[Closed] 1080,720 virgin media hdmi cable ??? any techo's out there ??

Didn't notice any difference on my 720 TV with my V+ box

I guess the difference is whether the virgin box downscales the pic to 720 or the TV does.

Stick it on 1080 and see what happens.

try both, see what happens ?

(the telly is probably capable of scaling the picture to fit so either will prob work but quality may differ depending on whether yr virgin box or the telly is better at resizing)

/guess

(bah - too slow 🙄 )

If your TV is 720, then set the box to 720. You will gain no advantage having it set to 1080.

IIRC the majority of the HD signals are actually 720 even if they say 1080. Stick it at 720. Shouldn't notice the difference.

If your TV is 720, then set the box to 720. You will gain no advantage having it set to 1080.

why though ?

 

why though ?

Because it'll still be 720, it may not even display at all or may be all obscure.

Try putting an A4 photo in an A3 picture frame see what happens.

At a guess, the rescaling process from 1080 to 720 will result in some distortion.

so if i have a bluray player and put a bluray disc in am i getting hd veiwing or not ? as it s only a 720 tv

so if i have a bluray player and put a bluray disc in am i getting hd veiwing or not ? as it s only a 720 tv

You'll be getting HD, just at 720 resolution rather than 1080 resolution. You can't expect a TV to display at a higher resolution than it is capable of. On the other hand you'd probably struggle to tell the difference between a 720 and 1080 on 32" TV.

why though ?

Take a half pint glass, and pour a pint into it. How much liquid is in the glass?

if i have a bluray player and put a bluray disc in am i getting hd veiwing or not ? as it s only a 720 tv

You are, but "HD viewing" is a catch-all term that can mean different things. There's different formats, all of which are "HD" for some definition. Eg, just because you've got a 12oz steak rather than a 16oz steak doesn't mean it's not a steak.

By comparison, though your TV is "only" 720 lines, SD is typically 480(*) lines. Additionally, each line is drawn every time the screen refreshes (that's what the 'p' in 720p means) compared to every other line on an SD image. So you're getting a considerable increase in picture data / quality over SD.

As someone else said, at 32" you'd struggle to tell the difference between a 720 and a 1040 image even it could display at that resolution.

Short answer - everything's fine, don't worry about it.

(* - note to techies, this is an intentional simplification)

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this should clear up any misconceptions.

leave the virgin box on 720 if the resolution on your tv is what you describe.

If your TV is 720, then set the box to 720. You will gain no advantage having it set to 1080.

why though ?

because your tv isn't capable of displaying full resolution.
tbh "hd ready" tv's are a gimmic. if you're going to go HD for the sake of a couple of ££ may as well go the whole hog and get a 1080 hd tv.

tbh "hd ready" tv's are a gimmic. if you're going to go HD may as well go the whole hog and get a 1080 hd tv.

I think "HD Ready" is criminally misleading, but I don't think it's a gimmick. Larger screens / closer viewing distances would require higher resolutions; on a 32" TV at "living room" distances, you're not going to be able to see any difference.

Nice image, incidentally - I was looking for something similar and didn't find anything particularly clear.

so why does my tv say its 1366 x 768 pixels ?

what is 1280x720 ?

Because your TV can display a slightly higher resolution image than the 1280x720 used for HD TV. The x768 is a typical PC resolution; presumably the TV will have a 15-pin VGA connection and be able to double up as a PC monitor.

(The screen in the TV might well have originally been designed as a PC monitor, hence the PC-friendly resolution; the TV manufacturer just added "TV" electronics to turn it into a television)

the tv manufacturer just squeezed in some extra pixels.
but to answer your question.
no your tv isn't full hd, its somwhere between hd and sd(pal).
Stick the virgin box onto 720. Sit back and watch some tv rather than ride your bike on this cold wet december morning

Because the TV supports that resolution. However, it will support 1280x720 as well. The difference is tiny; at best you won' be able to tell, at worst you might get a bit of black down the sides or have a bit of the picture missing. You shouldn't notice.

Back when HD first came out, everything was marketed as HD ready, and people's concernes were about 720p vs 1080i, with 1080p priced too high for most. It's only since 1080p has become more affordable and the HD format wars have settled that there was a marketing push for "Full HD" to try and tempt "HD Ready" customers with 720p into buying 1080p.

this is the tv £303 dixons with a hot uk deal and its white

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE32D4010NWXXU

You'll be fine.

no your tv isn't full hd, its somwhere between hd and sd(pal).

Again, this is misleading. It's not "Full HD," correct, if you take Full HD to mean 1080p. But it's not "somewhere between SD and HD" either. 720p [i]is[/i] unequivocally a HD format, by definition.

You need to be very careful of terms like "Full HD," it's a marketing term and can mean whatever the TV manufacturer wants it to mean.

this is the tv £303 dixons with a hot uk deal and its white

You've probably worked this out already, but the colour of the bezel doesn't have any bearing on the resolution or quality of the screen (despite what iPhone owners might have you believe).

720p is unequivocally a HD format, by definition.

Fantastic pun there

I do so love it when people are paying attention. (-: Thank you.

from what I've read, all virgin hd content is broadcast in 1080i. If you use the 720p virgin setting, the virgin box will be descaling it to 720p then the tv upscaling it to 768p. 2 upscaling procedures is not good. set it to 1080i for marginally better quality (not sure to the missing 48 pixels - just to avoid resizing twice).

the UI looks crap in 1080 though

the UI looks crap in 1080 though

most new readers over 40 look crap in 1080 too

all virgin hd content is broadcast in 1080i.

Is it really? Wow, that surprises me.

the tv upscaling it to 768p

Personally, I reckon I'd switch that off and force it back to 720, and just live with the black borders. It'll look like shit otherwise.

Can't hurt to experiment, of course.

I think "HD Ready" is criminally misleading

as is 'tubeless ready' 🙄

this image is also useful

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you really do need to sit quite near a tv to get the full benefits of 1080p - 6' from a 50" tv for instance

edit : linky to view the image 'nicely'

ok so now i really am confused !

if i set to the wrong setting can/will it damage tv ?

720 or 1080 helppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

You won't damage anything. Try it both ways, see which feels best.

It's a bit like sex in that regard. Apart from the damage bit.

My TV can do 720p or 1080i. They look exactly the same to me.

My TV can do 720p or 1080i. They look exactly the same to me.

is the signal comming into the the tv 1080?

The signal from my blu-ray player and Freeview box can be set to either. Having played with the modes, I can't tell any difference!

Setting them to "auto" results in a 1080i signal from the blu-ray and a 720p signal from the freeview.

It's possible that I might see a difference with a newer, bigger TV (mine is 32" and about 5 years old).

so your tv will also run a resolution of 1368x768. ie marginally more than 1280x720 which is '720p'. essentially running a 1080 feed would give you somewhere around 5% extra definition - I wouldn't expect to find that visible.

I have to stand within about 2' of my 50", 1080p plasma to see a very noticable difference between 720p and 1080p. beyond that it just looks marginally sharper, and from seated position (11' away) i can't make out any discernable difference

so your tv will also run a resolution of 1368x768. ie marginally more than 1280x720 which is '720p'. essentially running a 1080 feed would give you somewhere around 5% extra definition - I wouldn't expect to find that visible.

I guess that's it, then. I just set it to auto and don't worry about it. I'm happy enough that HD is usually (but not always) very noticeably better than SD.

edit : linky to view the image 'nicely'

It's alright - my eyes can quite happily resolve the one you posted - which presumably means it's not actually accurate for me?

It's alright - my eyes can quite happily resolve the one you posted - which presumably means it's not actually accurate for me?

on my work browser the image is horribly resized\blocky to fit into the forum width. ymmv 🙂