We’d like to know about your indoor training habits

It won't let you have nothing selected for indoor equipment, even if you've already answered never have, never will.

Also the Submit button seems to randomly move around and require pressing multiple times...

Well the server only crashed twice completing that...

It won't let you have nothing selected for indoor equipment even if you've already said 'never have, never will'.

Also, the submit button seems to jump around, no idea how many times I pressed it before it seemed happy.

This is my 2nd attempt posting something due to the server crashing...

The site also seems to pretend I haven't already posted, then 5 minutes later two posts appear.

Have you thought about hiring a web designer?

I used to ride my unicycle down the corridor - does that count?

If you do not train indoors you cannot complete the survey as one of the questions has no "none" for an answer and thus the form will not complete

Where’s the tried it and hated it option?

Please sort that form out, if you want useful answers!

I filled it in, ignored the "submit" button at the top (below the first question) & hit "submit answers" at the bottom. The page did something & the filled in answers disappeared. No idea if they submitted or not, but it didn't look hopeful.

Tried again, answering the first question & hitting submit, thinking this might then prompt me to answer the more detailed questions below, but then got a 'your vote has been saved' message, but now with nothing below filled in.

WRT to this bit....
and if you’ve got a great tip for getting set up, or making it happen, head to the comments.

Permanent bike & trainer set-up in the garage with fans galore.
Zwift subscription & Xert for the training side of things. Keep it interesting with group-rides/pacer bot sessions on Zwift/meet-ups for workouts which help with motivation.
Plenty of Spotify playlists and podcasts to help with short attention span.

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Edit: Nope.  Now I see it

you can only choose one of the options for the first question.  Not Winter AND when injured.

Only got into it with the advent of zwift (or similar). The virtual reality is needed to keep my interest, making it fun in its own right - otherwise I would never have the attention span or mental drive to spend many hours a week all winter doing something purely on the promise that it will make mtbing better in spring.

Still struggling to break 1hr 20 minutes of Z2 indoors, I consider it mental training as well as physical!

Only when injured would be my option these days.

@jimmy748 It’s not meant to be enjoyable.

I regularly ride indoors, but only because the weather is regularly rubbish. 🙂

I practiced track stands in my shed once, does that count?

Not a chance. I'd rather lose a bit of bike fitness over the winter and gain it again in spring.

The only reason I ride is because I like MTB'ing

Slightly OT, but always makes me wonder why people go to the gym and ONLY use the treadmill - when it's a nice day outside

I needed a "used to, don't any more" option to progress past question 1.

I managed to answer question 1 submitted it and left the rest. It wasn't that complicated a task really 😉

Injured definitely, winter, or before work when time poor and have a need to be finished by an exact time.

Needs a "bought a smart turbo used it about 5 times and it's been gathering dust for the last 2 years" option.

"why people go to the gym and ONLY use the treadmill – when it’s a nice day outside"

I suppose the answer to this one is partly habit, if you are used to going to the gym and find it easier to keep that habit - or you find that the places to you aren't conducive to running like loads of unhelpful dual carriageways etc and you don't have to worry about carrying drinks etc - or if you are doing interval or high effort training and don't have the confidence/skills to do that. Also it's fairly rare it seems to me that people go to the gym and don't use anything other than a treadmill

anyway - back on topic, I don't have space in the house so don't have any kit but I will use the gym bikes during the winter to do intervals to stop my fitness levels completely evaporating, I also run in the winter rather than take a bike out as I'm time crunched usually

Slightly OT, but always makes me wonder why people go to the gym and ONLY use the treadmill – when it’s a nice day outside

If they're female it may be because they simply don't feel safe or comfortable running outside, quite a few people I know feel like this.

@ratherbeintabgo then your doing it wrong.

Slightly OT, but always makes me wonder why people go to the gym and ONLY use the treadmill – when it’s a nice day outside

as has been said - safety..convenience (you may wanna run 5km or feel up for 10km, but if you bail at Xkm, you're still where you started!), pacing (it's much easier to stick to 5min/km on a treadmill etc etc). Personally i hate treadmills, but see the logic.

I love my turbo setup though!

DrP

I'm more easily motivated when I have a big event. Will do more over winter when the rides dont justify the clean up.

I've ditched my smart-trainer/old roadbike/trainerroad for a Renpho smart bike. Virtually silent, takes up less space and quicker to set up (syncing up all the sensors, etc drove me mad before).

Not interested in Zwift, I like watching films/box sets and glancing down to check I'm on the right power every so often.

I use a garmin watch for HRM/recording and the Renpho app to create the workouts.

Oh, and get a BIG fan!

MyWhoosh has been good for me since getting the JetBlack Volt in the Evans offer. Loads of structured interval workouts to go at and ride along with fake scenery and avatars like Zwift. Free, which is nice these days, and works nicely on my ipad. Either that or set a resistance and put some TV on.

I use normal cycling gear, rather than anything ecumenical 

Wheel-on trainer, and a spare wheel/schwalbe marathon on my hardtail. Dug it out again a few weeks back, to try and build some base fitness. Can't do any zone 2 outdoors round here, it's too hilly. Tried zwift for the first time recently, not sure it's for me.

Slightly OT, but always makes me wonder why people go to the gym and ONLY use the treadmill – when it’s a nice day outside

running on a treadmill is easier on your joints and some folk get shin splints running on a hard surface but not from running on a treadmill. 

it could also be that they go to the gym daily and you may only spot them on their running days. 

Slightly OT, but always makes me wonder why people go to the gym and ONLY use the treadmill – when it’s a nice day outside

Habit, able to set a specific pace, for women slightly less chance of men harassing them?, able to mess around with inclines etc?
Being in a pretty flat area I am thinking about spending more time on the treadmill or stepper during winter especially to get some training in for hills. Went to the lake district for week of riding and walking and suffered like hell.
For the op quiz. Outside of a vague reference under "other" doesnt cover go to gym spin classes and so seems to miss both choice of equipment, platform and motivation.
I aint a fan of indoor training but over the winter I find booking into a class regularly if not exactly motivating does make me keep my fitness vaguely up. Although if the local terrain wasnt clay/sand and hence an absolute quagmire trashing both my bike and the trails I would prefer to be riding a mountain bike. As it is the road bike and indoor compete and during the week evenings indoor just wins.

what ours me off is that it’s uncomfortable compared to riding outdoors. that’s not to say i don’t have an indoor trainer, it’s just the gentleman’s numbness that can put  me off.

what ours me off is that it’s uncomfortable compared to riding outdoors

Just switch in your own saddle. I recommend one of these
More seriously switching positions regularly helps. One problem I find indoors is you dont have the constant subtle shifting of weight you have riding properly to avoid saying hi to a tree.

@LAT - usual advice about trying saddles, but I found a rocker plate made a huge difference to my ability to knock out longer inddor rides. I also flipped the stem on my bike a bit so I'm a bit more upright and I have a set of aero bars fitted so I have more choice of positions (and it gives me somewhere to mount the phone so that I'm not dripping sweat all over it 🙂 )

thanks for the tip re the rocker board. i’ve been through many saddles! 

see home made boards with plywood set on tennis balls. though with the price of wood at the moment a purpose made jobbie may be cost effective 

The last question  could also do with an option of "when it gets too hot".

I'm not a huge fan of indoor riding, but they're good midweek workouts, and having done a bit of RGT racing last year I can see the appeal of that. Unfortunately RGT is now RIP, so not sure what I'm gonig to do this winter.

@mogrim a lot of people are moving to indieVelo from Rgt

I am one of those people who actually quite likes indoor training- even before Zwift and even Trainerroad and Sufferfest I would be reasonably happy knocking out intervals from a plan ripped out the back of a magazine.

I quite like the feeling of smashing myself (or more accurately, the feeling afterwards) and this is quite easy to do on a turbo trainer. So, I am usually happy to do intervals on the trainer 2 or 3 times a week and just do a "proper" ride on a Sunday morning.

One thing that also doesn't get mentioned alongside the obvious advantage for time crunched people is also location. I live in Manchester so for me, any bike ride is approximately 35-40mins of essentially commuting through Manchester and then suburbs to get to the country lanes- and then the same for the return journey.

This means that for any post work mid-week ride I am signing myself up to at least 60mins of city commuting (with half of that being in rush-hour) as part of any ride.

I think if I lived somewhere with easier access to country lanes I would maybe use the turbo less but as it is, I can't always be arsed battling through city traffic for 40mins just to get to some nice roads.

I didn’t do the survey as for it’s such a last resort. So no indoor rides last winter. 2 the winter before i think

Completed - there are more STW questionnaires these days.

Is STW then selling the outcome to 3rd parties ? Doesn’t bother me if you are, just intrigued

Multiple selections in the first category would be nice.

Has anyone else substituted 'spring knee' for 'winter knee'? Once it's officially indoor training season I actually ride more frequently and probably harder during the week, cue sore knees not used to the effort!

Am sure traditionally this was a springtime ailment 🙄

I used to, when I worked on a ship and had a long commute. Since I started working within cycling distance of an office I gave it up. I'd rather be outside in the cold rain and mud TBH.

Maybe when I'm older. But then maybe I'll just buy an e-bike and keep going outside....

I went to my first spin class at the Gym last night..

Made me realise i'm not nearly as fit as i thought i was!

I'm going to try and do 1 or 2 a week over the winter, to try and limit the seasonal fitness losses..

The option I needed was, 'Tried once....didn't do it again'. For me, cycling is about being outside.

Another request for tried it, hated it/got bored!

To be honest I only rode on my rollers until I could ride no handed, hop on/off and trackstand on the side frame.  My wife gave it a better attempt and did a few 'sessions'.

I think what killed it for both of us was a few goes on zwift using a wahoo gps and heartrate with a dumb roller resulted in a very sluggish and unresponsive experience on screen.  The cadence would get stuck and no matter how hard you rode you'd be crawling on screen!

Gcn sessions on YouTube are good, I try to do one session a week over the dark months, this fits around my limited outdoor riding and 2/3 gym sessions. I have an older turbo but hate it, I use rollers now which are so much nicer to ride and also help develop smoother riding. I also have my 10 year old do 1/2 sessions a week to fit around his football training, football matches, cycling club training and cx races. Only takes about 45 minutes to get a real sweat up. 

Seems to work well for my boy and myself. 

The way I treat indoor riding is the same as I treat the gym, keep it short and sweet but do it regularly. This way you limit boredom and will reap the benefits which will see you hitting the spring trails without the winter weight and heavy legs. 

I'm certainly in the 'bikes are for outside' camp. Turbo trainers can be really effective ime but for me they're a tool for fine-tuning fitness for something specific, they don't replace riding outdoors. I'd rather be out in the damp and grey for a couple of hours than using a trainer.

I have an old trad trainer, a HRM, an over/under threshold session that get results if I stick at it once a week for 8-12 weeks and a playlist of techno or thrash metal that works. Simple stuff. But I need to be motivated by something in the first place otherwise my regular riding is enough to keep a reasonable form, I'd rather do hill reps or a hilly loop than an interval session and I reckon it's almost as effective overall.