[Closed] 40mph plan for country roads

Fairy snuff woody. Misunderstood.

I'm not sure any of this actually matters.

On country roads good drivers pay attenion to the road and conditions and drive appropriately. Bad drivers don't.

This will remain the same regardless of what the posted limit is

To some extent anyone who claims they are safe driving at 100mph, sounds a bit like i am a better driver after a couple of pints.

I combine the 2 for a win/win. Throw in some Class A's and I'm Ayrton ****ing Senna!!! 😀

rich - aye but the bad drivers might go slower with lower limits. Maybe. Good ones might as well

rich - aye but the bad drivers might go slower with lower limits Maybe. Good ones might as well

Paying attention to the conditions doesn't mean sticking to a number on a sign though does it.

Sometimes going faster is okay - rannoch moor being a good example. Sometimes 30mph is too fast - Almost all the the single track roads in Scotland have a 60mph limit. Apart from a very few well sighted straight sections it would be idiotic to try and drive at the posted limit.

That's the point a good driver takes heed of the number on the sign but drives to the conditions. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have speed limits but there is more to being safe than a number on a sign

Tom can see EVERYTHING whether it's there or not. Even at Mach 2.
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I aim to go just over the speed limit on the dials (probably just under the actual limit in real money) and I still seem to be pissing off 95% of all kinds of drivers in these zones.

Martin - so you always speed, my my

B R, read the whole paragraph.Not just the first ten words. If the needle is just over the limit in a 30 zone I will be confident I am going under 30. To the point where I could stay with the needle hovering above whatever speed limit.. even if there's a speed camera van or hand held gun ahead. Did this in Nairn a few weeks ago.. no fines yet.

On a 70mph zone I'll also be happy to cruise along at 73/74mph on the clocks.. and know that I am still under the actual limit. Although the Tomtom says I'll be going around 68mph. Do you understand what I talked about now?

As far as writing 'my my'. If its to wind me up for speeding,it won't. As unlike many people, I am not going to lie about speeding when I do it every day of my life.

edit: I have driven past camera vans at least 5mph over the limit (on the clocks) in 60/70 sones and have made no effort in reducing my speed. I passed one at the mound (heading to Golspie) last month and stayed at 65 on the clocks. This probably comes out at 59-ish mph.. given that they would be looking to fine drivers going around 10% over the limit.. still quite a bit away from 66mph.

As unlike many people, I am not going to lie about speeding when I do it every day of my life.

Well said.

BTW martin - a few years ago one of the bike magazines tested a load of bikes speedos - you are allowed 10% accuracy - most of the jap bikes were 8% optimistic.

Clocks are a funny one,Jeremy. Both cars read about 33-34mph when the Tomtom said 30mph. The same as just about every speed sign I can think of. They might be out quite a bit but they all seem to be the same. Maybe I'm wrong. The motorbike is an import with the light beam back to front with an mph speedo. This speedo always matches up with the speed signs in villages but god knows what it really is! Never had a satnav on a bike.

As unlike many people, I am not going to lie about speeding when I do it every day of my life.

There is a third type which I encounter frequently on my daily travels and they appear to be very conscientious and law abiding, for the simple reason that they daren't risk being stopped as it would uncover their lack of driving license, insurance or MOT 8)

Woody - Actually I have encountered a rare other type - a chap who despite being able to handle a vehicle well simply stays within the speed limits - but not driving inattentively nervously or self righteously

I play pool much better after a couple of pints.

I don't get the do gooders who insist that doing over 60mph on a country road is dangerous yet sitting there at 55 mph is completely safe, deluded or what!

I've said on here before, go on the M1 at 6:30 am and the average speed is probably about 85 mph, everyone is alert, not stupid braking or pulling out in front of people. Come 7:30 and no more traffic, but the avg speed drops to about 60mph and the standard of driving is appauling.

I don't get the do gooders who insist that doing over 60mph on a country road is dangerous yet sitting there at 55 mph is completely safe, deluded or what!

Who's saying that?

I don't get the do gooders who insist that doing over 60mph on a country road is dangerous yet sitting there at 55 mph is completely safe, deluded or what!

driving slower is safer, but using your head is safer still.

You have a licence to drive, one of the terms of that licence is to not break speed limits, you may object but tough. Get over it.

I'm guilty of pootling along at 50mph in the car, not for safety but because it uses heaps less fuel then 60/70. Noticeably heaps less. Although weirdly I sit at 60/65 on the motorbike and get passed more often, I think it is because people can see past me better. (it's a 125 btw, top speed is 74 so the manual says, which I doubt, so 65 is ragging it) I would say at least 50% of the time I catch the passeurs at the double set of traffic lights coming into the city. I fight the temptation to filter past them, there is no need to wind people up. Well, most of the time I fight it.

Funkydunc

Your comment on times of day is so very true. The difference in driving standards at weekends is particularly noticeable.

Probably a combination of 'weekend only' drivers and the fact that people are generally not in a hurry to get anywhere = large reduction in concentration 👿

I find weekend drivers noticeably less aggressive than rush hour commuters.

While I am perfectly happy to ride at my own rate on roads (outside of 20/30/40) and have driven on public roads at over 150mph in a car and 170mph on a m/c

Can I touch your arm or at least just be seen in your company for 5 minutes?

What I don't understand is....
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....where is everyone going in such a hurry?

Anyone else remember TJ's "speeds that would make your eyes bleed" boast?

A6 shap used to be one of my faves for speeding - wide,not much traffic fast as you like.

I have gone speeding at speeds that would make your eyes bleed.

After that, any opinion he may hold on "speeding" or anything to do with road safety is null and void in my opinion.

If your eyes are bleeding, you cannot see the danger ahead of you.

[i]I find weekend drivers noticeably less aggressive than rush hour commuters. [/i]

Hmm, and I find at non-commuting time you've got to be more careful (esp. on a motorcycle), as they're less likely to be paying attention...

So you never speed then CFH? You righteous prig.

I have, TJ. I have never spouted self righteous guff about others not doing so.

Neither have I if you actually bother to read what post - but of course if didn't misrepresent me then you would have no grounds to attack.

I have never on here condemned others for speeding - only for bleating about it when caught. A difference too subtle to be recognised by you

so now as you speed you are a missive hypocrite for criticising me.

Really - hoist by your own petard you self righteous boor

Lol.. CFH is self righteous now? Talk about glass houses!

You righteous prig.

Really - hoist by your own petard you self righteous boor

TJ, you were better/funnier when you were banned.

CaptainFlashheart - Member

TJ, you were better/funnier when you were banned.

TJ was banned? 😯

Naughty man .... 😆

Lets be perfectly clear as several of those who like to try to bully me are here at once.

I have never criticised people for speeding.

I criticise them for complaining when caught.

AS the usual nasty bullies are want to do - you invent things you claim I have said in order to attack me. find one mention that I have made of critising someone for speeding.

Put up or shut up.

EDIT: ggnnnn biting my tongue.....!

TrollJeremy - Member
On this thread I have been taking the piss

So when you're being serious, be sure to let us know.........

Molgrips - again - put up or shut up. I do not claim people have said things they have not. I do not invent positions for people that are completely at odds with their real position.

Lets be perfectly clear as several of those who like to try to bully me are here at once.

yes Don - nasty bullying people like you with your constant unpleasant sniping at people.

[killfile]TJ you're a priggish self righteous boor who should MTFU and stop crying!!![/killfile]
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don simon - Member
.....it's all a bit pathetic, isn't it?

More Bathos than Pathos I'd say.......

Bathos is an abrupt transition in style from the exalted to the commonplace, producing a ludicrous effect.
It should not be confused with Pathos, a mode of persuasion within the discipline of rhetoric, intended to arouse emotions of sympathy and pity.

I do not invent positions for people that are completely at odds with their real position.

Yes you bloody well do! You do it to me all the time!

Molgrips - give me one example direct quote please. You will not be able to. Put up or shut up

as the banhammer will be heading my way for this I am sure I will leave the thread

Please note tho chaps who started with the personal attacks and who made up lies about me.