Good pressure and aggression from Italy
Will 60m fitness tell???
Poor discipline/composure from England so far
What a crock of shite from England.
I think the test of an England performance should be: "does Haskell look like their best player" 🙂
Ford is playing with the 9.5 shirt, just a delay between 9 and Farrell. He not really adding anything and you'd be better off with a second centre 😉 no idea how the backrow can't win a turnover when the ball is unchallenged on the floor- a few times they just needed to pick the damned thing up!
England are at 6's and 7's (ironically) and somehow look better without a set piece or structure which is a minuscule consolation
great try though.
Mr Angry eschewing the half time oranges in favour of arguing with the ref there.
Sloooooow to the breakdown.
Keeps the haters happy though - look on the bright side!
Edit: no this IS crap at the moment, sorry
Haskell is a lucky boy...
Nah, Joseph is a lucky boy 😀
hehehehehehe
🙂
skillz.
bounce couldn't have been better!
Look how useful having a centre is! 🙂
This B team looks quite good . A few nervous old buys after this
Look how useful having a centre is!
Imagine what we could do with two!!!
I wanted to say that wrecker but then Farrell went and bloody scored too the bugger 🙂 but yes, two proper ones would be even better
Gives EJ some interesting choices to make. Time to change the start sheet?!?
At least a good 30 mins or so. 😉
This B team looks quite good . A few nervous old buys after this
I think Itoje took more ball off the floor than the rest of ge team in the entire first half. How the hell has Youngs taken MoM?
Some pretty solid individual performances. I still don't think we'll beat wales, but it could be worse at this stage. Beating this Italy in Rome by that margin is a pretty good result. They ran France close enough.
Agree with THM, the young lads didn't look at all uncomfortable. First half excepted, fairly encouraging.
careful wrecker, that was almost a positive comment...
Get Slade and Manu back, give the likes of George, Itoge, Clifford and Hill more time on the field and I'll be happy. If it means taking a couple of losses on the chin, then fine.
I did find it interesting, following Mako's impact of the bench last week, Marler had a similar impact.
Youngs MOTM??? WTF????
I like this Ugo Monye fella.
more of him and less of Wilko, Woodward and whoever the presenter is...
I think France will be the ones to watch this tournament.. I was quite pleased Wales drew with Ireland as I was expecting Ireland to destroy us..
Then again Wales v england at Twickenham won't be an easy match ffo the Welsh.. But we beat them there last time..
Interesting tournament so far.. Discounting Italy and Scotland it seems anything can happen..
I don't see a GS this year. With Eng, Ire & Fra all rebuilding it could go anywhere.
Ummm, that was shite. The problem with games like this is that Joseph will be seen as the hero when in fact he butchered umpteen chances, that against a better side (no disrespect to excellent Italy) he will just be hammered. Must have been three chances to offload to a guaranteed try in the first half where he kept the ball.
North did the same in the Scotland game, Wales would have been much further ahead if he had offloaded instead of keeping the ball. His run at the end was against a knackered defence.
Seems to be a NH malaise.
Not confident that we will get any traction against Wales, Ireland or France. I'm not knocking Jones, I think these are issues he will have to solve.
In the words of one great man "trundlemuppets"..
North did the same in the Scotland game, Wales would have been much further ahead if he had offloaded instead of keeping the ball.
When was this?
Been out all day,worth watching? (I realise England won)
It was Ok. Some pretty nice tries, not thrilling, but had some action.
Should be watching this demolition of Saracens by Wasps. Scoreline is incredible..
I shall rewind the game and show you the clips, there were a couple of great opps when north had men outside when he went into the tackle without offloading,sorry to upset our worship, but he just aint that great at sharing the opps. Don't worry England are and have been for the last 10 years, even worse. Like I said, lauding Joseph against a beaten side is foolish, as would be giving North too much credit for his try. Let see either of them do that against NZ or Oz.
Should be watching this demolition of Saracens by Wasps. Scoreline is incredible..
HOLY CRAP!!!
Wasps scored the first 3 tries in the first ten minutes, bonus point inside of first 30 minutes. Now up to 64 points and still attacking..
Wish chiefs could have pulled this off. Insane.
Chiefs played poorly yesterday, running into players, not around them. Looked really pedestrian from where I was standing (behind the goal).
Tells you something when Cipriani held up players in the tackle & turned attacking ball over three times.
Who do we think is for the drop? Wuss looking decidedly dodgy.
Wuss have Sale next week, I suspect its going to remain tight between Irish/Wuss/Falcons right to the last day.
Aye, they were not on form yesterday. Still 2nd in the table, but a long way to go.
I'm loving the Premiership at the moment, snatching games from mates with BT, gonna go for it next season I think...
No pleasing some people - StephenJones-itis is alive and well ( "They won't beat the AB's playing like this")
We won. First half not great - second half much better, and the bench all added. 2 from 2, top of the table.
We won. First half not great - second half much better, and the bench all added. 2 from 2, top of the table.
I get you, but essentially we struggled against the easiest opposition. It doesn't bode well does it.
Rhys Webb just sparked himself out in his come back game! Good win for ospreys though.
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Ummm, that was shite. The problem with games like this is that Joseph will be seen as the hero when in fact he butchered umpteen chances, that against a better side (no disrespect to excellent Italy) he will just be hammered. Must have been three chances to offload to a guaranteed try in the first half where he kept the ball.
When were these? I saw a couple of times where he could have passed it out but they were nothing that the cover defence wouldn't have sorted out. And it's better to keep the ball in play than concede a lineout (although maybe not with our breakdown work)
I was fearing the worst at half time but did remember thinking that despite playing absolutely awful we were still in the lead. Second half was as expected really, we unloaded a strong bench against a weakened and tired Italy side and ran away with it, nothing to write home about. We're playing some nice stuff when we get chance but the breakdown is a shambles at the moment, barely getting any clean ball! There was one particular incident where I think Joseph took it in, and nowell and Farrell cleared out over the ball (fair enough) but then the ball was just left open and out! Just stupid play.
Also what happened to our lineout?! Borthwick will be giving them a roasting over that!
When was the last time ANY 6N team put Italy away by half time? It just doesn't happen. We won by 31 pts and haven't conceded a try yet.
nowell and Farrell cleared out over the ball (fair enough) but then the ball was just left open and out!
That would have been the point that MrsW covered wreckerJnrs ears!
Positives - scrum immense, Itoje, George, Marler all added from the bench, we scored 5 tries. None conceded.
Negatives - we didn't play the perfect game of rugby 🙄
So the big question is, are England once again world beaters, after scoring some tries against an Italian defence that did nothing for stereotype?