thing, leave that to the politicians.
Denis99 - MemberWe (Western world) have stood by and watched a truly desperate human tradgey on our TVs screens for ages.
C4 news in particuar have covered this.
We should have done more.
So what should we have done that would have stopped the war? Diplomacy didn't work. Various cease fires didn't hold. If the participants are going to keep on killing each other then what can we do short of military force. And I think not getting involved militarily was correct. It isn't our war.
But we are involved. The west (in league with Saudi Arabia) has been supplying and supporting some pretty shady groups in this conflict. There seems to have been a policy of indirect regime change by proxy. This policy might have worked but for the involvement of Russia in support of Assad.
We could never have acted in any way which may have been construed as supporting Assad, as he is in league with the "enemy" (Iran, Hezbollah) and it would have put Saudi Arabia's nose well out of joint, hence the incredibly one-sided debate here in the west. Things are changing though.
The media have recently been given the nod to start questioning our relationship with Saudi Arabia (do you really think Boris is that stupid?) after the atrocities carried out in Yemen. What Syria has taught the west is that a major rethink is needed regarding our alliances in the area and they appear to slowly be pulling away from Saudi Arabia. Diplomatically, this will be a very slow, careful process which, I fear, will result in a great many more deaths. Part of that process might be helped by western governments and media portraying the true nature of the conflict in Syria. But of course, this would mean fessing up to some of the despicable things that have been done with western support.
If only the west could elect a leader unrestrained by such diplomatic doublethink, capable of wiping the slate clean...(I say this with a very, very keen sense of irony).
What upsets me the most is that we seem to have become incapable of seeing these conflicts on a human level, I know a lot of you don't like him, but Adam Curtis sums it up better than I could.
Which is where my call to help came from. Rather than sitting around blaming one side or the other, or moaning that your government isn't doing anything, do something. Or don't, I can't tell you what to do.
The only reason there is no "Egyptian Civil War" is because the West doesn't want one.Otherwise there would be one - you can be sure of that.
true it serves no purpose or benefit to the UK/USA etc...this is exactly the same case for the lack of action in Syria, Yemen, Myanmar etc...just as it has done in the past too such as Srebrenica.
heres the reason why:
The view from the other side
Not sure I like the view from the other side