Specialized announces details and pricing of the 2022 Stumpy Evo Alloy sporting a host of adjustable features. The longer, lower, slacker movement sta ...
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I cannot believe how heavy that is! Wow!
Alloy costs carbon money now.
I cant see any weights?
It's on the pinkbike article. 15.5kg in S4.
bloody hell.
I cannot believe how heavy that is! Wow!
Its entirely beleivable to me! Its a massive, long wheelbase trail/enduro-lite type bike with big wheels, big forks, big everything, and its made of Aluminium.
It also, I suspect, suffers from something similar to that of my Aluminium Hightower. The frame design, aesthetic and 'product design' of the bike is based around, and thus optimised for, the carbon manufacture.
If you were making the bike from alloy to begin with, and disregarding carbon, it would be designed differently.
The downtube wall thickness, for instance - I bet its pretty chunky to allow them to carry over the 'swat box' format from the Carbon.
I bet it rides ace in the right circumstances, regardless of what it weights mind.
Says it was nearer 16.5kg with tyres with a thicker carcass, and even then, rocks dented the downtube!
I doesn't surprise me though. I think most people think their bikes are lighter than they really are.
I've got a ragley marley hardtail, 27.5, and even that weighs 14kg with pedals and decent tyres etc. Probably closer to 18 or 19kg when it's covered in mud!
Would you care to ask Spesh if they're bringing the frame-only to the UK?
And what the price (and ideally the weight) are?
I'm not holding my breath.
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I cannot believe how heavy that is! Wow!Its entirely beleivable to me! Its a massive, long wheelbase trail/enduro-lite type bike with big wheels, big forks, big everything, and its made of Aluminium.
It also, I suspect, suffers from something similar to that of my Aluminium Hightower. The frame design, aesthetic and ‘product design’ of the bike is based around, and thus optimised for, the carbon manufacture.
If you were making the bike from alloy to begin with, and disregarding carbon, it would be designed differently.
The downtube wall thickness, for instance – I bet its pretty chunky to allow them to carry over the ‘swat box’ format from the Carbon.
I bet it rides ace in the right circumstances, regardless of what it weights mind.
you'd be totally wrong if the carbon one's anything to go by, the downtube on the EVO carbon is comically thin, it is'nt fit for purpose unless you just ride tame trails all the time! have a look on mtbr/pinkbike and there is plenty of cracked downtubes from rockstrikes! it seems the SWAT (which is a aweseome idea) has really compormised the integrity of the downtube (on the EVO at least), honestly if you get the chance to look at a EVO carbon under the swat box just prepare yourself for a shock lol
and no frame only option on the new EVO alloy in the UK 🙁
The Stumpjumper has changed rather a lot since mine.
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Specialized please bring the frame only option to the UK!
not happening sadly - ive had word from the powers above!!!
tbf they didnt bring the EVO carbon version across only as a frame only option either but had hoped they would for the alloy one 🙁
Its entirely beleivable to me! Its a massive, long wheelbase trail/enduro-lite type bike with big wheels, big forks, big everything, and its made of Aluminium.
It also, I suspect, suffers from something similar to that of my Aluminium Hightower. The frame design, aesthetic and ‘product design’ of the bike is based around, and thus optimised for, the carbon manufacture.
If you were making the bike from alloy to begin with, and disregarding carbon, it would be designed differently.
The downtube wall thickness, for instance – I bet its pretty chunky to allow them to carry over the ‘swat box’ format from the Carbon.
So much this. From what I can figure out, to make the SWAT downtube, you take a hydrofromed tube and cut a hole in it, so the entire downtube is the thickness required for the section around the box, where it is a U rather than O shape. With carbon just that area can be reinforced. In a similar way, that assymetric strut around the shock is going to be beefy in alloy due to the limits to the material.
How does the new Trek compare? I imagine similar.
Carbon has downsides, mainly around the connections. Getting metal pivot hardware in is compicated and adds weight. Benefit goes to the one peice rear triangles like Santacruz and Yeti.
I'd quite like to see the Orange design in carbon, I know their particular setup makes this very very unlikely.
I’d quite like to see the Orange design in carbon, I know their particular setup makes this very very unlikely.
Not much point anyway, they are really light frames as it is.
If only there was a way to get a water bottle and lunchbox in there too.
It’s weight isn’t far off my YT Decoy ebike - the real, measured weight of it, not my optimistic imagining 😉! It’s hugely heavier than the measured weight of my carbon Transition Patrol!
I've been reading all the threads on mtbr / pinkbike as I'm close to buying a stumpy evo and there's a total of one cracked frame on pinkbike and two on the mtbr forum stumpy evo threads - hardly like it's a common failure.
On the frame where theres pictures it looks like an almighty impact the downtube took so I don't think it's fair to say they have a rep for cracking. I do admit I'm buying one so i may have confirmation Bias haha.