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I was quite impressed with the lack of bitterness from English fans towards Wales.. quite warming. I think Welsh fans could learn a thing or too.
I was quite overjoyed when England went out, but now I feel a bit like I do when some Royal dies. You dont like what they represent and dont really care beyond the human sympathy but the constant wailing and soul searching from the press makes you wish they'd stayed in the bloody cup after all. Anyway just so you know I was cheering like mad when St Johnny knocked over that drop goal.
I'm sorry I don't agree. In the seasons i played the teams and league I played in (Kent) was mostly builders, painters, and other working class folk. Same with my boys club. You view is of you reading of the Will Carlings if this world (didn't he look a fat greasy mess last night on TV). The Welsh team has plenty of well off the pitch qualified personnel in it.
I've found the same, coming from the southern hemisphere I'd always heard how it was just toffs here playing the sport. But after playing for a couple clubs in east London and one in south London, as well as in the Royal Navy (so a fairly broad view of things), I'd say there were just as many working class as there were middle class, and very few upper class.
Quite different in Scotland though, very few working class players. Farmers don't count as they're f'ing loaded!
Coming from a more Northern perspective, there aren't many - if any - toffs in the crowd at Sale games & ive never met an upper class Newcastle supporter either.
On another note, how come McLean looks good for Italy but was so poor at Sale he was kept out of the squad by a 20yr old? McLean spent the majority of last season providing the half time entertainment!
I think the class difference is pretty real but its more obvious in the rugby fans than the everyday rugby players at a local club. Having said that the tweed coated loud braying **** who pushed in front of me in the queue for my boys post training bacon butty certainly made my class hate hackles rise!
how come McLean looks good for Italy but was so poor at Sale
because he's playing Romania?
McLean looked good in the 6N as well, but he was unbelievably poor in the premiership. Why I've no idea.
In England Rugby is very much a posh boy sport, and in Wales it's working class. That's always going to cause tension.
At senior club level it's mostly "working class" but at school level it is generally only the posher schools that play rugby (at least that is the case in the South West) with the other playing football and nothing else. I'd imagine in Wales almost all schools have rugby as an option??? Then from schools you start to have a few select ("posh") schools which feed regional national/ nation age group sides. It sounds similar in Scotland from other's comments here. So I guess the point of the rambling is it is [i]generally[/i] "posh" kids that grow up with rugby in England (and maybe these go on to be the tweed jackets annoying a_a 😀 )
Cracking atmosphere in Cardiff. Its going to be like an Irish home game I think crowd wise
NZ
and maybe these go on to be the tweed jackets annoying a_a
I should have just said to anagallis junior "that man there is between you and a bacon butty". Those under 6's get very excited about post training carbo loading!!
Loopy Liam ruled out, arse. Tyler Morgan to 13 North back to wing I suppose.
Romania are tenacious buggers aren't they.
In the seasons i played the teams and league I played in (Kent) was mostly builders, painters, and other working class folk.
Of course plenty of working class people do play, but as said it's mostly the posh schools that play it, and your local builders are hardly likely to end up playing for England. I think there will have been very very few public schoolboys with Welsh caps.
Re Welsh schools, I think it's the main sport for most of them. The top rugby schools are state schools afaik, and it's a small country so most people probably know someone who went to one of them, quite possibly with some famous player. Or several.
Ben Kay as studio analyst calls a punch from SOB on Papé. ITV and big screen don't show it.
Who chooses what gets seen? TMO missed it as well.
Nooo!
Ireland second best in all areas apart from the scored board
Agreed, AA.
France look dangerous.
doesnt look good, our celtic brethren have caught the injury bug
Great game, love rugby when I am not a bag of nerves 😆
Dusatoir? Is just brilliant
Whats going on? Has it turned into the grand national, is POC being shot?
Is the body count particularly high this RWC?
Indeed AA
NO having a second sub par game???
Poor POC - looks in a lot of pain.
Rather watch Samoa with ball in hand, although the Bowe break was good deposits what came next...
Is the body count particularly high this RWC?
I'm sure I read somewhere that injury rates are higher but its mainly correlated with much higher ball in play times
Citing for that punch to the guts
How did the TMO miss it?
Yep. Dirty. Likely to be a week off, I'd say.
That's scoreboard and tries AA
You are allowed to use your arms to bash someone's hand off you aren't you?
That's scoreboard and tries AA
Playing much better in the second half, great stuff can they keep it up?
Have they enough players to keep it up? 😐
Are you Wales in disguise?
On second view, SOB rather deliberately fell in to the ball there....Clever cynical work from O'Punchy.
Great stuff. Ireland should make the final now!
Someone give O'Fleashearty a job as a TMO.
Got to say I thought France were looking good and Ireland not, but they have really raised their game this afternoon.
SOB has been ****ing immense. He's certainly made up for missing the next game. Hopefully the citing commissioner will think, "**** it, it was Pape, who cares?" 😀
https://mobile.twitter.com/eatsleeprugby/status/653250059325284352/video/1
What is entry tariff for pubching?
Oh he'll be cited for sure. And he probably should be. I imagine CFH is hammering away at his keyboard emailing the commissioners about all the AB transgressions over the weekend so if he hasn't sent the email yet, he can include his report on SOB.
Pape certainly went down like a sack of [s]spuds[/s] onions.
Not surprised SOB put some power behind that and he's a big ****er! He may miss the rest of the games.
Sack of Shite, that was one for Jamie's back 😀
Great performance and as I said if we win up front we win the game. Margin would have been more if Keet could catch.
Has anyone checked if Pape is ok? Or did he just get back up again after going down so hard? Poor fellow.
You imagine wrong, DD! 🙂
Any word on POC yet? Looked a lot like a season ender for him.
SOB will get a ban, no question. Only question is, how long for?
Just seen the Sexton tackle again. One word...."OOF!". That was some hit.
Didn't realise Payne is out of RWC. I'd say POC is judging by Joe's comments.
Rather looking forward to USA v Japan. Could be a nice close game here!
Has SoB had the need to acquire a suit and some kit kats before? Either way,he won't be available till the final at the earliest.