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I wonder what the balance is betwene the number of people saying 'I woud vote labour if it wasn't for Corbyn being leader' and the number of people saying @I would vote Tory if it wasn't fro Boris'?
While I'm sure its more people on the labour half, I think Boris does put lots of normal, politically ambivalent, people off the tories.
A GE eh 🤷♂️
Time to get rid of the torytards 🤹♂️👊
While I’m sure its more people on the labour half, I think Boris does put lots of normal, politically ambivalent, people off the tories.
I don't think it's as many as it should be or you'd think....
Most of those I'd guess were ambivalent on party are vocal on Brexit ... his lying doesn't even seem to bother them...???
I've bothered to challenge some and most just say "...but it could be true"....
” Look at the state of him….he looks like a tramp”
eh?
In fairness, Laura has been in the wind for a bit
There’s looking scruffy, then there’s looking like a homeless Jimmy Saville...
Ha! Just thought of another rather difficult position lyingblowhard is in...
To set a GE off, he has to approach the Queen and dissolve parliament..
I bet she’s itching to see the lying gonk stand once again and lie to her face...
Imagine it for a moment:
LBH: errr, wobble fubble erm, flud fludding wobble..
HMQ: what are you mumbling about now LBH? Speak up and clearly so I can understand a single word you are saying For Gods Sake!
LBH: dissolve flud, wobble, dribble, fart, flud...
HMQ: I don’t believe you, come back when you can tell the truth ...
LBH: flud, dibble, flib, fubbber, fart...
🤷♂️🤪😡
There’s looking scruffy, then there’s looking like a homeless Jimmy Saville…
" Look what I got off Gumtree mate,bargain"
it’s everybody else’s fault apart from the sainted Jeremy, isn’t it?
Not everyone else's, just those who actively do everything they can to prevent him winning, and sadly there are many in the PLP who are doing just that. Last week a lot of them voted for Boris's deal. I've no doubt they'll vote against having an election when Corbyn directs them to do the opposite. The bottom line is that they prefer Johnson to Corbyn, so they can drop the faux-outrage when they are called out on it.
those who actively do everything they can to prevent him winning, and sadly there are many in the PLP who are doing just that… The bottom line is that they prefer Johnson to Corbyn…
Are you honestly claiming there are lots of Labour MPs that would rather have Johnson as PM than Corbyn? Even Binners doesn’t distrust him that much. What do they know?
Not everyone else’s, just those who actively do everything they can to prevent him winning, and sadly there are many in the PLP who are doing just that. Last week a lot of them voted for Boris’s deal.
Hang on voting for the deal is what Corbyn wanted/needed because he needs Brexit behind us just as Boris does. The reason they could vote for the deal is because he made it clear there would be no career repercussions because he needed then to do it.
I'm not saying COrbyn has won over the PLP at all but on this issue they are helping him not hindering him.
I’ve no doubt they’ll vote against having an election when Corbyn directs them to do the opposite.
It's less clear cut, but probably the same argument applies since the opposition want to delay an election for as long as possible.
Not everyone else’s, just those who actively do everything they can to prevent him winning, and sadly there are many in the PLP who are doing just that.
Fairly standard paranoid, bunker mentality nonsense, I'm afraid
Last week a lot of them voted for Boris’s deal.
Quite a few hardline Corbynites did too. It was that North Eastern caricature Corbynite MP, in a candid comment, who pointed out that if he hadn't have found himself as the accidental leader, then life-long Lexiteers Jeremy and John MacDonnell would have done too, as they have voted against every single other piece of pro-EU legislation in the past, spanning decades
The bottom line is that they prefer Johnson to Corbyn.
Seriously? You genuinely think that most Labour MP's would prefer to see Boris Johnson in number 10 than Corbyn? You actually believe that?
I refer you to the previous comment about paranoid, bunker mentality nonsense
It's like the last US election, the two front runners are the only candidates who could even feasibly lose to someone as unelectable as their opposition.
The Polls will be wrong in the same way they were in 2017, because in theory lots of people will vote for LD, Green, Brex etc, but when it comes to marking the box they know that voting for a party that can't win, gives a vote for the party they least want that can.
If Labour pulled a quick switcharoo and appointed a more pro-EU, Centrist Leader, they'd walk it. Yeah every card carrying Socialist will be wailing about 'Red Tories' and all that bullshit, but they ain't going to vote for Boris, Farage or Swinson in protest because they're even more 'Tory'.
The Tories can't do that, if they go more central they'll lose to Brex party, if they go more right they'll lose to the LD. They're supposed to be the party of business and economics, but they're really crap at that, they're the party of Little Britain.
The LDs will claw back their post-coalition loses, but if we don't get a clear majority (we won't) they who do they work with? Labour? Labour has been sticking the boot into them for months very publicly, they're ideologically opposed to the Tories now and well, they will remember what happened last time.
Labour (well most of them) and the LDs are right, there's not much to gain from a GE at the moment, they should have ended this shit with a VONC by now. I'd guess Labour aren't willing to accept other ideologies dilute the purity of their beliefs to work with the LDs and SNP.
Boris Bench.
Boris Bridge.
Boris Bus.
Boris Brexit.
Boris Blunder.
Boris Balloon.
Slips off the tongue and straight into the papers.
Does Jeremy have an equally alliterative name? No. Instead, all the gardening jibes stick, and he is easily confused with Bernard Cribbins.
It's all really very superficial but the general public are fickle twonks who have but the merest passing of an understanding of any those boring political things and will vote based on who looks like a funny chap whose name they can remember after a short walk into the polling booth.
P-Jay - Nail, head.
Does Jeremy have an equally alliterative name? No. Instead, all the gardening jibes stick, and he is easily confused with Bernard Cribbins.
He'll never be half the man Cribbins is and I'll thank you never to associate them in that way again please.
and he is easily confused with Bernard Cribbins.
It's easy to tell them apart.
One is a comedian who occasionally appears on TV round about teatime to say silly things and tell made up stories and the other one is Bernard Cribbins.
I live in a hardcore Labour constituency. It's been Labour for as long as they've existed, and it will most likely be Labour after an election (though this is the first time I've had any doubt...)
The local Facebook groups are venomous when it comes to Corbyn. As far as they're concerned, he's an antisemitic, terrorist sympathising, Marxist, and that's that.
Regardless of his capability, he's damaged goods when it comes to politics. The media killed him off a long time ago.
For anyone with young kids Bernard Cribbins reading Winnie the Pooh is off the charts good, his Wombles is also good.
For anyone with young kids Bernard Cribbins reading Winnie the Pooh is off the charts good, his Wombles is also good.
Old Jack's Boat is the nuggets too.
I can't believe he's 90, bless 'im.
Cribbins is a legend.
114 Jackanory appearances including ,most memorably for me, the Hobbit.
114 Jackanory appearances and I bet he never once mentioned Bobby Sands.
He did 'Cockneys versus Zombies' too. Maybe not his finest film, but was quite recent.
114 Jackanory appearances and I bet he never once mentioned Bobby Sands.
Well, there was that time when Tufty discovered that Willie Weasel was locked in his mum's shed, smeared in his own shit, refusing to go to the ice cream van.......
Cribbins to lead a Government of National Unity, that's the whole problem sorted, everyone will start being nice to everyone else once he's in charge.
I like to watch the clip of him (Cribbins, not Corbyn) on Buzzcocks, he's so wonderfully self-aware, warm and just stupidly funny.
+1 to the love for Cribbins. Easily the best character in "Jack's Boat".
Will it really be a 2019 GE?
what if the EU offer a 6 month extension? Im not sure that we will sort anything in 3 months, especially with Xmas in the middle
I would just give 8 years and say "come back when you are ready and stop wasting our time"
The A50 time limit also needs to now be set at 10 years rather than 2 just in case any other country is stupid enough to waster their time and money on it.
Lots of poeple, including electoral commision saying 12th December very difficult to acheive for a host of reasons. Nothing is going to get done in parliment till election, so seems to me that shutting up shop asap and election on 5th makes sense.
If its not agreed in 11 days
it will be a GE in Feb
https://twitter.com/alanjrenwick/status/1187633546107740161
Hmm let's see. Live in the south. Have a well paid job. Dislike the sponging poor. Yep will be voting tory or bp depending on if they can sort Brexit.
Oh noez I must be a massive troll for not loving labour..
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scotroutes - that's very naughty
Are you honestly claiming there are lots of Labour MPs that would rather have Johnson as PM than Corbyn?
No I’m saying their actions demonstrate that may be the case. Whether intentional or not that will be the end result. There was a short interlude in the wake of the 2017 election when they admitted they might be wrong, but since then they latched on to brexit as something they could use to beat him with, and now the end result will not only be a Tory PM, but a Tory brexit.
but since then they latched on to brexit as something they could use to beat him with, and now the end result will not only be a Tory PM, but a Tory brexit.
Not everything is a conspiracy to take down Corbyn
It's just possible that they thought brexit, especially the version we were getting was really bad deal
especially the version we were getting was really bad deal
funny how many of them voted for it then.
Paranoid
Bunker
Mentality
What would Bernard do?
He’d probably have made a better job of leader of the opposition than grandad 😉
The sad thing about this is that it is likely to the Brexit election when it should really be about the climate catastrophe.
The sad thing about this is that it is likely to the Brexit election when it should really be about the climate catastrophe.
Hate to break it to you, but the next 2 elections will be about brexit, we got another Dr are of this shitshow to go!!!
The sad thing about this is that it is likely to the Brexit election when it should really be about the climate catastrophe.
This is true.
I’m sure links between those who wanted the referendum, and then campaigned for leave, to groups that either deny climate change is a problem, or know that it is but still want the focus kept on increasing the use of climate damaging fuels, are purely coincidental.
Good article from the Grauniad.
Jonathon Freedland asking the same question most of us outside the common room have been asking for the last two years
The question for labour: why are you sticking with Jeremy Corbyn?
We all know the answer, of course.
Because the People’s Front of Judea will never ditch Reg. but the truth is that the Labour Party under Reg is a political backwater. A failed experiment. A voter-repelling cult that’s about to gift the Tory’s five more years, virtually unopposed to do what the hell they like
But as long as everyone in the common room keeps believing in the socialist utopia that’s just around the corner...
Last two years?
Lets see Freedland coming up to the 2017 election.
2017 variant
Still I am sure Cumming and co will look forward to the useful idiots being more dedicated to attacking anyone vaguely leftwing whilst letting the hard right get away with it. Best shown by the absolute dedication to turning every ****ing thread into an attack on Corbyn.
I look forward to some superb"comrade" or hilarious screenshot in response demonstrating the absolute lack of self awareness from someone dribbling out "common room" and "sixth form" unless I guess its a freudian acknowledgement of their own failings.
Even the Labour Party don't think Corbyn is a winner or they'd be champing at the bit for a GE.
The problem with a General Election would exactly be that it shouldn't be a de facto Referendum.
We arse about tit find ourselves in it again.
It will almost certainly bring us back to where we were.
Then what do you do?
Mind
In the week that Franco has been disinterred it would be well to remember that there are those that carry his coffin and mourn for him.
We need to really think about bringing people with us now.