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They are doing that near us too but I just dont fancy it. Im not a big fan of sunday roasts out because I have never found anywhere that can do roasts potatoes as good.
I reckon if I can average 250w (about 270w) on the climbs then I should be able to complete the Achterbahn route in about 1hr 50mins! Quite looking forward to it for some bizarre reason!
It will be the. first time we have tried it so be interesting how it comes and the quality etc....
I reckon if I keep with your with average I won't make the end :). But we will see I am looking forward to it but ended up doing more riding today than I thought I would so expect to be in a world of pain at times.
I don't see myself doing that pace, unless I'm pulled by the group. If I drop off the back I'll just do a solo run...i don't want to hold everyone back.
Lets see how it goes, I might surprise myself, I've wanted to do the innsbruck hill for quite a while but never got round to it
That pace will only be 2.8 w/kg as I am a hefty unit so you might be quicker.
@oop north similar I'd not be able to sustain that wattage over that distance 🙂 now 2.8 w/kg that seems more possible, anyway we will see how we go tomorrow, I did ok last week should be fun, probably more so when it's done and on reflection 🙂
Reluctantly opting out this morning as need to get on with my ebay clear out and didn’t get as much done yesterday as I wanted to. If I ride I know I won’t be up to much later. Thanks for the invite.
No trouble, good luck with the ebaying
Choosing a playlist then a non-bike warm up 👍
hmmmm... foolishly I clicked on "update pc" when it popped up.. laptop been stuck on 0% complete for 15 min now... hmm...
this could hinder....
DrP
I’m having a day off as well. Big MTB ride yesterday and my legs are not hill friendly this morning. To be honest they are not even ‘flat friendly’.
I do need to get that route ticked off, be good to hear how it went.
still going!
DrP
Was watching for a bit but your feed was quite patty for me
Thank Dangeourbrain, for arranging good riding with you all tough riding but great fun that, thanks enjoy your Sunday’s
Aye ta for coming. Was a good wakeup, damn that climb was hard work!.
4 seconds of doing the 2nd climb on 30 minutes. That’s annoying. Cheers for organising and waiting for me. Good ride that. Chill for the rest of the day now!
That hurt...really hurt! And that last sharp hill in the town took everything I had to get up it.
Was great guys, legs are now buzzing! Thinking next week I'd like to try 3 sisters, it needs ticking off.
Now a day of DIY ahead...yayy!
Thinking next week I’d like to try 3 sisters, it needs ticking off.
Sounds like a fair plan.
I might do something horrible and go for 4 horsemen for the Bank Holiday weekend. I will not be hammering any of the climbs on that.
Ooo no...that would be too much, that alpe is hard enough as a solo climb.
3 sisters sounds like a plan as that is another thing to tick off for me as well
Dangourbrain cheers for the invite for tomoz. I will def do Thursdays and pos Tuesdays of there is no evening meet-up.
4 Horseman looks an interesting challenge......I might do that Sunday for a challenge over the weekend, Saturday have a light ride, I'd start that a bit earlier seems more suitable as a solo it's the sort of distance and climbing that doesn't map to chasing riders up hill 🙂
Seen the invite Brian for the commute club tomorrow, I'm not sure if I'll make it but have accepted. I'll hopefully see you there.
...but it will be a slow one for me after today 🙂
but it will be a slow one for me after today 🙂
Me too. Was supposed to be a 45-50mi ride with the wife this afternoon, ended up a little over half and very tired legs!
I’d start that a bit earlier seems more suitable as a solo it’s the sort of distance and climbing that doesn’t map to chasing riders up hill 🙂
It'll certainly be an earlier start if I do. It's an odd one in terms of group or solo, it'd work well as a huge sportive type thing I think, so you can find a bunch to sit with for the duration but at a pace you're happy with.
A small group would probably come apart at the first hill (not sure which it is mind, if its a sub 10 min for everyone climb you'd be OK holding together for that I think) so it'll end up being a solo anyhow and getting spat out the back isn't great for morale (mind at least). Solo I think the challenge would be making it over the first climb, especially early on a morning, without deciding I've better things to do on a Sunday!
I can see how it would work well for a huge group as you'd fall into natural groups and your right being at the back is tough on morale.
I've pretty much talked myself into to trying it now, and will working my weeks exercise around it. I am good at self motivation once I've set a goal.
Sorry Dangeourbrain but I'm not going to make it this morning, got to head into work early. Apologies for late notice
I'll definitely but up for a ride tomorrow if ones on.
Sorry Dangeourbrain but I'm not going to make it this morning, got to head into work early. Apologies for late notice
I'll definitely be up for a ride tomorrow if ones on.
Sorry Dangeourbrain but I’m not going to make it this morning, got to head into work early. Apologies for late notice
I’ll definitely be up for a ride tomorrow if ones on.
No trouble at all, (late notice probably not a bad thing otherwise I'd still be asleep with a late alarm today, I'm knackered!)
I can't do tomorrow as I've to be at my office but I'm happy to set one up if others want as I think someone else mentioned Tuesday & Thursday
Good lord that was hard work this morning.
I mentioned Tuesday and Thursday as fits with work/schooling/scheduled training. If Weeksy is putting on a Tuesday evening ride though I will prioritise that.
VO2 max workout at lunchtime today. It might not be too bad...
Well done Brian for going again, work gave me the excuse my legs probably needed 🙂
Dont worry about putting something on for tomorrow, I'll probably do a slowish freeride.
I am happy to put out an invite for Hare and Hounds.
What route would be best? They are all open to us.
I'd say something flatish so the Hounds can use their power and group. There's likely to be less hounds, so to give them a chance they need to group up. Otherwise it's like your last one and just 1-2 of the super climbers who have a chance of bridging.
same with the hare group, splintered almost immediately on the climb so ended up just getting picked off one by one by the 2 really fast hounds who were basically soloing it 😂I’d say something flatish so the Hounds can use their power and group.
Tues evening works for me. Thurs evening already has the TTT, not that you can't do a meetup then but you'd have a few less takers. Weds probably not ideal for those riders either as they'll be wanting to save their legs 😃I mentioned Tuesday and Thursday
What about Richmond UCI course? Flat until the last 2-3 miles and short sharp climbs.
If they catch on the first lap then everyone can regroup and do a lap together if they make it over the hilly section they might make it round the second lap.
For Tuesday evening.
Tues is good, no plans here...
I'd say something like Greater London Flat, Greatest London Flat, Volcano Flat would arugably suit grouping better. Don't want it to be a pure power fest like Richmond flat i guess, but got to try and make both teams work as groups rather than a bunch of individuals.
You know the courses better than anyone weeksy so would go with your suggestion.
Do you want to put the invite out or shall I?
I've got em all in a list so easily accessible for me.
Time ?
Happy with whatever course you like and Tuesday works fine for me.
This would be my suggestion to try stop it disintegrating;
Three groups - Hares (D & C), fast Hares (stronger Cs) and Hounds (B and A)
Don't worry about your category - enter what ever group you feel the most comfortable riding with.
Critical rule - no breakaways. If you're feeling strong enough to breakaway then take long turns on the front to help your group or drop and help anyone needing a wheel to keep up. The objective is for your group to catch the group in front (or stay away) - not just the odd rider
Do you think that would work?
Sent for 18:30 on Tues.
C/D riders in Bumble Bee kit... A/B riders (And Magneto Dog) in whatever kit we all have acceess to, we'll decide on the day.
You guys know better than me on the head start, but i guess 4-5 mins lead over the hour for the hares ? Depends if Phil56 turns up and we all just sit on his wheel of course LOL.
Don’t worry about your category – enter what ever group you feel the most comfortable riding with.
Critical rule – no breakaways. If you’re feeling strong enough to breakaway then take long turns on the front to help your group or drop and help anyone needing a wheel to keep up. The objective is for your group to catch the group in front (or stay away) – not just the odd rider
Do you think that would work?
Mostly, but i think stick with 2 groups, i think logistically getting 3 group in their right kits and name tags is tough. LOL. .... and Magentodog isn't allowed in anything but Hounds because he's too powerful and thinks he's worse than he really is 🙂
I was just thinking of doing another, so this is quite well timed!
After last time I think splitting into further groups based on A, B, C and D cats would be a good shout though.
I agree with the focus being on the group as well, if you can manage a solo breakaway you're probably in the wrong group!
If you guys think we can get everyone organised in that 15 mins window, i have no issues with it at all. That said, i think on a flat course 2 groups will be fine using the 'no breakaway' type rule. It's possible people of course will get dropped from groups, that's fine.. but enforcing a no breakaway means the majority of riders will stay in based upon what we've seen in the past 8 weeks.
I'm fine to experiment with whatever folk think will work - but I think the no breakaway rule is the crucial bit.
but I think the no breakaway rule is the crucial bit.
You'll be the one blowing the hounds apart so you'll be the one we need to enforce the rule with most 😉
I think it was mooman off the front of the hounds last time wasn't it? With a bit of luck I'll manage to turn up in time for this one.
Weeksy. Can you send an invite to a guy called Ron who I should have just started following you and have a STW tag.
Would there be any interest in a 3 day event where the results of day 1 feed into the events of day 2 and so on?
As long as he's not a Ringer and doing 400w for the hares
Nope. First time on Zwift so will prob spend it between breakaways and drop off as they try and get used to group ride dynamics.
Would there be any interest in a 3 day event where the results of day 1 feed into the events of day 2 and so on?
I'd happily ride it if that's what you mean...
Hi Weeksy
Thanks for the invite but unfortunately it’s to early for me and I’m also doing the Zwift time trial on Tuesday.
looking forward to the next invite and hopefully can make that one.
cheers
Would there be any interest in a 3 day event where the results of day 1 feed into the events of day 2 and so on?
I would be interested in getting the wooden spoon.
Sounds like I have to be a hound...
A/B riders (And Magneto Dog)
even though I was a catD 3 weeks ago!!
That will mean the Hares will have a decent chance as I’ll be working like a handicap 😂😂
I'm up for this one.
No doubt I'll be there first caught again...
So without any more input, i guess for tonight we'll go with 2 groups.
Bumble bee kit for the hares... Red and black dennis the menace kit for the hounds ?
The next question is, what sort of a lead to give the hares... how many did you go for last time ? I think maybe 5 mins over this sort of a course ?
I think it was 5 minutes last time, about 10% of a C race lap if I recall
5 minutes sounds good I think. If there are to be no breakaways then if the hares get caught it will be easier to regroup for a group finish.
What time you going for on this one?
Have you set it to meetup view only weeksy?
Have you set it to meetup view only weeksy?
No, but i have now 🙂
I've got a fair bit on today... Work, gotta sort stuff for my solicitor...food shopping as got kids tomorrow... I've accepted and i'll TRY to make it..but feeling like I'm jamming a bit too much in at the mo so if i'm NOT there, someone else will need to offer sausages, OK...
DrP
Have a great ride this evening all, again I wish I could be involved in these but work times don't allow it. All my riding is early doors during the week, London Pretzel this morning, that was a fun course, 56km, nothing too bad!
Was going to attempt 4 Horseman this weekend, but I see I can't do the final leg of the Tour For All on Monday, as I'd hoped will see if that changes. Will do the longer group ride Watopia Pretzel and then another ride to at least make the same distance as Horseman but not the climb 🙂 most likely a Fulgaz Ride. Hopefully join another group ride soon.
London Pretzel looks a decent ride.
Was going to attempt 4 Horseman this weekend
Just realised this weekend [not next] is the bank holiday. That screws my plan for Sunday hills!
4 Horseman would count as Sunday Hills surely it's got a lot of climbing.
There is still one more weekend in May after this one, might do it next weekend instead see how my legs a feeling.
4 Horseman would count as Sunday Hills surely it’s got a lot of climbing
Precisely, I was thinking it'd be perfect for the long weekend, extra day to recover from the inevitable desire for afternoon drinking that route will result in.
Craig has mentioned 3 sisters for this weekend which given its not all about me - obviously it is mostly, but not entirely - seems like a fair plan.
Hmmmm.
If I'm still a hound then the Hares have an even better chance just been out for a swift 40km ride in the sunshine 🙂
Craig has mentioned 3 sisters for this weekend
That was just a personal route tick off that I plan to do, something with some hills but not crazy, I'm thinking four horsemen might be a step too far for me, I struggle on the Alpe at the best of times 😉
I'm not sure how I'm fixed yet for the weekend riding, I'll try join a group ride if I can (if one is planned) and it fits around all the DIY I need to get done, new kitchen incoming and lots to do prior to it's arrival!
Also want to tick off Surrey hills at some point this week.
Also want to tick off Surrey hills at some point this week
That'll certainly come up on Sunday hills in the not too distant future as its another I've not done.
Turns out having only been doing this for a "few" weeks there's quite a lot of routes I've not done.
It’s 82 degrees in my shed. For that reason alone (and my legs are tired from riding way too much outside lately) I’m going to toast your efforts with a cold beer!
Going to have a go at London Pretzel this week tho. Not seen that before.
Going to have a go at London Pretzel this week tho
Most of it is flat with various forward and reverse routes of the usual London courses, with Fox and Box hill coming in the back half of the route, I really enjoyed it and the hills are fairly tame on this one.
I'm in for the hares today. The last time resulted in an FTP increase, and I was struggling to hold Ivan. I'll give it a shot for a better performance this time. Full gas, all in, probably poop myself.
Jeeez if you're a hare we're going to have to fly?!!!!
I'm just getting some food and am already warmed up
Just opted in - was going to ride out in the sun but work put a stop to that.
happy to go in either group - I'm a B, is 'hound' more appropriate?
are we going to try and use Discord?
I'll give it a go Phil. I bet you've missed my dulcet tones.
I have the app but never used it