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So out walking my perfectly well behaved and placid (he is a bit of a nutter but a lover not a fighter) 9 year old Cocker Spaniel tonight.

On his lead, minding our own business when a black lab charges out of a driveway and lays into him big time, I managed to separate him from the lab who then came at him again before the owner got hold of him whilst I was suggesting to her he might like a kick in the chops if he comes near me again.

No apology was forthcoming other than me getting told he has never done that before (yeah right) a little angry at this I then suggested she might like to keep the F'r on a lead and under control, her teenage son then appears and tells me not to speak to him Mum like that, an threatened to "sort me out" I told him where to go too........

What is wrong with some dog owners, I am not proud I swore but its a bit upsetting seeing a dog twice the size of yours try to tear strips off him for no reason and totally unprovoked

Anyway, rant over, did I overreact ?


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 7:48 pm
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Fairly normal reaction I suppose, nothing to feel bad about. Swearing will almost always result in swearing back from them though.


 
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Three dogs off the lead attacked my Schnauzer, my boot sorted it though, the guy walked away, i think he was scared i was gonna boot him.


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 7:53 pm
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Depends if the dog was actually being aggressive or just trying to see you off, protecting its territory. I know it's not right for a dog to do that but it's understandable.
Our dog a cocker too. Sometimes gets nervous and runs barking at the dog or person to see them off. But never touches anyone.


 
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Yeah quite prepared to get swore at, that doesn't bother me at all and just tends to escalate my swearing, I just walk away then.

It's not the first time its happened, invariably its a black lab, I don't like them, yes I know it's the owner but still........


 
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Depends if the dog was actually being aggressive or just trying to see you off, protecting its territory. I know it's not right for a dog to do that but it's understandable.
Our dog a cocker too. Sometimes gets nervous and runs barking at the dog or person to see them off. But never touches anyone.

Mine didn't even see it coming from behind the wall, I am sure it was protecting its territory, I will be protecting mine next time with a hoof in the ass for it


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 7:58 pm
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did I overreact

Sounds like you were restrained and diplomatic to me. Not sure as I'd have been so calm.


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 8:00 pm
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Not saying its the case here but most people really do over react when dogs have a bit of a set to. It happens and the dogs rarely cause any harm or damage as mostly its all noise and bluster. The fact that you managed to separate them suggests it was not much of an attack. Last time a dog attacked mine it nearly led to me coming to blows with someone but that was due to him kicking his own dog!


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 8:14 pm
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When your dog is being attacked by more than a few kilos of black lab, I think a few 'choice' anglo-saxon adjectives are OK.

I think you came out of that about as well as you could expect to.


 
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I think you were quite restrained, my dog was attacked by a Staffy type dog, I managed to get it by its collar and was about to slam it onto the ground when I had the better idea of trying to strangle it with its collar just before the owner arrived, somewhat appologetic she was so that diffused things a bit to be fair.

Also, saw two dogs attacking a neighbours dog while she screamed. grabbed the most aggressive one by its collar, and back flipped it. It landed with a thud. When I went to grab the second one, it ran off with a yelp. Sorted. No owner about to swear at but I bet at least one of their dogs was sore for some time.

I guess I use physical aggression with aggressive dogs then. I find it's more effective than swearing at their dippy owners

Fair play on the teenager supporting his mum though.


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 8:16 pm
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I've had this many times. I've a patterdale terrier who is as game as a mad frog! He's 12 now but still pretty fit.
It usually ends in the aggressive dog (bigger the better in my dogs eyes) running in the opposite direction with its tail between its legs! Sometimes, but very rarely it's turned nasty and there's been a proper set too, blood and snots flying!
Usually it's just a bit of chest pushing dog style.


 
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My Mrs cairne got attacked by 3 boxers off the lead and owner just stood and watched. Needed treatment at vets and is still nervous but mad dog anyway. Boxers owner is a scrote but understands where he went wrongnow.


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 8:51 pm
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Report the dog owner to police and rspca for haveing an out of control dog, it could be a child next time.

carrya can of air freshner or deoderant and spray at fighting dogs,usually splits them up


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 8:59 pm
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carrya can of air freshner or deoderant and spray at fighting dogs,usually splits them up

I sometime wonder how some on here ever leave the house.


 
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carrya can of air freshner or deoderant and spray at fighting dogs,usually splits them up

I sometime wonder how some on here ever leave the house

as recomended by a senior police officer a few years ago on tv if you think you may be attacked, and not classed as a weapon


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 9:06 pm
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It's not the first time its happened, invariably its a black lab, I don't like them, yes I know it's the owner but still.....

Yup, I had labs as a kid and you couldn't have wished for gentler dogs, but these days an increasing number are right nasty pieces.


 
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This is almost verbatim (lab off lead attacking our little dog picking him up by the head with its teeth, owner kicked his dog off, no apology) what happened first day of our holiday this year, had to cancel there and then and return the next morning to our vet. Despite first aid an infection developed overnight in his inner ear, eardrum was discovered to be detached. Pretty upsetting and gets the blood up . Other owner wouldn't accept full responsibility but did agree to cover half the excess on our insurance, after I hunted him down and asked. This is the second lab attack and another from a retriever.

'He's never done it before'. Same story. Hope yr dog is ok and gets over it fully OP.


 
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as recomended by a senior police officer a few years ago on tv if you think you may be attacked, and not classed as a weapon

I hope you always leave the house in clean pants too.


 
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dogs rarely cause any harm or damage as mostly its all noise and bluster.

True that. The vet said as much, and added the fact that the lab attack ours without any warning, silently, meant it was going for the kill rather than a spat. If the owner hadn't kicked his dog hard there and then there's little doubt we would have been looking at a box of ashes by now.


 
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Our Cocker has small man syndrome...

Anything bigger on a lead is fair game to him.


 
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'Oooooooowoooo!' ^^^^. Brilliant.


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 10:44 pm
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Funny looking Staffie!
Bit of lab in there Shirley?


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 10:45 pm
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It's usually all noise and it's what dogs do. They're not little people.

A good kick in the face seems to snap them out of it. Followed by a cheery hello to the owner.


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 10:47 pm
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A dog came flying across the park towards ours and I booted it hard under the jaw. The owner was upset and he explained although his is a large white Bull Terrier type breed he is infact really friendly. I said 'what do you expect me to do if a strangers dog/such a scenario? He agreed yet I still felt very bad. Previously locally I had to pick my dog over my head to save it from a staff and a rotweiller. The owner (woman pushing a toddler) apologised and said they were hard to control. Some people...


 
Posted : 12/11/2014 10:48 pm
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I'm fed up with dog owners not understanding dog behaviour, they aren't clever animals, their senses are much higher than ours & they will sense danger a fair way off.
Oh, & if you have a little dog then the best form of defence will be attack unless you own a non dog! ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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Hora, you must realise as a dog owner that the absolute worse thing you could do would be to pick the dog up? that just means the other dog has won & will continue to portray it's superiority until you kick it?


 
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Previously locally I had to pick my dog over my head to save it from a staff and a rotweiller.

Had to do that a couple months ago when a staffy that was off the lead decided to attack our Jack Russell totally unprovoked. It took about 10 good kicks into the dogs stomach to get it off but left our dog with a big gash on his face and a nice vets bill.

The owner when he appeared was more worried about threatening me for kicking his dog, some owners need putting down not the dogs!


 
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My wife was walking our dog, passed a woman with two Labs coming the opposite way on leads. One of the Labs then attacked without warning, no snarling or growling and the owner couldn't hold it. Our dog was bit in the shoulder & chest and a bit sore for a few days. No opportunity for kicking etc all over and done in secs.
I tend to use the size 12 if there's any aggression shown, I think your reaction was understandable.


 
Posted : 13/11/2014 9:28 am
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We have one of those dangerous dog breeds known as a King Charles.
A neighbour got a rescue dog and it attacked our dog for no reason.I could hear the shouting and screaming and the owner was beating her dog with an umberella to try and get it off.
A few weeks later i was walking past her house when the dog attacked again.
This time it came off second best with a steel toe capped boot to its chest.
The woman rang her boyfriend and he turned up threatening to find me and kill me( i was out on the bike).My wife phoned me and said to stay out on the bike a bit as the boyfriend was going bananas.
A few weeks later a car pulled up beside me and the boyfriend jumped out.
Turns out his girlfriend told him that i kicked their dog for no reason and he left a bit embarrassed.
They won't accept that their dog has a problem as it will attack any dog and the horses in the nearby fields.


 
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as recomended by a senior police officer a few years ago on tv if you think you may be attacked, and not classed as a weapon

Even if you also have a lighter in your pocket?


 
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There's a big difference between full on aggression and in dogs sorting themselves out with a bit of 'handbags', which is what happens in 95% of the cases in which case it is only a bit of noise and everything is fine. Most dog owners recognise this but some are a bit precious in my experience.

A socialised and stable dog shouldn't be just attacking with no warning or use of doggy body language. However, there are bad dogs as well as bad humans...

This sounds like an example of that and in that case I don't think you over reacted at all.


 
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I was walking my Stafy when we got blindsided by a Weimaraner, Badger my Staffy was on the lead and had this thing going at the back of his neck. I kicked the thing so hard I must of launched it a couple of yards, the owner came steaming up to me with his fist raised, I just told him that would be a mistake he would really regret. He backed off and grabbed his dog. I was shaking like a leaf ๐Ÿ˜† Badger wasnt hurt. Saw the bloke about a week later and he waved like we were life long friends ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
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There's a field we've been to locally with some friends that own dogs, it's all fenced in and made for letting your dogs off the lead to socialise them. To be honest it sounds like the world needs more of this kind of thing.

The Dogs all go nuts and leg it around the place playfully getting to know one another.

From time to time an owners legs are taken out by the dogs as they charge round which is always amusing.


 
Posted : 13/11/2014 10:33 am
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If the Deodorant spray works, it would be good for the missus to put in her Dog Walking bag. I'm pretty sure I could boot off a dog, but I'm not sure she could.


 
Posted : 13/11/2014 11:01 am
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Hora, you must realise as a dog owner that the absolute worse thing you could do would be to pick the dog up? that just means the other dog has won & will continue to portray it's superiority until you kick it?

My dog was going to be torn apart. So I didn't hesitate to pick him up. The woman/owner with the small child disapeared off with the dogs then came back to the park without them to apologise (she lived round the corner). She said 'I'm really sorry, they are actually my partners and the Staff is led astray by the Rotweiller'. I replied/etc and she said 'I know I know I have told him'.

I can't imagine what would have happened if I'd have kicked one of two dogs acting in a mini-pack? Shudder to think really.

Previously a badly bitten/treated looking Staff wandered after me and my dog. I picked mine up and put him behind a fence and tried getting close to it. It completely ignored me and focused on my dog- trying to get to him. When I changed tact and tried friendliness- it legged it. Doesn't need saying what that dogs life involved to that point.


 
Posted : 13/11/2014 11:55 am