[Closed] Abused by driver of works van - should I report him to his employer?

Do it. Its always worth while

Do it. Its always worth while

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Dry bumming?

Do it.

Do it. Its always worth while

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I would and have done before.

no...............cos if you do you are a big soft shandy drinker.....
we all do stupid things now and again.........live and let live.

unless you catch him and give him some fist pie.......... 😉

stick talc up his arse and shaft him with a broom.

Do it.

(but then I can say that - I don't have to worry about him catching up with me on the same bit of road tomorrow).

Actually, as you were in a car I'd say do it.

Of course you should do it, what if the next person he does it to is less capable/confident than yourself; an OAP, learner driver, lone woman driver etc

Depends how blameless you really were.

One for your conscience.

Of course you should do it.

Find out who he is through some crafty sleuth work...stalk him till you find his address, and then add him to a gay porn mailing list.

Alternatively, forget about it. It doesn't matter.

I've done it before as well, got cut up and then run off the road by some one-man-band removals guy a few years ago, as he drove off I clocked his name and phone number on the back of the truck along with the registration plate.

Took the police all of 10 seconds to track him down and pay him a little visit, they actually took the issue very seriously.

Definitely report it - next time you might not have the protection of a steel box, you might be on the bike...

What if he's this kind of 209 though?

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I wouldn't want any of this!

i would report him

Worth pursuing if only to see how they respond - although what happens thereafter may of course come to nothing.

On a similar note, I had a double-glazing salesman come round (at my request, not via cold call) about 10+ years ago. Sound bloke and a sound pitch, but I wasn't prepared to buy there and then. At which point he became a complete ar5e saying stuff like "You know you've just cost me £800 commission?" So I called his employer after he'd left and complained - they admitted that other people had also called to complain and that he would be disciplined accordingly. Could have been complete b0ll0cks of course, but the lady did sound sincere.

yes report the least they will do is log the calls for each driver and build up a picture of who gets the most complaints
Then post up the number and the route and we can all ring in to complain about what we saw them do /what they did to us 😉

fin du cloche

Best thing i've googled all day. 😀

I thought all white van drivers cut people up, tailgate, flash their lights & give the w@nker sign as standard?

Did he do anything out of the normal?

They may well set up a new critera for redundancy.

If the van was purple and had ROK on the side i wouldnt bother as theyre all loosing their jobs, soon,due to no fault of the workers.

Always report it but dont give out a landline number or home address use an email, and always ask who you are speaking to as well as their grade.

Follow up with an email to the head office.

I've been on the receiving end of those calls as the 0845 number on our vans goes to my mobile.

We always pursue it with the driver, though it's usually no more than a, "remember you are driving about with our company name and number on your van, so please behave", as it's your word against theirs.

Usually makes the caller feel better to know it is being taken seriously though.

Few employers would want their name being associated with *rsehole drivers, and they seem to take this stuff seriously.

Definitely definitely report him.

report it to them, then report back to us what they say 😉

we all do stupid things now and again

Accidently cutting someone up is one thing, being an a$$hole is another thing entirely.

He cut across me on a roundabout and then was tailgating me, flashing his lights and giving me the w@nker gesticulation as he tried to undertake me

I'd report it. There are far too many nobs on the road.

Report it, nothing to lose...some companies take this very seriously...

Not the same .....but a few years ago I was riding with someone and some stupid to$$er thought it would be funny to through a bottle out of the van window...

The bottle hit the rider in front of me, he stuck his out out of the window, laughing, hand gestures...

Some people are just so stupid....the company/telephone number was all over the van....my mate called the company, made an offical complaint etc...the guy was sacked a week later...

What goes around....comes around IMO...

I was thinking along the same lines as Brycey, if he's in a co van, then he's representing the company and they ain't going to want their co associated with someone acting stupid and being abusive.

I'd say, yeah, report it. He may not get punished for it, but he'll certainly think about how he acts in future. Probably won't change his behaviour when he's in his own car though, the tosser.

I did this with a driver of a local networking company. Happened to follow him home a few days on the same route. Drove like a nutcase, using his mobile, overtook on chevrons etc etc and then proceeded to bomb it down my road at about forty. He now drives down quite calmly and is in a shitty small little van instead of the sporty number they'd given him before 🙂

I hate dobbing, but in this sort of case it is worthwhile. If he doesn't get some consequences, he's going to keep doing it, and someone sometime will get hurt in the inevitability he'll call an "accident".

Yes do it.

Was following a mini bus last week - empty apart from driver who opened his window and chucked out a load of McD wrappers, drink cartons etc - loads of rubbish all over the place.

Nothing makes my blood boil more so I phoned the number on the back of the mini bus, spoke to the boss and asked him what kind of advert that is for his business? Next time I'm looking for a mini bus hire you can be sure they're not on the list. Boss was right apologetic - hope the driver got a bollocking.

call it. I have been on the recieving end of these calls in my youth. Admittedly one was from a woman in my village who didnt like the fact that my van was there but these calls are usually taken seriously.

Plus if you are stupid enough to behave like that while in a van with phone numbers all over it, you deserve to be punished for behaviour like that!

Just think how you would feel if he ran over a kid or grannie, while gesticualting at you, next time you may not be so lucky.He obviously has anger management problems aiming a 3.5 ton van at a squishy cyclist.

REPORT HIM AND ALSO REPORT HIM TO THE POLICE.Put the company details on here.or email this thread to the company.

Do it. I had similar incident near Nottingham on M1.. guy was driving a plumbing distributors van VERY aggressively, phone the company as advertised on side, they said "O..its him again. yes, we know him, very sorry that he's done it to you as well".....

Its only by dobbing these people in that we will all positively effect social change.. has to be done in England.

Do it,

I have phone several companies to ask to speak to their transport manager to ask what their policy on the use of hand held mobile phones whilst driving and exhibiting poor driving. Usually get chapter and verse on how they have clear policy etc, etc.

Most satisfying result was pulling along side a chump who was driving like a complete muppet when he realised I had bubbled him to his boss.

Also worth pointing out that mobile phone companies are required by law to keep all mobile phone conversation for 2 years, anti terrorism and criminal activity

Also worth pointing out that mobile phone companies are required by law to keep all mobile phone conversation for 2 years, anti terrorism and criminal activity

Just be sure that it is more than a two or three man company though. Otherwise, assuming you're going to write to the company to complain and you include your address for a reply, you could be right in the shit as the nutter will have your address.
My mate owns a double glazing/conservatory company. 4 employees and three vans. The vans are numbered 12, 46 and 62 (or something like that). He says it gives the impression that the company is substantially bigger than it is. He reckon's it gives potential customers more confidence in the company.

Also worth pointing out that mobile phone companies are required by law to keep all mobile phone conversation for 2 years, anti terrorism and criminal activity

They only have to keep details of the call e.g. date, time, duration, number dialled. But not the actual conversation.

I'm not comfortable with all this denouncing people to the authorities stuff

Sort it out yourself or let it pass IMO

Uplink, Your name is alzo goink on ze list...

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fin du cloche

end of a bell, right? 😀

I'm not comfortable with all this denouncing people to the authorities stuff

If you were CEO of a big company, how would you feel if your employees were going around being screaming at and abusing the general public with your company's name emblazoned on their van and likely their shirt too?

TandemJeremy - Member
Do it. Its always worth while

Another +1, done it before, will do it again. Any knob who thinks they can drive like a knob in a liveried van needs a wake up call.

I had something similar from a bus a while ago.

I emailed the company very politely explaining what happened and got a fairly generic response of :

I am writing in response to your complaint date the 29th October 2010 regarding an incident with one of our buses operating along Palatine Road.

I was extremely shocked to read the details of your e-mail. The safety of our passengers and other road users is Stagecoach’s top priority. To this end all of our drivers receive extensive training and we also undertake regular driving assessments. The driver in question will be seen in line with internal company procedures in order to prevent a reoccurrence.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for bringing the matter to my attention and apologise on behalf of Stagecoach Manchester for any inconvenience and distress that this incident caused you.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. If you do not feel that your concerns have been satisfactorily addressed within this response, we would like you to write to us at the following address and let us know why:

I don't actually feel any better for having done it, and the driver and "customer service" will probably have had a good laugh at a w**nker of a militant cyclist. The regularity of these things happening makes me wonder if I'm just a crap cyclist, or whether the bus drivers have a game of "how many cyclists can I cause to take evasive action/intimidate"

If you were CEO of a big company, how would you feel if your employees were going around being screaming at and abusing the general public with your company's name emblazoned on their van and likely their shirt too?

What's that got to do with anything?

I'm not & if I was I wouldn't expect random Joe Publics to watch out for my company
It's far too open for the denouncer to 'sex it up' a bit just for effect or badness

Likewise, if any kid told me that my kid had whacked him, I'd tell him to go & find him whack him back, twice

I was sitting having a coffee after a roadie a couple of years back with a riding group when a works van pulled up parked, sunny day on Welly waterfront. Guy proceeds to dump all the rubbish out the window (mcd's wrappers, coffee cups etc etc) and they go to drive away. Sadly for him a guy in our riding group OWNED THE COMPANY! He got marched that day. Unbelievable, total karma moment that one.

I got reprimanded for fishtailing our company car away from the lights when i was young(er) and more stupid(er).

What's that got to do with anything?

Then you've got a person doing something that's bad for us, and is bad for his company, so you're doing everyone a favour with a quick phone call. I wouldn't fire someone based on a phone report like that, but I'd investigate.

Greater good.

Likewise, if any kid told me that my kid had whacked him, I'd tell him to go & find him whack him back, twice

So violence should be met with more violence? Great lesson! Coupled with thinking people should be allowed to get away with whatever they want if no-one important is watching.

Sort it out yourself or let it pass IMO

Likewise, if any kid told me that my kid had whacked him, I'd tell him to go & find him whack him back, twice

Really? How about if your son came home with a split lip and a bloody nose and told you he'd been beaten up, would you chastise him for reporting it to you and tell him to go and sort it out himself or forget about it?

I made a complaint about the way a police vehicle was being driven and was thanked for making the complaint by the inspector who was allocated to deal with the complaint and the sergeant who took the details.

I've spoken to the inspector a couple of time since and he's given me updates and also let me decide how I wanted the officer dealt with, formal or informal.

Good procedure IMHO.

" I wouldn't fire someone based on a phone report like that..."

You'd be doing well to.

EDIT: mis-read reply.

Should I call his HR dept.

I'm a serial complainer. My adage is: if you don't complain nothing ever gets fixed. Whether it's talking on mobile phones, tailgating or bus/taxi drivers cutting me up then braking if I think it warrants it I'll email or phone the company. Some responses are more vigilant than others but most companies take it seriously. One local business wrote back to say that they guy had been warned about it before and was sacked on the spot. Perhaps he was, perhaps he wasn't but I did my bit for road safety.

Complained about a police driver once, he was driving a marked car like a stupid young pr*ck along a busy and accident-prone stretch of the A5 in Shropshire. West Mercia took it seriously - an investigation, home visit from the appropriate officer to make a statement, fill in forms etc.

If you feel the driving was really bad then yes you should report it.

I've actually just written an email to a haulage company complaining about one of their lorry drivers who was driving like a complete tool earlier this morning and nearly drove over the bonnet of my car as a result. Way I see it is if you're driving a vehicle with the company name in foot high letters down the side you're fair game if you drive like a moron and endanger others.

What about going to his work, and asking him why he was calling you a ****er, and if he'd act like that when walking down the street if someone got in his way?

I drive a white van for a living as a servic e engineer so my answer has to be

YES

report him because he does his employer no justice what so ever so there is potential work lost for them.

just my opinion

I would always report him if you are sure your concience is clean.

I was splitting traffic on my gsxr when a white van coming towards me moved over on to the dotted white line and essentially forced me back inbetween cars, I only just made it, and as he was coming towards me he was giving it the full wrist action sign.

I turned around and caught up behind him, but I was boiling and at a loss as to what to do, despite the company name and reg no no being etched on my mind.

So I backed off and went on my way.

I told my then MD when I got to work and she hatched a revenge plan. She got our purchasing manager to call the company (an office furniture outfit) and enquire about a big order for our office, agreed a price and said we would fax a purchase order through. Purchasing manager then called back later and reported that our MD had refused to sign the order based on what she had witnessed that morning. It then turned out they had had [b]four calls already [/b]that day reporting the incident and that matey was already on his final warning from previous issues. The next morning the MD of the furniture company called my MD and told her that he had sacked Mr Driver, apparantley some of the others who had called in had called the police as well. My MD replied that in the interim she had ordered from someone else, sorry..

How did the van driver know derekstarship plays with himself?

Yes, If that's the truth. I'm surprised you have to ask people on the internet TBH!

Really? How about if your son came home with a split lip and a bloody nose and told you he'd been beaten up, would you chastise him for reporting it to you

No

and tell him to go and sort it out himself or forget about it?

As long as it was his age group - yes

Personally, I'd try and teach my son about non-violent conflict resolution rather than letting him either get stuck in himself or being forever intimidated by someone who is just harder than he is.

I'd try and teach my son about non-violent conflict resolution

Running is one option yes 🙂

Non violent conflict resolution is something I had to learn a lot about as a kid.

Well.....after much cogitation and deconstruction, I decided against reporting the driver of van 209.

In hindsight, after he (badly) cut me up on the roundabout, I did play with him a bit which may have precipitated his outrageous behaviour. He is obviously a chronic bellend and I imagine a bollocking from his boss would result in van 209 telling him to eff off and instant dismissal would ensue. I don't want me or my wife to be affected by the fallout of such an outcome so I'm not going to light the touch paper this time. People can be be traced much more easily these days and I wouldn't want this guy showing up at my work or worse, home.

Case closed 😉

As per usual -
-STWer has a decision to be made
-Asks about decision on STW
-STWers debate, argue disagree and generally whinge about decision
-STWer ignores arguments, advice and disagreements and makes his own decision anyway

🙂

So what's new Dez? 😉

I got road raged by the driver of a Staples lorry a while back - I had overtaken him with plenty of room and for some reason he got in a strop about it, tailgated me (once I approached slow traffic) then jumped out at the red lights and had a go at me. I may have slightly annoyed him by sitting there grinning at him...

He then drove like a complete nutter into a busy city in an artic lorry! Got his reg plate and rang Staples pronto.

If someone is stupid enough to endanger life while covered in a companies logos, they deserve to be fired.

I took a call at work once by an irate driver complaining about being cut up by one of our works vans. He demanded to speak to the managing director. He was not in so the bloke demanded his mobile number which I duly gave to him. He rang the number and spoke to the managing director in person.
Apparently he was spouting all sorts of crap to the MD about being verbally assaulted by the driver and that they had tried to run him off the road etc etc.
I would have paid money to have seen the blokes face when the driver of the van (our MD) waved to him and told him who he was.
(not condoning his crap driving though)