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I’m expecting a small Tory majority, but hoping they fall short, and my seat changes hands. Yes, I’m crossing everything for a “coalition of chaos”, much like most of Europe is used to.

When did Germany last have a single party majority government? Why do we feel we have to one? Perhaps the way to prosperity and more stable workers’ rights isn’t to hand over the keys of the country to one party every few years and say, “it’s your turn to tear up what you want”.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 8:44 pm
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I can’t believe that Boris couldn’t even be arsed to vote in his own constituency.

If there is any justice in this world, let him lose his seat by one vote...


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 8:46 pm
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When did Germany last have a single party majority government?

I get quite surprised and/or confused looks when I explain to people how UK Parliament works.....


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 8:55 pm
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The old man was my proxy.... He stuck two crosses down for Labour... 👍


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 8:59 pm
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Kelvin - I’ve long advocated a euro PR style government. Stuff gets agreed by consensus, as opposed the the bickering and name calling we have here. The adversarial 2 party, constituency system is not fit for purpose.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:05 pm
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Suppose I'd better go and vote hey?


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:16 pm
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Would you mind? 🙂


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:29 pm
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Murmurings online that Boris Johnston might lose his seat as LibDem voters have switched to Labour. Just think, by this time tomorrow we could be a couple of hundred posts into a thread on the Tory Party leadership contest.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:31 pm
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Just out with a mate who’s an NHS nurse on a cancer ward. She’s voted labour. All the other nurses on the ward have voted Tory

We’re *ed!

Truly truly *ed!

It seems in my office of mainly nurses that most there will vote Tory. The general opinion seems that Boris is the best of a bad bunch; Corbyn seems on par with Farage for gasps of "you can`t vote him".

The ballot paper was a truly depressing choice of options.

I predict a fairly sizeable Tory majority.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:32 pm
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The impression I've got from people I've met, those that go on about it anyway. Is they are looking forward to ramming home the message to apoplectic remainers who insisted they are all Nazi racist thick ****s and those they perceive as left wing thought police telling them what to do. A doubling down voting Tory!

All to a man repeating Corbyn is useless, a communist, gonna let all and sundry in and is gonna cost them a fortune in taxes for fanciful giveaways to entitled snowflakes.

Looks pretty grim TBH. Mainly working class with very working class jobs if that makes any difference.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:36 pm
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I fear we are going to end up with a Tory majority and a massive upsurge in backwards-looking intolerance, xenophobia and racism dressed up as ‘patriotism’.

We are ****ed.

On a more STW-specific note I am also expecting an upsurge in angry gammon rage in the countryside as I commit the heinous crime of riding a bicycle. These people will never be satisfied.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:37 pm
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Hmmm.
In our place, most will vote Labour.

The nice lady at the SPAR has just told me she always votes Labour, but not this time because Corbyn is a terrorist.

I guess if you repeat something often enough it becomes truth.
What do you reckon Binners? 🙂


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:38 pm
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My Tory MP had a majority of 23,326 in 2017, all I can hope for is that it’ll be a bit leaner this time around.

That all? Ours has a 41% majority over the nearest candidate. Not all votes are created equal, are they? Absent Adam will be returned effectively unopposed. At least he didn’t need to fly to Afghanistan when called to vote against his party.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:39 pm
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Just think, by this time tomorrow we could be a couple of hundred posts into a thread on the Tory Party leadership contest.

Oh good.

insisted they are all Nazi racist thick ****

All to a man repeating Corbyn is... gonna let all and sundry in

Seems the remainers weren't wrong, then.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:40 pm
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My brother posted on Facebook in a way that suggested that he hasn't voted. If he hasn't, I vow to kick him in the nuts when I see him tomorrow night.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:40 pm
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Just think, by this time tomorrow we could be a couple of hundred posts into a thread on the Tory Party leadership contest

Johnson
It'll be corbyn replacement countdown, while Johnson continues to fk the entire country up even more certain that he was destined to be Churchills heir than ever


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:51 pm
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This election reminds of the South Park episode about voting “douche and turd”.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 9:51 pm
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Just how despicable and slimy are the Tories?

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Posted : 12/12/2019 9:53 pm
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41%? My MP's majority is 43.4%...


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:02 pm
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Looks like turnout might be big, who knows what that could mean though


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:04 pm
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I've been hoping the weather might have stopped a load of old folk going out to vote.....

Hopefully the big turn out is mainly younguns!!


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:11 pm
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Voted about an hour ago tactically to try and get rid of the Tories. They hold a majority of ~1800 in my constituency (Milton Keynes North) over Labour.

Labour have been making a big push in my area, most leaflets through the door and the only party to actually knock on my door (once just over a week ago and again tonight to check whether I had voted).

I asked what the turnout was like when I went to vote, 'huge' was the answer.

My parents are in a normally safe Labour seat and typically vote Lib Dem or Greens - they both voted Labour, my brother who is also in a normally safe labour seat (different one to my parents) also typically votes Lib Dem or Green is also voting Labour.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:17 pm
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Some on here maintaining hope, some predicting a large Tory majority. Could it really go either way? I always seem to get my hopes up and then they are dashed to ground and trampled into dust. I’ve voted at last, but don’t feel at all optimistic.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:21 pm
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I am thinking its tight between small tory majority and hung parliament.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:28 pm
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Odds for a Conservative majority starting to creep back up on the betting exchanges:

Conservative Majority 72.46%
No overall majority 26.32%
Labour majority 2.08%


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:29 pm
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I really, really hope it’s tight. I’ve been here so many times before and it’s been complete devastation.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:29 pm
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I'm so knackered that staying up for the exit poll feels like staying up for the results.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:32 pm
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Agreed Molgrips.

No way will I make it past 12.

What's the consensus - exit poll runs or could still be wrong? Unpredictably this time - even in the exit poll?


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:35 pm
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exit poll will be within a couple of %. could still be unclear tho after that.

Regional variations will also be huge - you cannot apply a average swing


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:37 pm
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Exit polls are done at constituency level no?


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:38 pm
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I would laugh so hard

https://twitter.com/SkyeCity_/status/1205227996669497345?s=20

It's a dream too far tho


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:40 pm
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Not sure what weather was like up north but it was utterly dreadful across the South all day. Who knows what effect that'll have had.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:40 pm
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How good a guide are bookies odds though, since they’re a mix of what they think will happen and reacting to what they’re already exposed to.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:40 pm
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James Naughtie is on the R4 coverage which starts at 9.45pm.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:42 pm
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How good a guide are bookies odds though, since they’re a mix of what they think will happen and reacting to what they’re already exposed to.

Bookies odds *only* reflect how much money they think they can make. This includes exposure to bets already placed which in turn includes the actual probability of an event, but it also is priced to attract people to actually place bets.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:43 pm
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Bookies are usually better than polling.


 
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Exit polls are done at constituency level no?

Specific seats that they repoll every year & are weighted to marginals


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:44 pm
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My predictions...

Conservative majority ~25-30 seats
Labour and Lib Dems make gains in London, Labour losses up north
SNP make gains, but not enough to get Ruth Davidson skinny dipping in Loch Ness
Brexit Party get their first MPs (~3ish)
Plaid unchanged, Greens retain Brighton
Labour to take my seat, MK North


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:46 pm
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Just went on Radio Times website to check times of election coverage on the various channels. Took me a moment to realise that the ITV2 offering of a "Nightmare before Christmas" was a film and not an early analytical program.

So I voted on the way to my chainsaw course this morning.As I said to my neighbour who was car sharing with me, we better do it on the way, as we might end up in casualty and not be able to later on!!

I have to say, I was sorely tempted to stop on the way home to see if there had been a change of staff. When they checked for my name on the list, I couldn't help noticing that my nephew, who shares almost the same name as me, and lives at the same address, was on the list too. No problem there. But I know he has chosen to use his vote in Huddersfield where he is studying. It is worrying to think how easy it would have been for me to pop in and grab a second slip. It really is time for electoral reform, not just the way we vote, but the mechanics of it too.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:47 pm
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I get quite surprised and/or confused looks when I explain to people how UK Parliament works…..

"in an utterly incompetent manner" is a fairly simple explanation, no?


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:49 pm
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Bookies have got it wrong last few years.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:50 pm
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Spin?

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1205242626548674563?s=20


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:50 pm
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Just went on Radio Times website to check times of election coverage on the various channels. Took me a moment to realise that the ITV2 offering of a “Nightmare before Christmas” was a film and not an early analytical program.

Brilliant.

Anecdotal evidence here is that I have never seen the polling station so busy.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:51 pm
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Well folks, whatever happens tonight, it's been real. The solidarity on this thread has been a good source of comfort 🙂

Who's watching what? I've got a choice of Election 2019 or Election 2019 Wales.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:54 pm
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For what it's worth, I hear canvassing returns today have given Labour an internal projected vote share of 36.2%. Their number crunchers are saying its now 50/50 between a a hung parliament and a small Tory majority

And that is roughly what Dr Moderate has called, slightly towards Labour / hung.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:55 pm
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That count down to the exit poll!


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:56 pm
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Shit there's a countdown timer on the screen. I can't take it!


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:56 pm
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Horrific.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:57 pm
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I might watch Huw, Naga and Reeta.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 10:58 pm
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Bugger


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:00 pm
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As predicted... pollsters did well.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:00 pm
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Good Christ.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:00 pm
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Crap


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:00 pm
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I think Madame sums it up:

"Putaiiiiiin !!!"


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:01 pm
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Well that's utterly depressing. I'm going to bed.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:01 pm
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F....


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:01 pm
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I think a lot of people are about to find out what neoliberalism really means. It'll still be seismic, tbh.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:02 pm
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Lovely stuff


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:02 pm
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This country is screwed, facilitated by a useless Labour leadership


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:02 pm
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Oh shit!!


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:02 pm
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Lovely stuff

There is not going to be anything lovely at all about the next 5 years. Unless you like watching people struggle.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:02 pm
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Think i'm going to bed hoping that is bollocks.

Wake up tomorrow to the shittest political day of my life!

Countries ****ed.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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Don't think I need to stay up. 🙁


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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I give up.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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am in two minds about watching the results tbh. i would love it if the tories got a damn kicking,but unfortunately i have a horrible feeling they won't 😞 i hope i am wrong though 👍


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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We're ****ed.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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I resign from this country.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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**** me....If those exit polls are anything like right then we're ****ed.
Turkey's really have voted for Christmas.

Unbelievable


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:03 pm
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Please give me some hope that the exit polls are wrong.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:04 pm
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Stop the world, I’m getting off.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:04 pm
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Exit poll says… move to Scotland.


 
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****. The one good thing is that it might lead us back to a centrist Labour Party. But then again, maybe not.

Boris will claim it shows that the country wants him and Brexit. I’d suggest it means the country doesn’t want Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:05 pm
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I wanted scottish independence, but not like this. Sorry ruk but we can't save you from yourselves 🙁


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:05 pm
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We're going to see Ruth Davidson in the nip!


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:06 pm
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Every time I think the world is looking bleak, people seem to choose to make it bleaker.

We are turning into the US and I have no idea why the people seem to want that.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:06 pm
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Happy Christmas, huh


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:06 pm
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Fantastic, Corbyn rightly crushed.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:07 pm
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This country is screwed, facilitated by a useless Labour leadership

Don't pin all this on Corbyn. It's way more complicated than that. I know you're pissed off, but really. This whole thing goes back to Thatcher via Blair. Corbyn was the choice of the party because it wants a leftist agenda. So much led us to where we are now, not just Corbyn.


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:07 pm
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How

Can

People

Be

That

Stupid?


 
Posted : 12/12/2019 11:07 pm
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We share this country with some real dumb ****s


 
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