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80 hour estimate to copy 300 Gb of data from one USB HDD to another. Sounds rather a lot. Is that normal?


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:29 pm
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Errr... You've probably got them plugged in via a USB1 connection, not USB2. USB1 runs at a fraction the speed of USB2, 300GB via USB2 should only be a few hours tops.


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:31 pm
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only an estimate based on current data transfer rate. mileage may vary...as may date transfer rates! are they both usb 2.0? oops too slow on the keys for me!


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:32 pm
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how do you tell if a slot is usb1 or usb2? isn't it the same plug?

EDIT Ah! looks like the donor drive has a transfer rate of 12mb/s where as the destination one is on 480 mb/s.


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:34 pm
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yes, but one (or all) will be allocated as usb 2.0 by the usb hub. you could try them all to see if the tx rate improves?
[url= http://www.usbman.com/Guides/checking_for_usb_2.htm ]clicky[/url]


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:38 pm
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will do...thanks


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:39 pm
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I've tried the slow device in the 'usb2' port and it's still runs at only 12mb/s. It's an old external HDD (4 years or so) - can the device be usb1 and not transfer at the fast rate irrespective of where you plug it in?

thanks for the link tumnurkoz, but I'm using Linux.


 
Posted : 05/10/2010 9:55 pm
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That's exactly it - the limiting factor is your slower usb1 (actually usb1.1) drive/interface. Yes, the larger slot-style plugs are the same for both (there's a mini connector for things like phones/cameras etc)

You'll always get something distinctly less than the raw usb speed.
Eg the 480 Mbps figure (60 Mbytes/s) is the base signalling rate, *not* the effective data rate, and doesn't include a whole lot of overhead in the usb protocol (ie how the signalling works). The maximum rate you'd get in practice would be about 52 Mbytes/sec, in reality with a recent PC it might achieve 32-45. If the disk drives keep up of course 🙂

Should you care 😉 - a usb2.0 host (generally a pc) has to support High speed (480MBps), Full Speed (12MBps), and Low Speed (a whacking 1.5Mbps) 'cos any of that lot may be connected to it - your usb1.1 device will run at 12Mbps peak. A keyboard or mouse would probably be Low speed.

I suspect you've got a usb2.0 hub, but if you were using an old one that was usb1.1 a similar thing would apply - except now a usb2 drive connected to the pc via that hub would just work at 12Mbps, since the hub would be the limiting factor.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:47 am