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Communist! Why don’t you go and live in Russia.
Getting my tickets from the Tories.
And such a common accent rayban.
How very dare she drag herself up by the bootstraps and make a success of her life?
Silly woman, getting above her station......
Also can we have marker put here as a reminder that this campaign was never going to be completely about Brexit.
Cheers.
It’ll be state funded education next. Crazy!
Solidarity brother! 😀
go on then, you give I’ meh”
if ever there was a ringing endorsement of Rayner it’s Rayban sneering at someone who’s achieved more than you ever will.
Communist! Why don’t you go and live in Russia.
You’ll be suggesting free prescriptions and free Hospital parking next.
As if that could ever work in a social democracy…
Cost to the taxpayer of fibre broadband for all by 2030 has been placed at 30bn - somewhere along the line it would then be immediately reprivatised by the Tories at a knock down price, as I don't think the uk population would viciously defend it like the NHS.
So what would happen in the long term is that the taxpayer will have paid for private industry to get access to a full uk fibre network.
if ever there was a ringing endorsement of Rayner it’s Rayban sneering at someone who’s achieved more than you ever will.
LOL - Boris has achieved more than you. Boris is therefore awesome.
The level of stupidity shown by the left at the moment is just mind blowing.
Can we move the election forward to tomorrow? I'm sick of it all already and we've got nearly a month still to go.
JP
'Kinnel anyone who embeds from the fail is pushing web-journo hard.
Cost to the taxpayer of fibre broadband for all by 2030 has been placed at 30bn – somewhere along the line it would then be immediately reprivatised by the Tories at a knock down expense, as I don’t think the uk population would viciously defend it like the NHS.
Well the tax payer (if that's what it is) will have a few more quid to spend into the economy too.
Solution: banish the Tories.
Nationalised broadband? Full fibre connection to every home and business?
A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Every home and business? Only someone with no idea of the difficulty of achieving that in remote rural areas could have put forward such a suggestion.
Can we move the election forward to tomorrow?
I’m the opposite. I think more time is needed for Johnson to be exposed, and his policies to be shown up as just repeating past Conservative promises that they’ve already failed to deliver and have no sound plans to fund or make real at any point in the next five years.
Solution: banish the Tories.
That sounds very anti-democratic - almost as if you are a commie sympathizer. 😛
Purge the enemy!
Every home and business?
There will be an * somewhere in the T&Cs!
Cost to the taxpayer of fibre broadband for all by 2030 has been placed at 30bn – somewhere along the line it would then be immediately reprivatised by the Tories at a knock down expense, as I don’t think the uk population would viciously defend it like the NHS.
So, we shouldn't do things for the benefit of the country because the Tories are ****s?
So, we shouldn’t do things for the benefit of the country because the Tories are ****?
It's about doing things that work that the Tories will find politically hard to undo in the future. Minimum wage increases, improvements to the NHS - telecoms is something that could easily be undone - there are better things to be spending 30bn on.
Angela Rayner is unique as a potential education secretary - she’s the only one to literally have no exam passes in anything - having left school with no GCSEs above grade D.
She’s up their with Abbott on her grasp of numbers and we’re told these people are competent to run the country.
Care to answer the question, rayban?
Angela Rayner is unique as a potential education secretary – she’s the only one to literally have no exam passes in anything – having left school with no GCSEs above grade D.
And yet through sheer hard work and determination she has made a huge success of her life.
I thought the Tories would be spaffing themselves over such an example?
I did.
Angela Rayner is unique as a potential education secretary – she’s the only one to literally have no exam passes in anything – having left school with no GCSEs above grade D.
Yeah but I guess that gives her "common sense" (or commoners sense), after all Gove was right when he said we have had enough of educated experts.
And yet through sheer hard work and determination she has made a huge success of her life.
Was it hard work on her part because she's thick whilst it was laziness on the part of Boris because he's clever and had access to a good education?
Rusty - Chris Boardman is on QT and has used it to push riding bikes and walking instead of using cars, so it’s not all bad.
That and asking yourself how James Cleverley has put himself up as the ultimate masochist. Defending the interest of a bunch of posh, entitled white blokes who will drop him like a hot turd once he’s outlived his usefulness as token brown person
He should look to Sayeeda Warsi as to what they do to you if you’re the wrong colour and you’ve served your useful purpose
Ah, my apologies for overestimating you, rayban.
Another right wing frother too arrogant to engage in debate.
I thought we'd got rid of those last year?
Rusty – Chris Boardman is on QT and has used it to push riding bikes and walking instead of using cars, so it’s not all bad.
Wasn't me. I listen to Any Questions. QT makes me far too angry.
Ah, my apologies for overestimating you, rayban.
Another right wing frother too arrogant to engage in debate.
I thought we’d got rid of those last year?
Typical playbook of a Corbynista, accuse anyone who disagrees with the direction of the labour party of being a right winger.
You should watch that video.
No, that comment was just aimed specifically at you and your proclivity to post smart arsed responses rather than answer questions.
It’s about doing things that work that the Tories will find politically hard to undo in the future.
You mean like build a world class broadband network? Are you worried they’ll dig it up? Even if they privatised it once it was finished, at least we’d still have it here.
You should watch that video.
No one is watching any of the videos you’ve junked up this page with, especially the one with a DM logo in the corner. I’m hoping a mod will delete that one for you.
No, that comment was just aimed specifically at you and your proclivity to post smart arsed responses rather than answer questions.
What can I say, I enjoy highlighting cognitive biases.
You mean like build a world class broadband network? Are you worried they’ll dig it up? Even if they privatised it once it was finished, at least we’d still have it here.
Which private industry would have paid for eventually anyway (perhaps not via fibre, but other technologies such as 5G) - by the time a full fiber network is rolled out by government it may have already been made obsolete anyway.
If we do it, there has to be a way to make sure that even with a Tory government in power - it would be politically difficult to re-privatize the network.
‘Eventually’ is why it needs government intervention.
But why? What difference does getting it by 2030 - versus 2040 really make? How much would that add to our GDP?
All parties have been intervening in government to speed it up… so much money… so many promises from OpenReach, and BT before them, so much dragging of heals. 2040 won’t even happen. Time to stamp on the accelerator.
Don’t pretend to be an idiot.
Don't pretend to know the added value of a quicker roll out? The economic numbers or I call bullshit.
I’m amazed Rayban found the time to post all this stuff tonight given his star turn on QT tonight.
https://twitter.com/borisjohnson_mp/status/1195120565469765632?s=21
I’m amazed Rayban found the time post all this stuff tonight given his star turn on QT tonight.
I would have thought you'd be agreeing with that kid, seeing as you have posted much the same in the past about politicians needing to listen to their constituents and get brexit done.
A while back me and others on here were anti-democratic neoliberal elitists.
To paraphrase a part of the above video, the more you know about a political subject, the less impassioned you are by it.
I would have thought you’d be agreeing with that kid
I see you're still confused at the concept of supporting democracy whilst being anti-brexit. Probably for the other thread though.
Back on topic though, why do you think someone who left school at 16 to look after her child and then worked her way up to the shadow cabinet isn't qualified to be prime minister? I can't think of anyone better quite frankly.
I see you’re still confused at the concept of supporting democracy whilst being anti-brexit. Probably for the other thread though.
Back on topic though, why do you think someone who left school at 16 to look after her child and then worked her way up to the shadow cabinet isn’t qualified to be prime minister? I can’t think of anyone better quite frankly.
Because it requires making decisions about deeply complex world events, that require a level of critical thinking that isn't imparted on people who leave school at 16. Cooper is clearly more qualified for that role, but I'm guessing that she's just not far enough left for your taste?
Trump is poorly educated, look at the brilliant foreign policy decisions he has made. The left are quick to pick up on right-wing leadership being poorly educated, but let it slide when it's their own.
I see you’re still confused at the concept of supporting democracy whilst being anti-brexit. Probably for the other thread though.
Your attitude is little different to that kids then, the only difference is that you say that you are a remainer (which I and others have had their doubts about).
that require a level of critical thinking that isn’t imparted on people who leave school at 16.
Don't hold back on exposing your deep-seated prejudices. I suppose the fact that Angela Rayner grew up in a very troubled environment and still rose to top is immaterial. She's just a bit thick isn't she cos she didn't get straight As in her GCSEs despite having a kid at 16?
Trump is poorly educated, look at the brilliant foreign policy decisions he has made.
Trump inherited millions from his family. Are you seriously trying to compare Angela Rayner to Donald Trump?
So one is thick because he came from a posh background and one is clearly bright and fit to lead because she got to where she was coming from a comprehensive background?
That is a very, very weird cognitive bias/fallacious argument - an argument from authority as long as they are from your own social background.
Rayner grew up in a very troubled environment and still rose to top is immaterial.
Yes it is, it's been shown time and time again that politicians can rise to the top irrespective of ability - for various reasons, including blind luck, appeal to their voters base, cronyism etc.
Why Rayner instead of Cooper? I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not because Rayner is genuinely more qualified for the role than Cooper, it's because Rayner becoming PM would make you feel validated. After all DazH, you have been very sure of your opinions in the past and the character of elitist middle class remainers, what better way to be sure that your world view is the correct one than have someone more like yourself in a position of power? No more feeling humiliated as an undervalued Northerner hey?
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Who is more likely to put Labour in power? And do you seriously think the former is more qualified than the latter?
The 'kid' is making a fundamental mistake about the nature of a representative democracy, that his no doubt hero Churchill could put him straight upon.
The Referendum has no place within it.
But another one is going to be the only way out of this impasse if the Commons ends up as clogged as it was before it dissolved itself, and even then it's a big ask.
Spain has just had its fourth General Election in as many years - we are not 'special'.
Looks like Tories are readying their ground-breaking campaign with ... tax cuts (stealth tax increases).
Same old. Bet on a Tory get a Tory.
Why are people talking about fibre broadband in 10 years time? 6G will be around then and is clearly a much easier thing to offer everyone than putting fibres to every single house.
Spain has just had its fourth General Election in as many years – we are not ‘special’.
It is the failing of a system where one party has to get a majority rather than accept that people want different things and should be representated by many parties working together.
Why should I have to endure a Tory party because 40% of voters wanted one, likewise why should a Tory have to endure a Labour party. We need a combination of both who would by default be more centrist and they would have to work together and come to compromised policies.
Why are people talking about fibre broadband in 10 years time? 6G will be around then and is clearly a much easier thing to offer everyone than putting fibres to every single house.
I expect there will be an evolution of sorts. I don't think you can nail something down such as 6G that isn't quite tangible currently.
Trump is poorly educated, look at the brilliant foreign policy decisions he has made.
No, Trump had the best education money can buy. He's just dumb as a rock.
Looks like Tories are readying their ground-breaking campaign with … tax cuts
Libdems are offering a 1p income tax increase. Should be popular with a lot of people including me.
Why are people talking about fibre broadband in 10 years time? 6G will be around then and is clearly a much easier thing to offer everyone than putting fibres to every single house.
This.
Surely the last few years have proved the most damning indictment imaginable on the whole public school system.
We’re all in this mess as a direct result of the spawn of the most expensive education money can buy
Being able to pepper your statements with Latin doesn’t really make up for driving a countries economy off a cliff, does it?
6G might be around but probably so will gigabit fibre. Probably using the same cables we have now I'd guess. Gigabit fibre is possible now using the same FTTP tech I think. In a decade it could be multi-gigabit.